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    Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    Per CBS Sports:
    NFL scouts are stupid people. That's what Texas Tech receiver Michael Crabtree is saying, is confirming, by announcing that he will delay having surgery on his injured foot and contemplate letting scouts watch him run a 40-yard sprint -- on that injured foot -- before the 2009 NFL Draft.

    He's thinking about running because NFL scouts are stupid.

    OK, scouts, you should know if Michael Crabtree will be a star by now.
    They're too stupid to believe what they watched for two years. They're too stupid to trust two years of game film, two years in which Crabtree was the best college receiver since Jerry Rice. Crabtree is the first player to win multiple Biletnikoff Awards, which has gone to the best receiver in the country since 1994. Nobody had won it twice until Crabtree won it in 2007 and 2008, when he was a freshman and sophomore.

    That's not good enough for NFL scouts, most of whom make Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones look like a genius, because they apparently need more. They need more than the 134 passes Crabtree caught as a freshman. They need more than the 97 passes he caught as a sophomore. They need more than the 3,127 yards he gained in those two seasons, more than the 41 touchdowns he scored in 26 career games.

    They need to watch him run 40 yards against nobody.

    On a broken foot.

    NFL scouts are stupid. Sorry, scouts, but you are. Any of you who need to watch Crabtree run 40 yards, just so you can see what your stopwatch says about him, needs to resign immediately, because you're not fit to analyze football talent. You might be smart enough to be the head coach at Tennessee -- apparently any idiot can do that -- but you're not capable of projecting football talent if Michael Crabtree hasn't done enough yet to convince you.

    And that goes both ways, mind you. By now, Michael Crabtree is obviously a future NFL superstar ... or he's obviously not. Either way, he has played in enough big-time college games against big-time college talent for NFL scouts to know, one way or the other, what his future holds.

    Don't tell me about his sophomore status, either. This is a more intellectual conversation than the typical grunting of scouts about stopwatches and 40-yard times, so let's keep the information flowing. Yes, Crabtree played only two seasons at Texas Tech, which is one or two seasons fewer than the average NFL draft pick. But remember, Crabtree played in a spread offense that threw the ball 70 times a game. While that attack exaggerated his numbers, it also exaggerated the amount of tape scouts can study to watch him break off the line of scrimmage and run a route and show his hands and his toughness. Most receivers run 30 or 40 routes a game. For two years, Crabtree ran twice that many. As far as reps go, he might as well be a senior.

    If Crabtree is going to be an NFL bust, fine. Crabtree will be an NFL bust. If the stress fracture in his foot is a career killer, scouts should know. It's a common injury. A doctor can study the X-rays. But scouts who get paid handsomely to watch football should know whatever they need to know about Crabtree right now, regardless of what their stopwatch says next month when he runs 40 yards against air.

    If Crabtree is going to be an NFL superstar, fine. He'll be a superstar. By now, scouts should know that as well. Will it really matter if he runs the 40-yard dash in 4.28 seconds ... or in 4.82 seconds? Will it? It didn't matter when Crabtree was catching 231 passes in two seasons at Texas Tech. It didn't matter when Crabtree was looking, even in an era defined by quarterbacks, like the single best football player in the country.

    You saw the play that beat Texas. That wasn't a college play. That was an NFL superstar play. Crabtree goes 20 yards down the field, gets open, makes a leaping catch, stays in bounds, spins and slips into the end zone. On the final play of the game. With every Texas player on the field -- every person in the stadium -- knowing the ball would come his way.

    A play like that doesn't lie. The stopwatch? It fibs like a 4-year-old.
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    Phillykid413: Doyle, you're the idiot sir, not the NFL scouts. Just because he was fast against college athletes doesn't mean that translates into the NFL. The best example is Mike Williams. All of the jackass sportswriters on this site were saying how great he'd be and he's not even in the league anymore. ... Furthermore, I've heard a lot of the writers saying how great "Beanie" Wells is (and) he ran a 4.59 40 yd dash, which is SLOW for a RB. You people are the idiots, not the NFL scouts.
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    Gregg Doyel: First, it's Doyel. Not Doyle. You idiot. Second, don't come here with that weak Mike Williams garbage. Mike Williams isn't in the NFL because he ate himself out of the league. Once he got paid the only thing he wanted to catch was a filet mignon -- his speed in the 40 had nothing to do with it. Third, you're an idiot. Sorry if I repeated myself. Not sure you're smart enough to catch it the first time.
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    Ask scouts about Adam Archuleta of Arizona State, who ran the 40-yard dash in 4.42 seconds before the 2001 NFL Draft, sprinting his way from an undersized college linebacker into the No. 20 overall pick. He has been a colossal bust.

    Ask scouts about Fabian Washington, the decent Nebraska cornerback who ran the fastest 40-yard dash of the 2005 NFL Combine (4.29 seconds), elevating his stock from third round to first. In four years in the NFL, Washington has six interceptions for his career. As a third-rounder, he'd be a bust. As a first-rounder, he's stolen so much money that it's damn near felonious.

    Ask scouts about Chris Henry, the one from Arizona, who didn't do much in college but ran a blistering 4.33-second 40 before the 2007 draft. He went in the second round, or six rounds too high. And yes, my math is correct. Chris Henry has eighth-round talent in a seven-round draft. He has run for 122 yards in two seasons.

    But scouts hide behind the easiest skirt in professional sports, the 40-yard dash. They use an athlete's time in the 40 to protect themselves, because if Chris Henry runs a 4.33-second 40 and gains only 123 yards in two seasons, clearly it's his fault, not the fault of the idiot scout who decided that Henry, after gaining less than 900 yards in three college seasons at Arizona, was worth a second-round draft pick.

    So Michael Crabtree is considering running that same distance for those same scouts. He would run 40 yards for them next month, and he'll do it on a broken foot. Two years of football ought to mean more than 4.5 seconds of sprinting, but what do I know? Explosive West Virginia running back Steve Slaton's draft stock tumbled last year when his time in the 40 was slower than scouts had expected. He went to the Texans late in Round 3, and then ran for 1,282 yards and caught 50 passes as a rookie. And do you know why he so dramatically outperformed his draft position?

    The same reason Michael Crabtree feels the need to run 40 yards next month. Because NFL scouts are stupid. That's why.
    I really like this article, and completely agree with it. I still feel that Crabtree needs to be the pick. If we pass up on him, and he becomes a superstar, and our pick is a bust it will bring me back to 2006 when we drafted Tye Hill over Antonio Cromartie because Cromartie was injured/injury prone.

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    Re: Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    He's very correct about one thing....that TD against the Longhorns was brilliant. Crabtree has Terrel Owens talent without the headaches. The kid can play.

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    Re: Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan View Post
    He's very correct about one thing....that TD against the Longhorns was brilliant. Crabtree has Terrel Owens talent without the headaches. The kid can play.
    Incredible play, just incredible. Really hoping we grab him.

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    Re: Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    A friend of the family is a scout. What he said about a 40 time is this. "it doesn't take into account an adrenaline rush that some players play the game with." And I personally do feel that Crabtree is such a player. His tape speaks for itself, when you look at him getting the ball, and running away from highly recruited secondary players such as Texas, he has enough speed. Unlike other players who are faster, he doesn't disappear in the redzone.

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    Re: Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    One thing about that play though everyone, that was a freshman filled secondary for UT. The Safety blew it by playing the ball instead of playing the man. He cut in front of the CB and goofed. If the S plays the man, Crabtree doesn't score. Still a great catch, don't get wrong. Major concentration. However, it wasn't like he was blanketed though.

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    Re: Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    40 means nothing case and point


    Larry Fitzgerald's 40 at the combine was 4.63

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    Re: Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    Quote Originally Posted by THOLTFAN81 View Post
    40 means nothing case and point


    Larry Fitzgerald's 40 at the combine was 4.63
    I didn't think he ran it at the combine.

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    Re: Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    Quote Originally Posted by LongBlood View Post
    I didn't think he ran it at the combine.
    it was either at the pittsburgh proday or at the combine

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    Re: Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    Quote Originally Posted by THOLTFAN81 View Post
    it was either at the pittsburgh proday or at the combine
    prob. the pro day, because when the WR's were running at the combine. I remember a graphic showing up of what this yrs pro bowl wr's ran at their combine. It showed Anquan Boldin running a 4.7, Andre Johnson DNP, Larry Fitzgeranld DNP, and a few others.

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    Re: Great Crabtree article...for all interested

    I think the combine and pro days should go the way of 8 track tapes, analog televisions, and Vanilla Ice.

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