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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    You brought up a player whose Combine time was not an accurate measurement
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    Now you're twisting my words. I never said it was inaccurate, just that it isn't always the most accurate.
    That's an interesting change of message.


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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

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    This is your example? If this is considered a relevant example, show me a pro-bowl CB in the last 10 years who ran a 4.6 or higher at his pro-day. Since speed doesn't matter, this should be easy.
    Surely, you understand the message is not "speed doesn't matter", but rather "speed is not everything".

    But maybe I assume too much. If speed were everything, Demarcus Van Dyke would be the greatest CB in the NFL. Stanford Routt, Fabian Washington, DRC, Tyvon Branch, Darrant Williams, Michael Waddell, Justin King, Patrick Peterson, & Jon Joseph. There you have the 10 fastest CBs (per their Combine) in the NFL over the past decade. Some of them are good. Some of them are far from good, even downright bad.

    So like I said.......speed is not everything.
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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by RebelYell View Post
    That's an interesting change of message.
    This is getting laughable.

    Let me be as clear as I can - I stated that Wright's Combine time was not an accurate measurement of his on-field speed. This was due to an issue in how he started the evaluation. In my latest response, I even quoted a scout that agreed. That's different than saying the the field at Indianapolis as a whole is an inaccurate measure of speed, which is the stance you tried to attribute to me.

    When you're done failing at the "gotcha" game and would actually like to take a stab at discussing the larger points I've made rather than ignoring them, let me know.
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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    This thread's got more straw men than a Wizard of Oz convention.
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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    This thread's got more straw men than a Wizard of Oz convention.
    And more comedians than an open-mic night.
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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Surely, you understand the message is not "speed doesn't matter", but rather "speed is not everything".

    But maybe I assume too much. If speed were everything, Demarcus Van Dyke would be the greatest CB in the NFL. Stanford Routt, Fabian Washington, DRC, Tyvon Branch, Darrant Williams, Michael Waddell, Justin King, Patrick Peterson, & Jon Joseph. There you have the 10 fastest CBs (per their Combine) in the NFL over the past decade. Some of them are good. Some of them are far from good, even downright bad.

    So like I said.......speed is not everything.
    Man, seeing this made me a little upset. Darrant Williams had a bright future for the Broncos. Probowl caliber CB at only 24, before being slain. Gone to soon like Sean Taylor.

    Getting back to Blackmon....nah I dont think I got anything else to add, Nick is pretty much on point.

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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    I always love the hype machine driven by the media, where players move up or down the week before the draft for no reason.

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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    You guys are making me feel so much better about the eventual Blackmon pick.

    Turf Show Times does nothing except bash the guy and declare him not worthy. Everything i see on the kid shows potential and i think he will be a great weapon for Sam.

    Go Rams
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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by general counsel View Post
    Well said Av on the speed issue. Not directed at anyone in particular, but some of our younger folks might want to check out the 40 yard dash times of jerry rice and skeets nehamiah before getting so obsessed with combine related workout warrior type information.

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    I blame this phenomenon on Madden. While it is the closest simulation we have to the real thing, it is near impossible to accurately reflect several key aspects of the wide receiver position. The SPEED stat is king in Madden, to a point where players "rated" substantially lower than others actually perform much greater. I haven't played in awhile(this years edition), but when I did Desean Jackson was one of the best wide receivers on the game imo. I would choose him over Andre, Fitz, and V Jax hands down.

    So sure, Blackmon won't help Rams fans win Madden games, but Donnie Avery helped me out a ton back in the day. I guess you have to ask yourself what is more important, a video game or the real thing

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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    With the sixth pick in the draft, the St. Louis Rams select...

    Sonic the Hedgehog!
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    Re: Justin Blackmon's skills have diminished in recent weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    With the sixth pick in the draft, the St. Louis Rams select...

    Sonic the Hedgehog!
    I think we can get Sonic in the second round

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