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    I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    What's worse than trying to gauge a player's potential based upon a 40 time?

    Answer: trying to gauge a player's potential based upon an INVALID 40 time.

    How many players, particularly at the WR position, have "improved" their 40 time from the Combine to their Pro Day workout by .05 or more? Kendall Wright, Reuben Randle, Mohamed Sanu, Nick Toon...

    Did they all get faster? I doubt it.

    Clearly, there is a home-field advantage involved here.

    Run on the right surface... deduct .03 seconds.
    Make sure the wind is at your back... deduct .03 seconds.
    Set up the timekeeping system in a favorable manner... deduct .04 seconds.
    Make sure you have "observers" with Twitter accounts posting "reports" of the 40 time... deduct .15 seconds!

    The only way to have a useful measure of 40 times is to have the prospects all run in one place, on one day, on the same surface, and with the same timekeepers.

    Hey... we already have a system for that! Its called the Combine!

    If NFL teams want useful information, they need to make it clear to the players (or, more importantly, the agents) that they aren't buying these Pro Day 40 times.

    If the teams could persuade players to either run at the Combine or (for those who sit out due to injuries) at a "make-up session" in Indianapolis in the weeks before the draft, they would have data that could at least be measured on an "apple to apple" basis.

    As it is, the whole thing is a farce.

    Maybe we should just rely on the game films.
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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    and of course everyone knows that straight-lining running at full sprint for 40 yards and 40 yards only without pads or defenders or the need to look over your shoulder for the ball in ideal conditions is the sole way to determine if a player is fast enough to get downfield...

    I hate 40 times. They have some usefulness for WRs...some. Why on earth do tackles and guards run them? I agree, it's all a farce. Use game films, when the guys are actually playing the game with pads and defenders.
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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    Quote Originally Posted by AV
    Maybe we should just rely on the game films.
    That's just crazy! How can you seriously recommend that?!?!

    Everyone knows that a WR who runs a 4.41 or lower will be All-Pro, but 4.42 or higher will never start an NFL game. It's common knowledge!
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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    University of Colorado WR Don Dahill reprortedly ran a 40 yard dash in 3.84 seconds. It was later revealed that he ran his 40 at the University Annex in Aspen down the black slope of Mount Sheetdatsteep. Scouts have adjusted the time accordingly, and now view Dahill as a Day 1-3 prospect.
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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    University of Colorado WR Don Dahill reprortedly ran a 40 yard dash in 3.84 seconds. It was later revealed that he ran his 40 at the University Annex in Aspen down the black slope of Mount Sheetdatsteep. Scouts have adjusted the time accordingly, and now view Dahill as a Day 1-3 prospect.
    It took me a couple reads to actually see the names, that is hilarious.

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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    University of Colorado WR Don Dahill reprortedly ran a 40 yard dash in 3.84 seconds. It was later revealed that he ran his 40 at the University Annex in Aspen down the black slope of Mount Sheetdatsteep. Scouts have adjusted the time accordingly, and now view Dahill as a Day 1-3 prospect.
    Do not be surprised if an argument breaks out on whether Dahill is worth our #39 pick.
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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Do not be surprised if an argument breaks out on whether Dahill is worth our #39 pick.
    Well the truth of the matter is that Sheetdatsteep is actually a very poor track and probably slowed him down. Just imagine what he could do on turf. Not to mention his physical skills are off the charts. With our needs at WR we can't sit around and hope he dropes, #39 is a logical choice, if not 33.

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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Do not be surprised if an argument breaks out on whether Dahill is worth our #39 pick.
    I hear he was caught numerous times on campus writing his name in the snow. Is this the kind of guy we want to take a risk on that early? What if he tries it in a game?

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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    Quote Originally Posted by DE_Ramfan View Post
    I hear he was caught numerous times on campus writing his name in the snow. Is this the kind of guy we want to take a risk on that early? What if he tries it in a game?
    No snow in the dome, problem solved. I feel like you are focusing too much on minor character flaws that arent actually red flag for bad character because of some personal vendetta

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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    Quote Originally Posted by berg8309 View Post
    No snow in the dome, problem solved. I feel like you are focusing too much on minor character flaws that arent actually red flag for bad character because of some personal vendetta
    I'm just saying the Rams cannot afford to use a high pick on someone who will wet himself a little every time he sees a snow cone in the stands. Besides, did you see the photo? His "hand" writing is awful and shaky. We don't need a receiver with questionable hands. And despite his blistering downhill, er 40, time he was run down by an overweight campus security officer.

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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    And what about that whole domestic violins issue?

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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    And what about that whole domestic violins issue?
    I just don't see how buying american made violins is a character flaw on the part of Dahill. Yes, european or russian made violins offer a slightly better sound that may help keep locker room unity, but I also think his teammates will appreciate the way he is supporting american jobs and the economy by buying his violins domestically instead of abroad. I just see this as a non-issue.

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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    So he won't buy things from abroad? Sexist pig.


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    Re: I officially hate the Pro Day workouts system!

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    University of Colorado WR Don Dahill reprortedly ran a 40 yard dash in 3.84 seconds. It was later revealed that he ran his 40 at the University Annex in Aspen down the black slope of Mount Sheetdatsteep. Scouts have adjusted the time accordingly, and now view Dahill as a Day 1-3 prospect.
    Is it to late to change my #6 selection on the insider mock draft? I know Dahill might have worse character issues then Jenoris Jenkins and Cliff Harris combined, but you can't pass up on an american supporting violinist with such great speed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DE_Ramfan View Post
    I hear he was caught numerous times on campus writing his name in the snow. Is this the kind of guy we want to take a risk on that early? What if he tries it in a game?
    OMG! I'm so sick of this 4 Pillars crap. I'm tired of choir boy goody-2-shoes. I want a nasty, mean, slobbering goat-raper. If we only had more goat rapers on this team, we'd win the division.
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