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    If Julio Jones and AJ Green are gone at 14, would any of you object to this draft?

    Assume both AJ Green and Julio Jones are gone at 14.

    Looking to get Cameron Jordan, who may still be on board at 14, or Ryan Kerrigan, New England offers their first (28th overall) and Carolina's second (33rd). After the trades, St. Louis approaches the draft like this...

    28. Jonathan Baldwin
    WR
    Pitt


    33. Stephen Paea
    DT
    Oregon State


    47. Rodney Hudson
    G/C
    Florida State


    78. Ahmad Black
    SS/CB
    Florida

    111. Deunta Williams
    FS
    North Carolina


    156. Jeremy Beal
    DE/OLB
    Oklahoma


    175. Jamie Harper
    RB
    Clemson

    204. Eddie Jones
    DE
    Texas


    Thoughts?


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    Re: If Julio Jones and AJ Green are gone at 14, would any of you object to this draft

    Baldwin has some pretty big character issues for a #14, it would without a doubt be a reach. Devaney said they will not reach for a position, they will take BPA, I assume when he says this he is really saying "If Julio or Green are gone we won't take a reciever we will try to trade back".

    Paea is a good player that fits Spags style, but he has been injured, and he would have to check out big time for me to invest our 2nd.

    Hudsons a great pick

    Black was unimpressive at the combine, and since your taking another DB in the next round I would take one or the other, we have to many other needs to roll the dice that way.

    Beal is listed by a lot of scouts as someone who will go undrafted because he isn't a good enough pass rusher to play end, and is not athletic enough to drop into coverage.

    All and all, I like Paea and Hudson, but I think if you take into account that I feel it is unlikely Devaney and Spags draft Baldwin in the first it changes the whole perspective.

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    Re: If Julio Jones and AJ Green are gone at 14, would any of you object to this draft

    If, If, If....Baldwin passes the 4 pillars test with DeSpags, then I'm cool with what you've laid out. If not, then maybe Torrey Smith takes the place of Baldwin, OR pick up a BPA at #28, then Hankerson at #47 (rolling the dice on availability there though).
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    Re: If Julio Jones and AJ Green are gone at 14, would any of you object to this draft

    Assuming your trade, here's my response...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry S. Truman View Post
    28. Jonathan Baldwin
    WR
    I'd rather have Leonard Hankerson.

    33. Stephen Paea
    DT
    I would be very happy with that pick.

    47. Rodney Hudson
    G/C
    Not a fan. He's too light. Probably will only succeed in a zone blocking scheme.

    78. Ahmad Black
    SS/CB
    Too short (5'9) and slow (4.76)

    111. Deunta Williams
    FS
    Not sure he lasts this long, but this would be a good pick at this spot.

    156. Jeremy Beal
    DE/OLB
    I was high on him before the Senior Bowl and Combine. I now have my doubts.

    175. Jamie Harper
    RB
    Clemson
    I think RB needs to be addressed earlier, but this is decent pick at this spot.
    204. Eddie Jones
    DE
    Texas
    No strong thoughts there.

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    Re: If Julio Jones and AJ Green are gone at 14, would any of you object to this draft

    78. Ahmad Black
    SS/CB Too short (5'9) and slow (4.76)

    Thats why we let London Flecther gooo. The guy was way too short and slow....

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    Re: If Julio Jones and AJ Green are gone at 14, would any of you object to this draft

    I have no interest in Baldwin, but the second round combo of Paea/Hudson would be intriguing. Not really interested in Black, but if Williams lasts until the fourth round, he'd be good value IMO. I'm also not big on Beal as a full time 4-3 DE.

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    Re: If Julio Jones and AJ Green are gone at 14, would any of you object to this draft

    I would rather take Pouncey or Watkins. Maybe even Cannon. Hudson doesn't fit our scheme.

    And like Avenger, I'd rather have Hankerson.

    Beal isn't the best value there.

    The rest of the draft is pretty good.

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    Re: If Julio Jones and AJ Green are gone at 14, would any of you object to this draft

    We let fletcher go because he wanted top dollar and lovie smith convinced martz and the powers that be that Jaime Duncan, the human airconditioner who whiffed more often than steve balboni and rich coady combined, could be better in pass protection and a reasonable facsimile against the run for about half of the cap money (at a time when we were strapped because of faulk, bruce, warner, holt and pace). Small and slow were not the reasons we let fletcher go, although with hindsight being 20-20, the decision was obviously an epic debacle. Truly a travesty of a sham of a mockery.

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