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    Re: If Pat Shurmur decides to run the WCO will it effect our draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by shower beers View Post
    I'd like to know your reasoning as to why none of the OTs in this year's draft are worthy of the second pick.
    I'd be interested in this as well, seeing as how his first words to start this thread were, "Honestly i want Eugene Monroe."


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    Re: If Pat Shurmur decides to run the WCO will it effect our draft?

    Have you seen the Eagles WRs, they aren't the typical west coast style WRs, but they still get it done. DeSean Jackson is much smaller than Avery, but still had an outstanding rookie year. Kevin Curtis also isn't that big. If you compare our current starters Holt, Avery comapred to Jackson and Curtis. We are nearly identical in size and ability the difference is Curtis is faster than Holt. Drew Bennet could play in a Hank Basket role and Burton could be a Reggie Brown/ Jason Avant guy. I think we are pretty good at WR even in the WCO

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    Re: If Pat Shurmur decides to run the WCO will it effect our draft?

    Once he tightens up his routes & learns to get off the LOS unimpeded, I don't see why Avery couldn't rack major YAC.

    Wasn't his three cone drill jukiness considered a major plus?

    I see him being more consistently productive catching the ball underneath which is a lot farther downfield than slower WRs & in the flat & making someone miss than fighting a DB & safety for a long bomb a la Fitz or Moss.

    Mixed with SJ's power, sounds like a winning combo of jabs & body blows to me.Keeps the chains moving which helps the D keep it close which, in turn, makes the 4th quarter haymaker to Avery a game changer instead of a consolation prize.

    Working the underneath & middle of the field as well as stretching the field horizontally with dunks, rollouts,sweeps,screens,etc is v. WCO & I think a good way to help MB and the o-line.

    I think Limpehan wanted to do it & when he had the players healthy enough to pull it off, it worked to a degree. Add Avery's speed & it really could be as much a part of our turn around as any new players.

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    Re: If Pat Shurmur decides to run the WCO will it effect our draft?

    Hey djdeeznutz,
    If you have read any of my posts so far, i am in favor of drafting Aaron Curry not Andre Smith.
    Then we can get an OT in round two, and a WR in the third of fourth, maybe someone like Ramses Barden.
    Crabtree will set this team back another couple of years.
    Are you forgetting about the development of not only Avery and Burton, but Stanley? They are all perfect for the WCO, because they can get YAC and at the same time get down the field.
    Look at what DeSean Jackson did last year, and Avery has 20 lbs on him.
    We have to draft for needs, not to make you happy by taking the big name player.
    Yes, we need another playmaker. But not with the second overall pick on a team with so many needs, were not the lions man.

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    Re: If Pat Shurmur decides to run the WCO will it effect our draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by shower beers View Post
    If Bulger (or any QB for that matter) got a full 10 seconds protection from drafting Andre Smith, there would be a full scale war to get him with the first pick. 10 seconds is an amazing amount of time, and I'll concede that you didn't mean that when you wrote it.

    I'd like to know your reasoning as to why none of the OTs in this year's draft are worthy of the second pick.
    I was trying to prove a point. I did not mean 10 seconds i exzajerated(spell check) it.

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    Re: If Pat Shurmur decides to run the WCO will it effect our draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbell15 View Post
    If you have read any of my posts so far, i am in favor of drafting Aaron Curry not Andre Smith.
    Well sorry i did not read all your post?!?!

    But i dont think we will take Aaron Curry.

    According to history LBs are typically not taken in the 1st 3 picks. And new defensive head coaches go offence often and early (if u read my posts u will know the examples)

    Im not saying Curry is bad for the Rams cuz Curry, Chris Long, Carricker would make a great trio for 10-15 yrs but there is no way he is better than crabtree.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbell15 View Post
    Then we can get an OT in round two, and a WR in the third of fourth, maybe someone like Ramses Barden.
    Well if we take Crabtree we can also take an OT in the 2nd round and a MLB in the 3rd or 4th like Scott McKillop.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbell15 View Post
    Crabtree will set this team back another couple of years.
    Are you forgetting about the development of not only Avery and Burton, but Stanley? They are all perfect for the WCO, because they can get YAC and at the same time get down the field.
    Well Derek Stanly is destined to be a KR/PR specialist. I dont really expect him to be a starting WR.

    How am I forgeting the development of Avery or Burton?

    I said cop Holt which basically means drop him. So Burton is still going to be the slot guy, Avery is still going to be the #2 guy and Bennet will still be the guy on IR or #4.

    How would Avery and Burton be perfect for the WCO. They have the speed to get away from tacklers but dont power there way thru or spin on them. SO they would only be average or good in the WCO.

    Crabtree is a RB after he gets the ball he uses his blocks so well, he powers thru people (Texas Tech beat Texas cuz of Crabtree), spin off them, stiff arm and just has good vision when it comes to the YAC. So he would be the perfect guy for the WCO.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbell15 View Post
    Look at what DeSean Jackson did last year, and Avery has 20 lbs on him.
    We have to draft for needs, not to make you happy by taking the big name player.
    yes we do need to draft for needs. What we need is more paper. The way we get that is take the best guy in the draft, show how much of a competitor he is on the field be the next great WR and sell his jerseys and bobble heads. (im in college for Marketing lol)

    DeSean Jackson was good. But he could have been a whole lot better. Take a look at that one play weeek one vs. us. Tye hill missed the ball and Jackson got. Tye hill had turn around and takle jackson. and he did it. Crabtree will break tackles that Avery cannot. Avery could juke and runn away and thats about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbell15 View Post
    Yes, we need another playmaker. But not with the second overall pick on a team with so many needs, were not the lions man.
    If we drop Holt we will have a need at WR. I know you want Aaron Curry but honestly it think spags and Fajole can make starters out of David Vabora and Chris Chamberlain. We also have all of our draft picks so we can address MLB in the middle.

    This year's draft does not have great OT like Jake Long or Ryan Clady. But they have depth in OTs. What god decides to give us a gift and Ebon Britton falls to us at #35? If he does not fall then we can take William Beatty he is also a good OT.



    Honestly im split on who we should take #2 Crabtree or Monroe but im just making the case for Crabtree cuz the WCO needs a guy like Crabtree.

    Lets take a look at the Eagles running the WCO. They never made it to the superbowl until they got that great WR in Terrel Owens. ANd now they still cannot make it.

    I rather win a SB then making it far then going home

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