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    How we get barron, you never know....

    Here is what i am hoping for.

    Detroit passes on barron at #10. At #13, houston either does one of the following

    a) takes one of the running backs that fell or
    b) trades us the #13 for the #19 and the second pick in the third round, which they could use given that they just traded theirs away to get buchanon. At #19, they get either brown or barnes and pick up the pick.

    If houston cant pass on the running back that could fall to #13, we try to make the same deal with jacksonville at #14.

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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    I haven't seen the guy play, but from what I've read Barron is not all that physical and has lapses (doesn't consistently play hard).

    My understanding is that his high rating is based upon "potential". I dunno, I like those guys up front to be nasty and mean.

    I agree, I trust in (Charlie) Armey and the Air Force (Martz & company).

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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    Jammal Brown has that nomenclature (mean and nasty).
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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    Guys i'm sorry to say this but it is not worth trading up in the draft for someone's potential, and if that were the case then we should take Matt Jones because there is no one in this draft with more potential, and the only thing holding him back is him having to learn a new position, where as Barron has a question of heart.

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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    There's no way Houston passes on Alex Barron. No way.

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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    Zig, I agree. Is is pretty much a cinch that Barron goes to the Texans.

    Now, how much does that increase our odds of finding Jammal Brown at 19? :tough:

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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    Quote Originally Posted by ZigZagRam
    There's no way Houston passes on Alex Barron. No way.
    I agree with you ZZR, but even if they did (which they wouldn't), Carolina would jump on him at 14. However, to tell you truth since we need an RT, I'd take Brown over Barron. Maybe I'm crazy, but on the right side I think Brown is better than Barron.
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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    Its not a question of whether they pass on him to take another player, but whether they think another pick if worth the difference between barron and another one of the tackles. I am not so sure that they wouldnt pass on him if one of the three runners fell. Can you see them passing on ronnie brown or cedrik benson?

    I hear the argument that brown in a pure right tackle, and its a very worthwhile point, especially considering what it would take to trade up to get barron, if its doable at all.

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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    Quote Originally Posted by GC
    Can you see them passing on ronnie brown or cedrik benson?
    You could hear the Houston moans and groans from here if they did. But they would probably have to...they have a 1000+ yards guy in D. Davis. I don't know what they would do with another RB, even one of the big 3.
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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    I agree with you ZZR, but even if they did (which they wouldn't), Carolina would jump on him at 14. However, to tell you truth since we need an RT, I'd take Brown over Barron. Maybe I'm crazy, but on the right side I think Brown is better than Barron.
    It's true, we do need a RT, but I'd rather have Barron in case Pace goes down. I don't know how Brown would do on the left, but I think Barron could handle it.

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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    Quote Originally Posted by ZigZagRam
    It's true, we do need a RT, but I'd rather have Barron in case Pace goes down. I don't know how Brown would do on the left, but I think Barron could handle it.
    No argument from that aspect. I believe most would agree that Barron has much more potential on the left side than Brown.
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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison
    You could hear the Houston moans and groans from here if they did. But they would probably have to...they have a 1000+ yards guy in D. Davis. I don't know what they would do with another RB, even one of the big 3.
    I wouldn't be surprised to see the Texans take a RB if one of the big three fell, because while Davis has been productive, he's a bit undersized in terms of height and hasn't been able to stay healthy. The Texans would like to get an insurance policy in case Davis hits the sidelines, and if they can get one of the top runners in the draft, they just might.
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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    From all of the reading i've donethis week it looks like the Rams will be looking for a S in round 1. Look for them to go for a CB as well in round 2. I really don't see them taking a OT early, because they will most likely be sitting on the pine this year while learning the O. Why would you waste a #1 pick on a guy who will not make an impact this year. Of course stranger this have happened.
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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    I think there is a good chance the 3 - B's could start in 2005 or at least get into the rotation. As much as I want one of top 3 tackles in round one, I would not be disappointed if we took the top FS available. My preference would be to draft for need in the 1st round. But, we all know there is the chance that we'll go for the "best player available" at #19. If so, who knows, it may just be somebody we will get excited about (i.e. Jackson in 2004).

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    Re: How we get barron, you never know....

    Quote Originally Posted by Viper
    I think there is a good chance the 3 - B's could start in 2005 or at least get into the rotation.
    Armey agrees with you.
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