If we Draft Greenway we HAVE TO GET HODGE

[RamsFan16]

Do you really believe that a 40 time says how fats a player is?

Ya I do. And if you don't its your problem.

Also, without wearing pads or anything to hinder their overall speed. I dont like the 40. I dont even pay attention to it unless it's a WR.

So you'd rather have a player who ran a 4.7 with pads then a player who ran a 4.5 w/e pads?

Ryans is probably right up there with Hawk in terms of shedding blocks. He does not get held up and he is around the ball on every play.

And your saying Greenway isn't?

Many teams actually began focusing their tackles on Ryans. it was amazing seeing Ryans get hit by a TE, shed that block. Then get hit by a RT, shed that block. Then get chipped by a RB, and still pound the QB.

Ya right. You show me a video of that and I'll believe you.

Roach is a guy that I like that can be picked up later in the draft. I'd say somewhere in the 4th or 5th round. He's great in run support and decent in coverage. Although you wont hear much about him, he was a force in the middle for Alabama.

And Hodge is a bigger force. So don't say he is better than Hodge.

[RamJackson39]

So you'd rather have a player who ran a 4.7 with pads then a player who ran a 4.5 w/e pads?

Yes.

And your saying Greenway isn't?

Greenway gets held up in traffic. If he doesnt make the tackle, he's not near the play.

Ya right. You show me a video of that and I'll believe you.

They'll most likely show a few during the draft. I dont really collect videos of Ryans since I've watched ever game that he has played.

And Hodge is a bigger force. So don't say he is better than Hodge

Reading is fundamental. I never said he was. If we get Hodge, I wont complain. Roach is monster against the run who can be selected later on in the draft though. He's a great tackler and will be a solid MLB for many years.

The thing with Ryans is this, Ryans is a monster on special teams. This is what I love about him. The guy just wants to play football. Anytime he gets a chance to be on the field, he takes it. He has a lot of heart and is a guy that I would love to see in a Ram's jersey.

[RamsFan16]

Your basing your info on Ryans off one season. I'm basing it off careers.

Ryans
Year G T TFL Sacks Int. FC/FR PBU QBP
2002 13 27 1-1 0-0 0-0 0-1 0 2
2003 13 126 8.5-26 1.5-11 0-0 1-1 0 3
2004 12 78 7-12 0-0 0-0 2-1 2 2
2005 10 63 9.0-45 3.5-31 1-7 4-1 2 2
Totals 45 294 25.5-84 5-42 1-7 7-6 4 9

Greenway
Fresh 15 tackles
Soph 132 tackles, 13 for loss, 2 sacks
Junior 113 tackles, 8 for loss, 5 sacks
Senior 147 tackles, 10 for loss, 2 sacks
Total 407 Tackles 31 for loss, 9 sacks

Greenway is definetly better.

[Nick]

Greenway is definetly better.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but to base this conclusion off of college career stats isn't a very solid argument.

[RamsFan16]

Thats fine but has Ryans never had Roth, Hodge, Sanders, Babinoex, Kampman that have been on his team? With all those Greenway still managed to get stats like that.

[Nick]

Thats fine but has Ryans never had Roth, Hodge, Sanders, Babinoex, Kampman that have been on his team? With all those Greenway still managed to get stats like that.

Good for him. But if stats were an indication of the best players, then Jason White would have been a top quarterback in his class.

[RamJackson39]

Thats fine but has Ryans never had Roth, Hodge, Sanders, Babinoex, Kampman that have been on his team? With all those Greenway still managed to get stats like that.

You can say that this works in Greenway's favor. Teams were forced to focus on those other LB's. Would this or would this not help out Greenway?

I'm basing Ryans off of the three seasons that he has started. He is a smart football player. He is a great football player. I've been saying this since he was a sophmore. In case you want me to name names though... Ryans has played with the following,

Freddie Roach
Juwan Simpson
Cornelius Wortham
Derrick Pope
Roman Harper
Mark Anderson
Antwan Odom

All tackling machines.

[RamsFan16]

Ya anyone in college is a tackling machine. But the Players I named are players that he has been on the same side with. All but Hodge or NFL Stars.

[RamJackson39]

Ya anyone in college is a tackling machine. But the Players I named are players that he has been on the same side with. All but Hodge or NFL Stars.

You are incorrect. The players I named are all players that he has split time with. Thats the beauty of the Alabama defense. Ryans has lined up in many positions, and been a beast in every position. You've never seen a game that Ryans has played in. That has become obvious from what you have said.

And no, everyone in college is not a tackling machine.

[RamsFan16]

You are incorrect. The players I named are all players that he has split time with. Thats the beauty of the Alabama defense. Ryans has lined up in many positions, and been a beast in every position. You've never seen a game that Ryans has played in. That has become obvious from what you have said.

And no, everyone in college is not a tackling machine.

Ok. If he has been a beast at every position tell me what positions he has played and the stats he got when he played them.

[RamJackson39]

Ok. If he has been a beast at every position tell me what positions he has played and the stats he got when he played them.

He has lined up in the DE position, MLB position, and NCB slot. I do not know the stats that he got from that position, seeing as how they dont track it like that.

[RamsFan16]

Ya but you should still know since you watch him every game.

[serkicker32]

hey Ramsfan16 stats do not matter didnt u listen to Nick, and I have seen every one of Mario Williams games and I have no idea how many tackles and sacks he has from lining up on the inside or outside