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    Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Round 2

    I've spent the afternoon compiling five first round mock drafts with a range of different picks. Some are consistent to each draft, but what I was really looking at was what could happen to the Rams in round two depending on who they selected in round one. Obviously, there are definite chain reactions to each selection. I'll post each draft separately, along with a summary of why it works/doesn't work for the Rams in round two.

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    SCENARIO 1: RAMS SELECT AN OT
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    1. Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
    2. St. Louis Rams: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
    3. Kansas City Chiefs: Aaron Curry, SLB, Wake Forest
    4. Seattle Seahawks: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
    5. Cleveland Browns: Brian Orakpo, OLB/DE, Texas
    6. Cincinnati Bengals: B.J. Raji, NT, Boston College.
    7. Oakland Raiders: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech.
    8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
    9. Green Bay Packers: Everette Brown, LB/DE, Florida State.
    10. San Francisco *****: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama Michael
    11. Buffalo Bills: Aaron Maybin, DE, Pennn St.
    12. Denver Broncos: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
    13. Washington Redskins:Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
    14. New Orleans Saints: Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S, Ohio. St.
    15. Houston Texans: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
    16. San Diego Chargers: Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
    17. New York Jets: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
    18. Chicago Bears: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
    19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas St.
    20. Detroit Lions (f/DAL): Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
    21. Philadelphia Eagles: William Beatty, OT, Connecticut
    22. Minnesota Vikings: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
    23. New England Patroits: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia
    24. Atlanta Falcons: Perja Jerry, DT, Ole Miss.
    25. Miami Dolphins: Brian Cushing, LB, USC
    26. Baltimore Ravens: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
    27. Indianapolis Colts: Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
    28. Philadelphia Eagles: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St.
    29. New York Giants: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
    30. Tennessee Titans: D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
    31. Arizona Cardinals: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St.
    32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Max Unger, OL, Oregon
    33. Detroit Lions: Alex Mack, C, California.
    34. New England Patriots: Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan
    35. St. Louis Rams: James Laurinitis, ILB, Ohio St.

    Rams Select: Eugene Monroe, OT, Baylor & James Laurinitis, LB, Ohio State.
    Why It Works: The Rams fill arguably their 2 greatest needs.
    Why It Doesn't: Round 2 selection largely dependent on Detroit addressing their OL twice.

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    SCENARIO 2: RAMS SELECT CURRY / SIX OT'S IN ROUND ONE
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    1. Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
    2. St. Louis Rams: Aaron Curry, SLB, Wake Forest
    3. Kansas City Chiefs: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
    4. Seattle Seahawks: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
    5. Cleveland Browns: Everette Brown, LB/DE, Florida State
    6. Cincinnati Bengals: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
    7. Oakland Raiders: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
    8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss.
    9. Green Bay Packers: Brian Orakpo, OLB/DE, Texas
    10. San Francisco *****: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
    11. Buffalo Bills: Aaron Maybin, DE, Pennn St.
    12. Denver Broncos: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
    13. Washington Redskins: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
    14. New Orleans Saints: Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S, Ohio. St.
    15. Houston Texans: Brian Cushing, LB, USC
    16. San Diego Chargers: Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
    17. New York Jets: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
    18. Chicago Bears: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
    19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas St.
    20. Detroit Lions (f/DAL): Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
    21. Philadelphia Eagles: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St.
    22. Minnesota Vikings: Max Unger, OL, Oregon
    23. New England Patroits: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia
    24. Atlanta Falcons: Perja Jerry, DT, Ole Miss.
    25. Miami Dolphins: Clay Matthews, OLB, USC
    26. Baltimore Ravens: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
    27. Indianapolis Colts: Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
    28. Philadelphia Eagles (f/CAR): William Beatty, OT, Connecticut
    29. New York Giants: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
    30. Tennessee Titans: D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
    31. Arizona Cardinals: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St.
    32. Pittsburgh Steelers:Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
    33. Detroit Lions: James Laurinitis, ILB, Ohio St.
    34. New England Patriots (f/KC): Louis Delmas, FS, Western Michigan
    35. St. Louis Rams: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina

    Rams Select: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest & Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
    Why It Works: The Rams get the best defensive player available to lead the team for the next decade and a great compliment to Donnie Avery.
    Why it Doesn't: No OT's available in Round 2.

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    SCENARIO 3: RAMS SELECT CURRY / 5 OT'S TAKEN IN ROUND 1
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    1. Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
    2. St. Louis Rams: Aaron Curry, SLB, Wake Forest
    3. Kansas City Chiefs: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
    4. Seattle Seahawks: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
    5. Cleveland Browns: Everette Brown, LB/DE, Florida State
    6. Cincinnati Bengals: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
    7. Oakland Raiders: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
    8. Jacksonville Jaguars: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
    9. Green Bay Packers: Brian Orakpo, OLB/DE, Texas
    10. San Francisco *****: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
    11. Buffalo Bills: Aaron Maybin, DE, Pennn St.
    12. Denver Broncos: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
    13. Washington Redskins: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
    14. New Orleans Saints: Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S, Ohio. St.
    15. Houston Texans: Brian Cushing, LB, USC
    16. San Diego Chargers: Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
    17. New York Jets: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
    18. Chicago Bears: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
    19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Perja Jerry, DT, Ole Miss.
    20. Detroit Lions (f/DAL): Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss.
    21. Philadelphia Eagles: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
    22. Minnesota Vikings: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas St.
    23. New England Patroits: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia
    24. Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St.
    25. Miami Dolphins: Clay Matthews, OLB, USC
    26. Baltimore Ravens: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
    27. Indianapolis Colts: Percy Harvin, WR, Ole Miss.
    28. Philadelphia Eagles (f/CAR): Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
    29. New York Giants: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
    30. Tennessee Titans: D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
    31. Arizona Cardinals: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St.
    32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Max Unger, OL, Oregon
    33. Detroit Lions: James Laurinitis, ILB, Ohio St.
    34. New England Patriots (f/KC): Louis Delmas, FS, Western Michigan
    35. St. Louis Rams: William Beatty, OT, Conneticut

    Rams Select: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest & William Beatty, OT, Conneticut
    Why It Works: The Rams fill arguably their two greatest needs with great value at OT in round 2.
    Why It Doesn't: Reliant on both the Jaguars and ***** passing on an OT early, further reliant on Tampa Passing on a QB to reduce the chances that Minnesota takes a lineman.

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    SCENARIO 4: DETROIT SELECTS AN OT / RAMS SELECT CURRY
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    1. Detroit Lions: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
    2. St. Louis Rams: Aaron Curry, SLB, Wake Forest
    3. Kansas City Chiefs: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
    4. Seattle Seahawks: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
    5. Cleveland Browns: Brian Orakpo, OLB/DE, Texas
    6. Cincinnati Bengals: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
    7. Oakland Raiders: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
    8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Andre Smith, OT, ALabama
    9. Green Bay Packers: Everette Brown, LB/DE, Florida State
    10. San Francisco *****: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
    11. Buffalo Bills: Aaron Maybin, DE, Pennn St.
    12. Denver Broncos: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
    13. Washington Redskins: Brian Cushing, LB, USC
    14. New Orleans Saints: Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S, Ohio. St.
    15. Houston Texans: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
    16. San Diego Chargers: Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
    17. New York Jets: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
    18. Chicago Bears: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
    19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Perja Jerry, DT, Ole Miss.
    20. Detroit Lions (f/DAL): Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
    21. Philadelphia Eagles: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
    22. Minnesota Vikings:Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas St.
    23. New England Patroits: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia
    24. Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St.
    25. Miami Dolphins: Clay Matthews, LB, USC
    26. Baltimore Ravens: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
    27. Indianapolis Colts: Percy Harvin, WR, Ole Miss.
    28. Philadelphia Eagles (f/CAR): Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
    29. New York Giants: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
    30. Tennessee Titans: D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
    31. Arizona Cardinals: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St.
    32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Max Unger, OL, Oregon
    33. Detroit Lions: James Laurinitis, ILB, Ohio St.
    34. New England Patriots (f/KC): Louis Delmas, FS, Western Michigan
    35. St. Louis Rams: William Beatty, OT, Conneticut

    Rams Select: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest & William Beatty, OT, Conneticut
    Why It Works: The Rams fill arguably their two greatest needs with great value at OT in round 2.
    Why It Doesn't: Reliant on Cincinnati passing on an OT early, further reliant on Tampa Passing on a QB to reduce the chances that Minnesota takes a lineman.

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    SCENARIO 5: DETROIT SELECTS AN OT / RAMS SELECT AN OT
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    1. Detroit Lions: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
    2. St. Louis Rams: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
    3. Kansas City Chiefs: Aaron Curry, SLB, Wake Forest
    4. Seattle Seahawks: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
    5. Cleveland Browns: Brian Orakpo, OLB/DE, Texas
    6. Cincinnati Bengals: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
    7. Oakland Raiders: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
    8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss.
    9. Green Bay Packers: Everette Brown, LB/DE, Florida State
    10. San Francisco *****: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
    11. Buffalo Bills: Aaron Maybin, DE, Pennn St.
    12. Denver Broncos: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
    13. Washington Redskins: Brian Cushing, LB, USC
    14. New Orleans Saints: Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S, Ohio. St.
    15. Houston Texans: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
    16. San Diego Chargers: Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC
    17. New York Jets: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
    18. Chicago Bears: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
    19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Perja Jerry, DT, Ole Miss.
    20. Detroit Lions (f/DAL): Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
    21. Philadelphia Eagles: William Beatty, OT, Conneticut
    22. Minnesota Vikings: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas St.
    23. New England Patroits: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia
    24. Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St.
    25. Miami Dolphins: Clay Matthews, LB, USC
    26. Baltimore Ravens: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
    27. Indianapolis Colts: Percy Harvin, WR, Ole Miss.
    28. Philadelphia Eagles (f/CAR): Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
    29. New York Giants: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
    30. Tennessee Titans: D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
    31. Arizona Cardinals: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St.
    32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Max Unger, OL, Oregon
    33. Detroit Lions: James Laurinitis, ILB, Ohio St.
    34. New England Patriots (f/KC): Louis Delmas, FS, Western Michigan
    35. St. Louis Rams: Ron Brace, NT, Boston College

    Rams Select: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia & Ron Brace, NT, Boston College
    Why It Works: The Rams address significant needs on both lines.
    Why It Doesn't: No LB/WR's available with significant value.

    Seven Teams Who Can Significantly Impact Who The Rams Choose In Round 2:


    Basically, what I'm thinking is that if the Rams select Curry in round one, there are a number of things that need to happen in order for them to have a shot at Beatty in Round 2.

    #1 & #2: Either or both of Cincinatti & Jacksonville must pass on an O.T. Though improbable, this isn't impossible. Cincinatti could well use B.J. Raji to man the interior line and Jacksonville might fall in love with Crabtree or Maclin.

    #3: In the event that either Cincy or Jacksonville do select an OT, San Francisco becomes the team to watch. If they go with an OT, the chances of the Rams landing Beatty or Britton are drastically reduced. If they select a QB like Sanchez or Stafford, the odds are much better.

    #4: If three OT's are off the board by the time Washington picks, they are certainly in the box seat. They definitely have a need at OT, but could look at DE or OLB as well. If they feel the value of a guy like Cushing is greater than that off Oher/Smith, the Rams are still in the running.

    #5 & #6: There's been a lot of noise coming out of Tampa Bay about QB Josh Freeman. At 19, they value may not fit, but there's a significant dropoff between Freeman and the next best thing at QB. Tampa really doesn't have a starter, but they have needs elsewhere and when there's that much smoke coming out about one player, there's a good chance it's a smokescreen. Meanwhile, Minnesota has significant needs at both QB and OT. QB is probably the more drastic need, so if Freeman's there, my bet is they take him. He'll be a bust wherever he goes.

    #7: After releasing Jon Runyan, Philadelphia could and probably will take an OT with one of their 2 first round picks. They may pass if they like what they see in a guy like Tony Kropog, who can be had in round 2, or if they sign an free agent like Orland Pace.

    Bar-bq's Verdict:

    There has to be a lot that goes 'right' if the Rams take Curry for them to even think about selecting an OT in round 2. With that said, it's not all that unlikely, evidenced in two of the above scenarios.

    Going with an OT certainly allows much more flexibility with what we do in Round 2. We literally could be put in a situation where need meets value for multiple players at multiple positions, meaning we could come away with one of the premier Tackles and a WR like Nicks, a NT like Brace or a MLB like Laurinitis.

    It's food for thought, anyway, Clan. Please deconstruct, tear apart, copy, paste and 'Control Alt Delete' as you please. What do you think?
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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    I voted 3 but the only one I would be unhappy with would be 2

    great work BBQ

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    Quote Originally Posted by ramstiles View Post
    I voted 3 but the only one I would be unhappy with would be 2

    great work BBQ
    Much appreciated.

    I'm voting for two, not because I like it best, but because I think Spagnuolo and Devaney will become infatuated with Curry and there are too many obstacles in our way for the chips to fall the way we want them to.

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    Those all look pretty good. I went with #5 mainly because the scenarios with Beatty going to the Rams in Round 2 are, in my opinion, not likely to present themselves.

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    I voted #2 cos I like it the most! Curry = WIN! Nicks = WIN!

    I would prefer a CB at 2.3 though, but that wasn't an option.

    First there was Weddle... then there was Sean Smith!

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    Like your scenario 1 with the OT in round 1 as much as I want Curry, getting Laurinaitis in round 2 is part compensation for me as long as we have our LT for the next decade in place. I might opt for J. Smith over Monroe just based on the combine results.

    I think your evalaution of teams impacting our round 2 pick overlooks New England. If they go another route in round 1 than LB, then they are certain to pick one just ahead of us in round 2.

    Good stuff, well done and well thought out.

    Go Rams!

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    I vote for anything with Curry. Because i believe that even if six ot's get drafted in round one, Jamon Meredith is a good option in round two for us.

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    Appreciate all of your hard work, Bar-bq; but I am wondering why you don't have a scenario with Jason Smith as a pick of the Rams. Right now I have Curry and Smith in a neck-to-neck race for the number one choice for the Rams, with Smith a little ahead due to the position he plays.
    Let me know if ya'll can come up with Scenario 6 with Smith at No.1 and ....

    WHAT SAY YE?

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    I voted #1 but with a switch to Jason Smith.
    Spags keeps talking power running game. Smith is a much better run blocker than E. Monroe.

    I also liked #5 But no R. Brace Take E. ZIGGY Hood instead. I don't think Rams should pass on better talent just to get a little bigger NT in Brace. Hood is better DT/NT now and in the future than Brace.

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    Great stuff Bar-bq. For my choice I have to go with either #2 or #5. The reason why I can't go with #3 is because I think that Beatty will be gone by the end of the first round. He may slip though, but I don't think it's likely.

    So then, that means we have to weigh the talent options. Either a WR like Hakeem, or an OT like Kropog or Loadholt. Nicks or another receiver talentwise seems much better to me.


    For #5, I like the Monroe-Brace pick. Brace is an aggressive kind of guy, and would definitely help our run stopping, and if we decide to get a MLB in the third or fourth, Brace would also increase the production and playing of the rookie MLB because Braces' presence in the middle is big. Not to mention that Brace would definitely increase the production of ALL of our linemen right now. Carriker would definitely benefit, and Long and Little could too. Our whole linebacking corps would most probably look better in the run stopping game if we had a guy like Brace to "brace" the defensive line and help stop the run.


    Right now I'm not decided on either J. Smith or Monroe as the number one tackle. IMO, they are both very good tackles.


    All in all, great stuff Bar-bq.

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    Nice work, BBQ!

    I'd feel good about any of those to tell you the truth. If it shakes out that way....

    1.....this would supply us with the "safest" first 2 rounds. Monroe, a safe LT prospect, & Laurinaitis, a safe MIKE prospect. Can't complain at all.

    2.....I would be shocked! To have Nicks make it past this year's WR gauntlet (#26-#30) would be amazing. No OT, but who would complain about Curry and Nicks in the 1st 2 picks?

    3.....I'd be happy, but a little surprised. Only 5 OTs in the first is not out of the question, but I'm betting against it.

    4.....same as 3

    5.....I would be pleased the FO refused to pass on Brace to get the next tier OT. Six OTs in the first 21 picks; I bet the Lions would be sweating that scenario.
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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    My guess is that #1 is the most likely. #2, 3 and 4 work for me though.

    #5 can be thrown in the circular file. Michael Crabtree omitted from the top 35 picks?

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    Greetings all! This is my first day on this site and it looks great! I voted for mock # 5 because I am a big proponent of line play. I would like Smith but Monroe has his advocates and Brace could work well in the DT rotation.
    I look forward to spending a lot of time here before the draft and until we kick off this season

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    I think number 1 is the least likely because I do not think the Texans will select Jeremy Maclin after Jacksonville already picked him 7 picks earlier.

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    Re: Five First Round Mock Drafts: Who Can and Will Drastically Affect the Rams In Rou

    I voted for 5 because that seems like the only realistic one to me.

    1) there is now chance in hell that Lauriniatis drops to us in the 2nd beacuse now that the Patriots (not chiefs) are in front of us they would take Laurinaitis in a heartbeat even if they take Sintim in the 1st because they love improving there front 7 all the time and Teddy Burcchi might be in his final season.

    2) From where i see it Nicks will be gone in the 1st. Also if we do draft a WR this high he better be bigger. nicks is under 6-1.

    3) Yea Beatty is really going to get past the Steelers. The Steelers will take Beatty over Unger because Beatty is just better.

    4)Beatty will not be there!

    5) I like Monroe and Brace it would be a pretty good draft.

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