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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    All the people who complain about Claussen's attitude wouldn't dare complain if Philip Rivers was playing for us. Rivers possibly the cockiest mouthiest player in the NFL, but also a pro bowl QB and MVP candidate. Downgrading him because of cockieness doesn't make sense to me.


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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    eh... you got a point there.

    Does his attitude affect his team? That's the question. In most cases, it doesn't help. I don't care how well he plays, I don't want a cocky player that has a bad attitude. And neither do the Rams, its an unnecessary risk.

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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    Quote Originally Posted by Bralidore(RAMMODE) View Post
    Personally, ill probably lose popularity for this, but i wanna grab Clausen over Suh at this point. I want us to trade down a few spots and pick up another 2nd round pick (or first round if humanly possible) and grab him. I love Suh just as much as the next guy but he wont get us a passing offense....and we still don't know what we have in Carriker, Ryan has been solid as well. Long has definitely come along and will hold down the LE spot, and hopefully we can pick up another DE in the second round or through FA.

    The rams will quite simply continue to fail utterly without a quarterback and this was as plain as day in our most recent failure against the *****. Shut the ***** out of the game for 3 quarters!!! Then let them poor it on in the last quarter because no doubt our defense got gassed, and the ***** were able to pull it out because they have an offense and we don't..

    Give us a quarterback that can make all the throws (love him or not: Clausen can make all the throws) and we have a chance to win that ball game. I'm not knocking Null because i understand his situation, but you put a Warner (who Clausen reminds me of sort of, with a bigger arm) and you convert those field goals in the points. Broad assumption but i think its at least reasonable to say, despite our horrible o-line woes, Clausen with his quick release could have converted a lot more of those third downs with less arid throws and accidents.

    Making the Case for ClausenStrengths: Solid size and adequate bulk
    Very good arm strength; can fit balls into tight windows
    Extremely quick, snappy release
    Great accuracy
    Nice hip torque on throws
    Gets rid of ball quickly
    Very decisive with the football
    Takes what defense gives him; doesn't force ball/will throw away
    Elite football IQ
    Great touch
    Well versed in NFL offense
    Good sense of timing
    Will step up/out of pocket
    Knows how to read coverage
    Sees the entire field; great vision
    Very polished for a true junior
    Shown outstanding development from freshman to junior season
    Extremely intelligent
    Ice in his veins; great poise
    Mentally tough; plays through pain
    Big leader
    Confident
    Film room rat
    Elite intangibles
    Good genetics and very well coached
    Spent 3.5 years in a West Coast offense


    Weaknesses:
    Does a poor job of selling play action
    Footwork used to be a bit shoddy, has improved
    Not a fluid athlete
    Personality might come off as abrasive
    Sometimes gets too much air under fade route
    Lacks a little pocket awareness


    We want less rookie down time because we need wins NAO; this guy is the most pro ready quarterback in this years draft EASY.

    Interesting tid bit on Clausen's stats Ive found.


    --Courtesy of Walter Football
    Nice post. Didn't know his stats were that much better than those guys.

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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    Any chance we can see average defensive ranks faced or strength of schedule marks for these backs as well?

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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    To all those people who complain about the teams Claussen played, its nonsense. How did all those tough teams help Matt Leinart and Jamarcus Russell. Rothlessberger, Rivers, Ryan their college competition was worse or about the same as Claussens and I don't see any complaints with those guys.

    Its not about who you play its about projectable qualities against an NFL Defense. Claussen has the accuracy, he makes great reads in a pro system, and even though he isn't a great scrambler he can manipulate the pocket what more do you want.
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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    Ill look into defensive ranks of their opponents regardless, theyve faced pretty decent competition however.
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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    Quote Originally Posted by 39thebeast View Post
    To all those people who complain about the teams Claussen played, its nonsense. How did all those tough teams help Matt Leinart and Jamarcus Russell. Rothlessberger, Rivers, Ryan their college competition was worse or about the same as Claussens and I don't see any complaints with those guys.

    Its not about who you play its about projectable qualities against an NFL Defense. Claussen has the accuracy, he makes great reads in a pro system, and even though he isn't a great scrambler he can manipulate the pocket what more do you want.
    To see him rack up these numbers against teams that aren't from service academies?

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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    I have not watched Clausen play much. Is there evidence that he is a tough player? That is the number one requirement for any Ram's QB. If Clausen can get up and throw accurate passes after getting pressured/knocked-down then I am a fan. This is meant to be a serious question for those that have watched him play.
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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    Quote Originally Posted by BM_Face View Post
    I have not watched Clausen play much. Is there evidence that he is a tough player? That is the number one requirement for any Ram's QB. If Clausen can get up and throw accurate passes after getting pressured/knocked-down then I am a fan. This is meant to be a serious question for those that have watched him play.
    He was sacked 24 times, played behind a questionable line...and those stats you see up there (ended up second in passing efficiency), he put up those numbers while playing the last 10 games with torn ligaments in his right big toe.

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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    Jimmy Clausen's schedule and defensive ranks of his opponents (ranked by opposing QB rating)...

    W vs. Nevada (118th pass D): 15/18, 315 yds, 4 TDs
    L @ Michigan (70th pass D): 25/42, 336 yds, 3 TDs
    W vs. Michigan State (101st pass D): 22/31, 300 yds, 2 TDs
    W @ Purdue (32nd pass D): 15/26, 171 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT
    W vs. Washington (98th pass D): 23/31, 422 yds, 2 TDs, 1 INT
    L vs. USC (16th pass D): 24/43, 260 yds, 2 TDs
    W vs. Boston College (39th pass D): 26/39, 246 yds, 2 TDs
    W vs. Washington State (112th pass D): 22/27, 268 yds, 2 TDs
    L vs. Navy (50th pass D): 37/51, 452 yds, 2 TDs, 1 INT
    L @ Pittsburgh (42nd pass D): 27/42, 283 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT
    L vs. Connecticut (86th pass D): 30/45, 329 yds, 2 TDs
    L @ Stanford (97th pass D): 23/30, 340 yds, 5 TDs

    Draw your own conclusions!

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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    ty nick, saved me some work there

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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    You have to look at quarterbacks who have stepped onto teams that have a serious lack of talent for comparison.

    Matt Stafford and the Lions would seem to be a good example.

    Will it be considered a good pick if the Rams draft Clausen, lose him to injury, and go 2-14?

    I'm curious what the expectations are for next season if the Rams take a quarterback first in the draft.

    On a side note, do you really want this to be the face of the Rams organization?


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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    Exactly.

    A picture is worth a thousand words.


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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    Quote Originally Posted by The Optimistic Lamb View Post
    Exactly.

    A picture is worth a thousand words.
    I really hope that you guys are joking. Anyone who prefers Tebow to Clausen on the strength of a picture has lost the plot. Clausen is by far the better quarterback.

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    Re: Making the Case for Clausen

    Quote Originally Posted by DistantRam View Post
    I really hope that you guys are joking. Anyone who prefers Tebow to Clausen on the strength of a picture has lost the plot. Clausen is by far the better quarterback.
    While I agree with that, I found this while doing a Google search and thought it was pretty darn funny!


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