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    Milwakee Journal Sentinel Combine Interviews

    2007 draft preview
    By BOB McGINN
    bmginn@journalsentinel.com
    Posted: Feb. 24, 2007
    Indianapolis - Based on interviews with executives in personnel from several NFL teams, it is possible to narrow down somewhat the pool of players who might be considered by the Green Bay Packers regardless of position if they exercise their current 16th pick in the first round of the NFL draft April 28-29.

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    Buy a link hereProspects are divided into three categories: As Good As Gone - barring negative developments, these players have no chance of lasting until the 16th pick; Probably Gone - players who have no better than a 50-50 chance of remaining on the board by the 16th pick; and The Next Level - players who figure to be taken next.

    Here is an early look at the players who appear to fit into those categories (* - Denotes underclassmen who declared early for the draft):

    AS GOOD AS GONE (6)
    Calvin Johnson*, WR, Georgia Tech: 6 feet 5 inches, 239 pounds. Cross between Randy Moss and Keyshawn Johnson. "If you just did it as a player he could be the first pick," one scout said. "He's kind of got Keyshawn Johnson body control but he's got top speed. I don't think there's been one like this in a long time." Declared a year early after catching 76 passes for 1,202 yards (15.8 average) and 15 TDs in 2006. "You can scout him," another scout said. "He's sort of a strider who gains speed. He can run routes, he can catch, he can take balls away. He needs to work on his blocking, but he can destroy people when he wants to."

    Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin: 6-6 1/2, 311. Came back from a torn knee ligament suffered in January 2006 to establish himself as a top-five pick. "He's a level better than Paul Gruber," one scout said. "I've never seen a lineman do the things he does downfield. He's a little tight-hipped. In pass pro he doesn't sink well. He'll get pushed in pass pro some but not to the point where you're concerned about it at our level." Smart, committed and confident. "I don't think he's a great, great one," another scout said. "But he's good. He will be a left tackle and he'll be fine. He's the same type of guy as Gruber."

    JaMarcus Russell*, QB, Louisiana State: 6-5, 265. Expected to weigh 255 but showed up at the combine carrying 10 extra pounds. "He's (Daunte) Culpepper strong with a Culpepper arm," one scout said. "Not as athletic as Culpepper when he came out running. If you're looking at what Vince Young did, he's going to be a tough guy to pass." Completed 67.8% in '06 and had an NFL passer rating of 114.3. "I think he's legit, but that's without talking to the kid and seeing how smart he is," another scout said. A natural-born leader a la Byron Leftwich with arm strength comparable to Doug Williams. "I just think reading coverages will be extremely difficult for him," said a third scout. "He'll throw a lot of picks and make a lot of bad decisions. If you try to confuse him with coverages, you can do that."

    Adrian Peterson*, RB, Oklahoma: 6-1 1/2, 217. Bothered by ankle and shoulder problems during spectacular three-year career. "He runs upright, like Chris Brown in Tennessee," one scout said. "Which is conducive to getting the hell knocked out of you." Compared by many scouts to Eric Dickerson, by others to Steven Jackson. "You see what the Larry Johnson's have done," another scout said. "The big, fast backs. He's in that mold." Hard worker with exemplary work habits. "He's super-tough and a heck of a football player," a third scout said. "But it's a weird thing. When he gets tackled he falls bad. His legs get all tangled up. Every other play, you wonder if he's going to get up. I'm just really, really concerned about his injuries and the way he runs."

    Jamaal Anderson*, DE, Nebraska: 6-6. 280. Amassed 13 1/2 sacks as a junior and declared. "You could make some comparisons to Mario Williams," one scout said. In high school, he played wide receiver and was a tremendous basketball player. "He's a freak," another scout said. "He's got a (expletive) of potential. He has feet, he can play the run and the pass." Didn't become a starter until mid-2005. "He's a very bright kid," a third scout said. "I know he has a lot of talent. I just wish I saw him flying to the ball more. I don't know what drives or motivates him."

    Alan Branch*, DT, Michigan: 6-5 1/2, 324. Compared on Friday by Detroit coach Rod Marinelli to Shaun Rogers. "Looks the part," one scout said. "He will run fast. You'll see him just killing people on tape." At other times, he disappears. "When did he have a good game?" another scout said. "Against Wisconsin he played over a guard that's not very good. He stinks. He's not a quick-twitch guy. He can run once he gets off blocks but I never see him defeat people one-on-one. Never." Hails from Albuquerque, N.M. "He's a different type of bird," a third scout said. "You've got to deal with that. Like (Marshawn) Lynch. He's got that group of friends that aren't going away."

    PROBABLY GONE (6)
    Dwayne Jarrett*, WR, Southern California: 6-4, 215. Came out a year early after dominating the Rose Bowl and setting a Pacific 10-record with 41 touchdowns in 38 games. "He might somehow get a good time, but he's not fast and he doesn't play fast," one scout said. "But he's so damn big and physical. They just throw it up to him and he makes a ton of plays." Still, he's faster than Detroit's Mike Williams, another former Trojan. "Very instinctive receiver," another scout said. "More of an intermediate route runner. Good hands and body control."

    Levi Brown, T, Penn State: 6-5, 323. Four-year starter. "He's every bit as athletic as Joe Thomas," one scout said. "Left tackle. He just has to be a little more consistent." Will coast against inferior opponents. "Mature and serious," another scout said. "You can see some inner grit in him. He will need some work in pass pro."

    Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame: 6-3 1/2, 232. "He had so much pub so you're expecting this great, great guy," one scout said. "He's not a Peyton Manning coming out. He's a very similar (prospect) to Aaron Rodgers. People are questioning how good this guy is going to be. I think he'll start somewhere and you can win with him." Posted an NFL passer rating of 104.4 in '06 and scored 29 on the Wonderlic intelligence test. "He's got the arm strength, the size, the mobility," another scout said. "He definitely improved since Charlie Weis showed up there. He's just an inconsistent player." Tends to get flustered under pressure.

    Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson: 6-4, 258. Played the run better as a senior and also registered 12 1/2 sacks. "When you see him he looks like the first pick in the draft, physically speaking," one scout said. "He's that 'wow' guy. But he's a hot and cold type player. You wish he had a little more glass in his diet." Other scouts have reservations about his effort and toughness. "He is a very casual, laid-back person," another scout said. "You've got to question mental toughness. But he has got all the ability you want." Added a third scout: "Not a dog by any stretch of the imagination but not always a top effort guy. Most likely he'll be a right end in a 4-3. He's going to rush the passer."

    Lawrence Timmons*, LB, Florida State: 6-1, 234. Backed up Ernie Sims for two seasons before blossoming in '06. "This kid may be the most explosive hitter of all the defensive players," one scout said. "He plays all three positions. Puts his hand down, stands up, angles in. Sometimes on passing downs they move him into a three-technique. He can run." Could have used his senior season to hone unrefined skills. "Height-weight-speed guy," another scout said. "Not as productive as some of the players that played there in the past. (Buster) Davis made all the plays and Lawrence was standing around by the pile."

    Leon Hall, CB, Michigan: 5-11, 193. Does a lot of things well but lacks burning speed and great ball skills. "He's along the lines of Ty Law," one scout said. "He will have to fit a system. He will start." Just not very dynamic. "You know what you're getting with the guy," another scout said. "Good tackler. He's tough. He gets his hands on balls. Great kid. Smart. He's going to be a 4.50 guy, maybe."

    THE NEXT LEVEL (38)
    Ted Ginn Jr.*, WR, Ohio State: 6-0, 180. One of the fastest players in the draft. "He's not going to be that guy that goes across the middle," one scout said. "He is your down-the-field vertical guy. Joey Galloway. Terry Glenn." Dropped too many passes in '06. Averaged 11.1 yards per punt return and 24.4 per kickoff return. "What's wrong with him?" another scout said. "I can live with timid. I think he just jumps out at you."

    Robert Meachem*, WR, Tennessee: 6-2, 214. After a disappointing '05 season came back as a junior to catch 71 passes for 1,298 yards (18.3) and 11 TDs. "A lot of his yards are after the catch," one scout said. "Very strong runner. Very consistent player." Compared by another scout to Michael Irvin. "And he has speed," the scout said. "He's a really good kid. I'd take him after Johnson."

    Anthony Gonzalez*, WR, Ohio State: 6-0, 193. Ran most of the inside patterns opposite Ginn and surprised some people by coming out early. "Not quite as fast as Ginn but he's fast," one scout said. "Very bright kid. And he isn't small." Always looking to improve. Sleeps in an oxygen-deprivation tent. Also could be a returner.

    Sidney Rice*, WR, South Carolina: 6-3 1/2, 200. Had 72 catches for 1,178 yards (15.1) and 10 TDs as a third-year sophomore and came out. "He's silky smooth," one scout said. "Played on an awful, awful team. The quarterback was terrible. He's a tall, slender guy with a lot of talent." Often, coach Steve Spurrier just told his quarterbacks to put the ball up to Rice. Regarded as somewhat hard to coach. "He's not a real polished route runner," another scout. "But I don't think his character stuff is too bad."

    Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU: 6-2, 221. Best senior wideout. "He's more of a possession tough guy," one scout said. "Does the dirty work. Really good body control. You love the competitor. He has his drops, too." Underwent corrective eye surgery before the '06 season and caught the ball much better. "He always will have to monitor his weight," another scout said. "He knows his limitation, which is his lack of speed. Great route runner. Strong hands. He'd be fun to coach."

    Greg Olsen*, TE, Miami: 6-5 1/2, 258. Latest in the line of Hurricanes tight ends that includes Bubba Franks, Jeremy Shockey and Kellen Winslow. "Good receiver but he won't block anybody," one scout said. "And he knows it, too. I talked to him at the Senior Bowl. First thing out of his mouth was, 'I know I need to block better.' " Picked a good year to come out because senior crop of tight ends is so weak. "He has quickness and speed to stretch the seams," another scout said. "He will provide matchup problems."

    Ben Grubbs, G, Auburn: 6-2 1/2, 311. Followed strong senior season with impressive Senior Bowl. "There won't be a more athletic offensive lineman than him," one scout said. "I'm not saying he's Randall McDaniel athletic, but he's pretty damn good. And he's big." A tenacious battler who is eager to learn. "You want a safe pick, you take Ben," another scout said. "He's the best guard. I'd love to have him."

    Arron Sears, G, Tennessee: 6-3, 319. Played left tackle in '06 but has played guard and is projected inside by most teams. "Big, thick wide-body," one scout said. "Got a little road-grader to him." Durable. Plays with pain. "He's got explosion, power," another scout said. "He'll get movement on the football."

    Ryan Harris, T, Notre Dame: 6-4 1/2, 305. Started since the middle of his freshman year. Played as low as 275 in '06 but was 303 at the Senior Bowl and 305 at the combine. "He's not a naturally big guy," one scout said. "But he's athletic and smart and tough and all those other things." Added another scout: "He could play left tackle. But in year three or four you're going to say, 'We've got to get better.' "

    Justin Blalock, G, Texas: 6-3, 320. His body lacks definition. "He is dumpy," one scout said. "Power guy. Stays on his feet. Thing about him, he plays heavy." Generally played right tackle but figures more as a guard. "We think he's tough," another scout said. "Some people there (Texas) didn't think he was that tough."

    Ryan Kalil, C, USC: 6-3, 299. Not rated as highly as Ohio State's Nick Mangold a year ago but clearly the No. 1 center. "He's just an ultra-talented Jeff Faine, LeCharles Bentley type," one scout said. "Just a solid player." Added another scout: "He's just not going to be real big. He played his (expletive) off at the Senior Bowl and helped himself drastically down there. Everybody was saying he was going to have trouble with big people. Down there, you didn't notice it very much."

    Joe Staley, T, Central Michigan: 6-6, 305. A former tight end with remarkable speed (4.75 seconds in the 40-yard dash) and agility. "The Senior Bowl sort of showed some chinks in his armor, but you don't want to rule him out because of that," one scout said. An athletic project with tremendous tools to mold. "Any time you get a guy as big as he is who can bend and slide. . . . He's not going to let himself fail because of his personality," another scout said. "He doesn't have the mass yet but he has some squareness in his play."

    Tony Ugoh, T, Arkansas: 6-4 1/2, 305. More than athletic enough to be an NFL left tackle but has a long way to go. "He didn't play very well in the Senior Bowl, either," one scout said. "Talent-wise, he's got it all. Long arms. Smart kid. He's got what you're looking for." Member of the Razorbacks' track team and missed a lot of spring ball. "A lot of guys rave about him," another scout said. "But he's an edge blocker, not a square blocker. Great athlete, but I don't know if it will all come together."

    Drew Stanton, QB, Michigan State: 6-3, 235. Fell apart in the second half of the Notre Dame game early in the season and completed a down senior season with an NFL passer rating of 80.3. "Then he looked like (expletive) at the Senior Bowl," one scout said. "But he's a big kid that's athletic. He's got everything." Scored 35 on the Wonderlic. Time and again, he was willing to play hurt. "His receivers couldn't catch helium-filled balloons," another scout said. "He lost both running backs. The defense was awful. What chance did he have? He has first-round ability. You've got to figure out why he was inconsistent."

    Marshawn Lynch*, RB, California: 5-11, 215. "He has great vision as opposed to Peterson, who uses his speed," one scout said. "The key on him is how fast he is." Gained 1,356 yards (6.1) in '06. "Good toughness, smooth runner, got hands out of the backfield, secure ball carrier, has the skills to be a kick returner," another scout said. "I don't worry about him on the field. It's off the field that I worry about." Nagged by injuries and behavioral questions. "I think he's just kind of a pain in the (expletive)," a third scout said. "Nothing real bad but you're just getting a different type of guy. You just have to know there's some things there."

    Tony Hunt, RB, Penn State: 6-1 1/2, 233. Rushed for 1,386 yards (5.0 average) as a senior, finishing his career with more carries than any back in school history. "He's just not going to be a speed guy," one scout said. "He's good. He's tough. He's not a bad guy at all but he's a little different. He doesn't say two words." Added another scout: "He has wonderful power."

    Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville: 6-2, 302. Spent first 12 years of his life in Nigeria, began college career at 16 and won't turn 20 until June 10. "He reminds me of Danny Saleaumua, who became an all-pro in Kansas City," one scout said. "He's athletic, he's strong, just not a real bulky guy. Teams that move guys, he will fit." Made himself a ton of money with a big week at the Senior Bowl. "He's quick, athletic and young," another scout said. "Somebody will stick him in one of those Tampa 2 defenses."

    Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska: 6-6, 308. Will play left end and possibly three-technique tackle in a 4-3 but also has the size to play end in a 3-4. "He's a lot like (Aaron) Kampman but he's a 300-pounder," one scout said. Not a great pass rusher but uses his brute strength to push blockers back and has adequate speed, too. "Everything that a Nebraska lineman has come to symbolize, he's got all those traits," another scout said. "Did you see 'Rocky 3?' " This guy looks exactly like the Russian. Drago."

    Jarvis Moss*, DE, Florida: 6-5 1/2, 250. "He's a speed rusher," one scout said. "It would have behooved him to stay in and get stronger. He's an explosive edge rusher who will struggle against the run until he gets stronger." Projected to linebacker by some 3-4 teams. "Like Jevon Kearse, when he puts his hand on the ground he's way better," another scout said. "He was a better player than (Shawne) Merriman coming out."

    Victor Abiamiri, DE, Notre Dame: 6-4, 268. Put up 10 1/2 sacks as a senior despite dealing with loads of double teams. "He'll be a better pro because they'll just let him go upfield," one scout said. "He can play the run well. Good pass rusher. He's a nice package."

    LaMarr Woodley, DE, Michigan: 6-1, 269. Played with great effort and was more than respectable in '06 meeting against the Badgers' Joe Thomas. "He's such an intense, high-motor guy," one scout said. "But I'm not crazy about him." That's because he's short. Compared by another scout to Detroit's James Hall, another former Wolverine. Some say he'll be able to play linebacker in a 3-4. "He plays with good leverage, he uses his arms and hands well, he's got strength and pop," a third scout said. "But he is only a pass rusher."

    Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia: 6-4 1/2, 250. Went from 6 1/2 sacks in 2004 and 11 1/2 in '05 to 3 1/2 in '06. "He's probably my biggest disappointment all season," one scout said. "He plays like a basketball player. I don't think he's a physical guy. He will have problems with size." Still, he's a special athlete who did play hoops for the Bulldogs as a freshman. "He's an athlete but he's scary as hell," another scout said.

    Anthony Spencer, DE, Purdue: 6-2 1/2, 262. Unlike Moses, he ascended as a senior after leading Division I-A in tackles for loss (26 1/2). "A bigger version of Woodley," one scout said. "He sure is a good player." Played hard and well week after week. "He's intense, kind of like Shawne Merriman intensity," another scout said. Registered 10 1/2 sacks. "He's a little short but he made a ton of plays and plays his (expletive) off," a third scout said. "He might not be a top, top athlete but he knows what he's doing as a pass rusher. Not just a pass rusher, either. He makes a lot of tackles where some guys don't."

    Charles Johnson*, DE, Georgia: 6-2, 270. Led Bulldogs in sacks (9 1/2), tackles for loss (19) and passes broken up (10). "It was really strange," one scout said. "I just don't know if he knows what he's doing all the time. He doesn't play the run very well. I think he is really talented and he's a good kid and he plays hard. You just wonder why he wasn't as productive as you think he should be."

    Justin Harrell, DT, Tennessee: 6-4 1/2, 300. Suffered a torn biceps early in '06 and missed most of the season. "He's quicker than he is fast," one scout said. Projected as a left end in a 3-4 or a three-technique in a 4-3. "A lot of guys will compare him to John Henderson in terms of his person," another scout said. "Very country. He is the last person at Tennessee to wear 92, Reggie White's number. Now they will retire that number."

    Ray McDonald, DT, Florida: 6-2 1/2, 276. Has had a pair of reconstructive operations on the same knee. "He's way better than (Alan) Branch," one scout said. "He's just not a real big guy. Multi-talented." Has the quickness to rush the passer inside and the power to play the run outside. "He's a base end and a nickel pass rusher," another scout said. "That's his strength. He can go either or. He's not great at either."

    Tim Crowder, DE, Texas: 6-3 1/2, 270. Four-year starter at left end. "I'm still waiting for him to have a dominant game," one scout said. "He played pretty consistently and has a lot of natural ability. You'd like to see him dominate at some point." Had 8 1/2 sacks as a senior. "He gets all his sacks against lesser competition," another scout said. "When the real guys are there he don't show up. It scares you."

    Patrick Willis, LB, Mississippi: 6-1, 242. Middle linebacker for Ole Miss but probably can excel on the weak side, too. "He's fast, productive, smart, high character, got everything," one scout said. "He's the same guy and person as A.J. Hawk." Overcome the drowning death of his brother a year ago. "Little tight-hipped but he can run and he's tough as nails," another scout said.

    Jon Beason*, LB, Miami: 6-0, 237. Fought through nagging knee injuries. "He's very tough," one scout said. "Midway through the season he got an MCL sprain and he just braced it up and played. Never missed a game." On the smallish side and probably played better in '05 than '06. "He's the best inside backer in the draft," another scout said. "He's not real big. That's his problem. But he's really got great instincts. He runs all over the field."

    Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State: 6-1 1/2, 238. Damaged knee ligaments in January 2006 but didn't need surgery and was back playing in a brace by September. "He is a lot like Rocky Calmus, who came out of Oklahoma a few years ago," one scout said. "Really good college football player whose body isn't made to play in the NFL. He's instinctive and pretty smart and makes plays. At some point, just like Rocky, his body is going to fail him. Chad Greenway has a similar body but is a little better athlete."

    LaRon Landry, S, LSU: 6-2, 205. Better than his brother, Dawan, a fifth-round pick who started at strong safety for Baltimore in '06. "He's like Mike Brown but a level better in talent," one scout said. "Not a leader like Mike Brown. He's a natural. He goes top 15 with a great workout." Not as good as Baltimore's Ed Reed but big, powerful and explosive. "There's some questions about him," another scout said. "I don't know how smart he is."

    Reggie Nelson*, S, Florida: 6-0, 197. Gifted ball-hawk with speed and range. "When they throw the ball up he's all over it," one scout said. "Great athlete." Junior-college transfer who struggled academically, but the Gator coaches vouch for his football intelligence. "It doesn't show up on tape, it really doesn't," another scout said. "He's all over the place. He's not a killer like Landry can be, but he's so much more athletic." His mother died Dec. 28 after a three-year battle with breast cancer.

    Brandon Meriweather, S, Miami: 6-0, 195. "He's 195 pounds but he can cover and he's tough," one scout said. "If you wanted to move him down and play him in nickel stuff, I think he could do that. He has played a little corner for them." Dinged by some on character issues, including a one-game suspension for stomping on a Florida International player. "He's got first-round ability," another scout said. "But as soon you draft him that article will be written."

    Michael Griffin, S, Texas: 5-11 1/2, 195. Doesn't play as good as he looks. "He's athletic but he doesn't play with his eyes," one scout said. "He lets things go by that he should be picking up in coverage." Two-year starter equally adept at run or pass. "I don't get all lit up about him," another scout said. "He's tough enough. He doesn't do anything real special."

    Darrelle Revis*, CB, Pittsburgh: 5-11 1/2, 200. If he runs a fast 40 here Tuesday, he might be the second cornerback taken. "The workout will seal where he will go," one scout said. "Is he going to run a 4.58 or a 4.42? Looks more like a safety. Real good athlete. Punt returner (8.6) for them. Got really good ball skills. Will come up and force. Just a solid football player." Started almost from the moment he stepped on campus in 2004.

    Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State: 6-0 1/2, 199. Disappointing senior season might have cost him a berth in the first round. "He's probably the most talented of all the corners," one scout said. "He's big, he's fast, he's not a killer but he's not afraid, either." Fresno coach Pat Hill, a former NFL assistant, has influenced scouts by telling them McCauley quit on the team in '06. "You'll play a lot of bump-and-run or press coverage with this guy and try to rattle the receivers," another scout said.

    Aaron Ross, CB, Texas: 6-0 1/2, 192. The positives include three TDs as a punt returner, good instincts and keen ball skills. The main negative is speed. "You watch him against Ohio State, Kansas State I think it was and Iowa, the fast guys run by him," one scout said. "I like him, too. I just don't know how fast he is. If we're talking about a 4.6 guy, no way."

    Chris Houston*, CB, Arkansas: 5-11, 190. Followed in the footsteps and style of Ahmad Carroll. "Same guy," one scout said. Lined up in press coverage on almost every snap. "He really came on the scene this year," another scout said. "Really a very confident type player. He won't work out extremely well. He'll have to be a Cover 2 corner so he's not exposed speed-wise. He had a really good year."


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    The stuff about Branch makes you wonder.

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    Consistency is an issue with Branch, but defensive line guru Marinelli spoke highly of him at the combine and even with those comments the article puts him in the top six of players likely to be gone.

    For everything that's been mentioned by posters about Branch's work ethic or consistency, I've yet to see stock drop much at all outside of Kiper's rankings and maybe one other place. Maybe that changes as we get closer to April but at this point I believe he's still the top nose tackle candidate in this class and pretty much fills our biggest area of need.

    Since we're pointing out some interesting things we noticed, I don't believe I see Tank Tyler's name in this list of fifty players...
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    Consistency is an issue with Branch, but defensive line guru Marinelli spoke highly of him at the combine and even with those comments the article puts him in the top six of players likely to be gone.

    For everything that's been mentioned by posters about Branch's work ethic or consistency, I've yet to see stock drop much at all outside of Kiper's rankings and maybe one other place. Maybe that changes as we get closer to April but at this point I believe he's still the top nose tackle candidate in this class and pretty much fills our biggest area of need.

    Since we're pointing out some interesting things we noticed, I don't believe I see Tank Tyler's name in this list of fifty players...
    I don't think the Pack are in the market for a DT.

    Nick honest question would you be upset if the Rams traded down into the late 1st and drafted Tank Tyler.

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    I don't think the Pack are in the market for a DT.
    So Tyler's not on the list because the Packers aren't looking for a DT? Why are there four other defensive tackles on the list then?

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    Nick honest question would you be upset if the Rams traded down into the late 1st and drafted Tank Tyler.
    Yes, I would be disappointed if we traded away a shot at a more talented prospect in order to take Tyler in the late first.

    First of all, I'm not even convinced at this point that he's good value in the late first. Secondly, at the 13 spot, we have the chance to get a very good defensive prospect. Okoye may still be on the board, Carriker could be there, Branch or Landry could slip, you could take a linebacker like Timmons or even Willis. Which one of those players do you pass on to move down and take someone like Tyler? It's unlikely that all of them are off the board and the Rams are forced to move down.

    Furthermore, what does it say and mean about your organization when thus far in the offseason you have a tight end arrested for a DUI, add another one that has previous domestic abuse concerns, and then you specifically move down in the draft so you can take a player with multiple off the field red flag incidents?

    If Tyler fell to us in the second round and we took him there, that would be a better decision though ultimately still a concerning one because of Tyler's off the field issues. However at that point you could probably make a strong case that his value combined with our need in that area would be too much to pass up on at that point.

    But to trade down from 13, likely passing on other defensive prospects in the process, in order to take Tyler in the late first where his value is questionable at best IMO... not a strategy I'd be very pleased with.
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    i wouldnt trade down from our first rounder for Tyler. Like Nick said, we cant pass up on a talented guy like Carriker or Landry or whoever is there at the 13th pick. We havent been in a position to grab a very talented player in the draft for a while, so lets make it count.

    However, i dont think its out of the question to trade up in the second to grab Tyler, as even with his off the field questions he fills a huge need.

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    Lets says that Okoye and Branch are gone by the 13th pick in the draft. Lets also assume that Tyler is not going ot make it past the NYJ at the 25th pick in the draft who are desperate for a true NT.

    I feel that the Rams need at NT is so desperate that they may have to pass on a guy like Jarvis Moss to move down and get a guy that will do more for the defense then a more talented player.

    As of right now we are wasting our money and talent at LB because they are not portected. It is the same as having the best RB in the league but no one playing OL.

    I would have loved if the Rams could have done something in free agency to allow them to go best player available, but as of right now their st priority has to be DT.

    If Okoye or Branch fall that makes it very easy, but if they don't.

    As for the legal concerns I think that it is something that will have to be talked about and adressed but half the guys in the draft have had run ins with the law, I bet Adam Carriker has been caught tiping a cow before.

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    Re: Milwakee Journal Sentinel Combine Interviews

    I wouldn't trade down for the sake of taking Tyler. However, if the Rams don't pick a DT at #13, and they can trade up a few spots in the second to get Tyler, I'd consider it.

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    Re: Milwakee Journal Sentinel Combine Interviews

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    I wouldn't trade down for the sake of taking Tyler. However, if the Rams don't pick a DT at #13, and they can trade up a few spots in the second to get Tyler, I'd consider it.
    I don't think that Tyler makes it past the NYJ, teams value true NT much higher than they should because their are so few real NT.

    Tyler will get picked by the Jets, Saints, Colts, Chargers before he hits the 2nd and then he won't get past the Browns who need a true NT for tehir 3-4.

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    As for the legal concerns I think that it is something that will have to be talked about and adressed but half the guys in the draft have had run ins with the law
    Okay, please list the guys in this draft who are going to go in round one who have an arrest for assault on a police officer on their record.

    We're not just talking about tipping a cow. We're talking about assaulting a police officer. This isn't small potatoes by any means, especially when combined with other incidents of character issues.

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    I don't think that Tyler makes it past the NYJ
    Would you like to make a friendly wager on that one?
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