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    My Own Best Picks in Rams History

    I won't go back to my days as a draftnik that followed the Cardinals, from 1970-1987, but here are the picks that had me jumping up and down on draft day, the last 16 years in person at Rams Park.

    1. Orlando Pace 1997 - I was prepared to be happy with Walter Jones, who I also felt was a once in a decade type tackle, but when I heard the ridiculously low price the Rams gave the Jets Bill Parcells to trade up, I was pumped.

    Actually, I was on the radio, in studio with Bernie Miklasz when we broke the story on the deal, as Bernie was tpiied off by Rams PR director Rick Smith during our broadcast.

    2. Kevin Carter 1995 - I won a helmet phone at a draft party for predicting round one, in the only draft I didn't see at Rams Park. My friend and I got interviewed because we were going so nuts and high fiving after the pick of my guy.

    3. Torry Holt 1999 - In maybe my happiest draft, because of getting a guy who would light up the team and excite the fans. Some liked Champ Bailey better, but I just fell in love with Holt's whole story, and with the way he made it all look so easy in college.
    That year, my son's favorite player in college, Dre Bly, ended up with the Rams too, which had my son and i both walking on cloud nine.

    4. Sam Bradford 2010 - I was praying the Rams would have the guts to take Bradford, despite his injury, and i've been arguing that it was right ever since. I still think in the end, I'll be proven out.

    5. Robert Quinn 2011 - Pretty much all off-season, I had Quinn as an impossible dream for the Rams, picking that late. WHen it came close, with either he or Nick Fairly going to the Lions, the other to the Rams, I was shocked, and thrilled that the Rams got an elite pass rushing talent.

    6. Chris Long 2008 - Got tons of grief about my belief in Long, but what I t hought would happen, did. He became a very solid, team leader, with terrific char acter and work ethic, who would be a ten year, 100 sack guy with lots of other positives in his play.

    7. Jame Laurinaitis rd 2 , 2009 - While I had real mixed feelings about Jason Smith, I was thrilled that the Rams were able to get a guy I felt wasa rock solid first round talent.

    8. Grant Wistrom 1998 - I started liking Wistrom the year before he came out, hoping the Rams might get a shot at this guy, and despite all t he questions about whether he fit the 4-3, the same as with Long, I kew he would do what it took to be a star.

    9. Steven Jackson 2004 - I couldn't believe that a horse like Jackson could ever fall to the Rams that late, and dealing to get him was the best thing Mike Martz ever did. For a couple years, I had to defend this pick over and over to hater fans, but i think it worked out.
    Lots more folks hated on SJ39 than Sam Bradford, by the way.

    10. Leonard Little -1998 Rd 3 - At the time, I called it the steal of the draft, and so did a lot of pundits. Little was a freak with long arms and WR speed, and I figured it would only be a matter of time where he would be a big contributor.

    Now for the biggest head scratchers on draft day

    1. Donnie Avery - When Ray Rice was somehow available in round two that year, and the Rams took a WR I had rated about 15th, I kind of went nuts down at Rams Park.

    2. Tye Hill - The worst part of taking a smallish unknown I didn't have r ated in my top 10 cornerbacks that year, was that they probably passed on Darrell Revis the next year because they had taken Hill.

    3. Robert Thomas 2002 - Again a guy I didn't have on my radar for the Rams, as the Rams compounded the mistake of letting London Fletcher walk.

    4. Travis Fisher - 2002 - I had never even heard of him, let alone had him rated a second rounder.

    5. Trung Canidate - 2000 - The guy I wanted was DT Cornelius Griffin or DE Darren Howard, as BPA for a good team. I liked Canidates speed, but the Rams did not need a RB.
    I did win a Super Bowl championship football aurographed by the entire 1999 team at a draft party at an Earth City Casino party hosted by H Balzer, so that year wasn't ALL bad.

    6. Joe Klopfenstein -2006 - I thought what a complete reach, and i had Dominique Byrd, who the Rams got later, rated higher. Both were busts, for different reasons though.

    7. Jacoby Shepherd -2000 - Again, a guy I had nowhere on my draftnik radar, and boy did i drink the koolade when Charley Armey assured us all he was a diamond in the rough.

    8. Eddie Kennison - 1996 - I hate going after track guys with limited WR experince very high. I knw the Rams needed a receiver, but I thought the guy who ended up going with the very next pick, a guy named Marvin Harrison, was a far more polished and safer pick.

    9. Lance Kendricks 2011 - Just a guy I really did not rate that high at all, though he is a decent player when healthy. Jury still out a bit here.

    10. Jesse James 1995 - Seemed like a waste of a second round pick at the time for a guy known to have weight and lazy issues in college.


    Now , here are some I was OK with, if not thrilled with, mainly in weak drafts where i wasn't all that high on anyone the Rams could choose from.

    1. Adam Carriker -2007 I though he could make the switch to DT, with all that talent and size. He couldn't, and he was no leader either.

    2. Lawrence Phillips - 1996 I could say I liked Eddie George better, but in reality my guy was Tim Biakabatuka, who got hurt and busted out with Carolina.

    3. Jimmy Kennedy -2003 I though the Rams were lucky to have Kennedy fall, though I wanted Troy Polamalu mostly in my mocks. I was fine with Kennedy though.

    4. Alex Barron - 2005 Seemed like the obvious pick when their turn came, with such a huge need for the Rams that draft.

    5. Brian Leonard 2007 rd 2 - Just liked this guy in college, and thought he was a good value in round two.

    6. Damione Lewis 2001 He was from the U, where great DT came from, and looked to have all the tools to be great.

    7. Adam Archuleta 2001 The guy worked out like no other, but his pumped up body couldn't take the NFL pounding.

    8. Dexter McCleon 1997 I loved getting a big DB, really thought the baseball star center fielder would be that for the Rams too, if not at CB, then at FS.

    9. Zach Wiegert Rd 2 1996 After getting Carter, I saw a real coup getting the stud guard/tackle from Nebraska. They gave up on him a bit too soon, in my opinion.

    10. Robert Holcombe rd 2 1998 I loved Holcombe with a lousy Illini team his whole time there, but while he was a solid contributor as a FB, he never got the chance to carry the ball much.

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    Actually, in 2004, I predicted that the Rams would take a RB in Round 1, and you told me that I was crazy.

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    Re: My Own Best Picks in Rams History

    <<Actually, in 2004, I predicted that the Rams would take a RB in Round 1, and you told me that I was crazy>>

    Actually, YOU neglect to note that all my mock drafts had Steven Jackson, by FAR the best RB that year, the ONLY one I had rated as a first round pick, long GONE before the Rams pick. Others felt the same.

    SI had him going 11th to the Steelers, Scout.com had his 15th to TB, Walter Football, drat king, and Scott Wright had him 17th to the Broncos, Kiper had his 21st to NE,

    They did trade up a couple picks to get that pick ON draft day, Because they thought that the Packers or Bengals would take Jackson, eh?


    I just wasn't interested in Chris Perry or Kevin Jones in round one.

    Don't try to rewrite history dude.

    The Rams won't take a RB in rd 1 this year, but if Bo Jackson was there, it COULD happen.

    See it's not about what they need always, as much as who they end up having a shot at when their pick arrives, or after a deal up.

    Like when Quinn fell. I didn't have the Rams going DE first, but he was too good to pass up, and as he was there with the Rams on the clock, I was doing cartwheels to get him.

    And this year, if someone that didn't fit a top need but was a sure top five talent fell to 13th, I would take him too, maybe even a QB.


    That's how the best GMs do it, or they trade down faced with that situation.
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    Everyone had SJ as the top back that year, but when I mocked the Rams taking a RB in Round 1, you said I was crazy because we still had Faulk.

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    Re: My Own Best Picks in Rams History

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Everyone had SJ as the top back that year, but when I mocked the Rams taking a RB in Round 1, you said I was crazy because we still had Faulk.
    Based on that theory, if Clowney were to absolutely dominate at the Combine would you consider drafting him at 2 if he's available?

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    Re: My Own Best Picks in Rams History

    The thing that absolutely killed the Rams and ruined a dynasty was the Rams draft of 2001, when they had three 1st round picks and struck out swinging on all three: Damione Lewis at 12, Adam Archuleta at 20, and Ryan Pickett at 29. Steve Hutchinson, Casey Hampton, Deuce McCallister, Reggie Wayne, Todd Heap, Chad Johnson, Adrian Wilson… all players we passed on that could have changed the history of the Rams organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie25 View Post
    The thing that absolutely killed the Rams and ruined a dynasty was the Rams draft of 2001, when they had three 1st round picks and struck out swinging on all three: Damione Lewis at 12, Adam Archuleta at 20, and Ryan Pickett at 29. Steve Hutchinson, Casey Hampton, Deuce McCallister, Reggie Wayne, Todd Heap, Chad Johnson, Adrian Wilson&hellip; all players we passed on that could have changed the history of the Rams organization.
    Disagree in Pickett.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie25 View Post

    Based on that theory, if Clowney were to absolutely dominate at the Combine would you consider drafting him at 2 if he's available?
    No. Chris Long has many productive years ahead of him. Faulk, in 2004, did not.

    Nice try.

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    Re: My Own Best Picks in Rams History

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    No. Chris Long has many productive years ahead of him. Faulk, in 2004, did not.

    Nice try.
    Wasn't "trying" to do anything, was just asking a honest question. Mighty defensive, aren't you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie25 View Post

    Wasn't "trying" to do anything, was just asking a honest question. Mighty defensive, aren't you...
    Not at all.

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    Re: My Own Best Picks in Rams History

    >>Everyone had SJ as the top back that year, but when I mocked the Rams taking a RB in Round 1, you said I was crazy because we still had Faulk.>>

    Right A RUNNING back, which meant Chris Perry or Kevin Jones that year in mocks. I didn't think either of them was a franchise back at all, but I loved SJ 39. Would the Rams have made out taking one of those other RBs? If you were GM you would have taken them over say CB Chris Gamble, TE Ben Watson, LB Karlos Dansby, or guard Chris Snee, the guys I had the Rams looking at as the BPA when they were set to pick in 2004.

    I don't need memory to recall this stuff, as I have printed articles out there every year just about, with my draft picture for the Rams clearly spelled out.

    Again, the Rams realistically had no shot at Jackson, and barely were able to with a trade up, because of the number of teams expected to look RB that year in the top 20.

    You may be too stuck on your wanting to discredit me to even see what I am saying here.

    Now if you had said, the Rams should look at Steven Jackson if HE is there when they picked, I would have said, keep wishing, because it won't happen.

    What you said was they should take ANY RB that fell, and that WOULD have been nuts that year.

    When it did turn out that they could make a run at SJ39 for a low cost , I was very happy, as Jackson was by far the BPA THEN.

    Also, it's amazing that you seem to have an exact memory from 10 years ago.

    I'd like to see some proof of what you said I said, and if I mentioned Jackson as the RB I did not want. Otherwise it's totally inadmissable, hearsay, VERY OLD hearsay. You should KNOW that eh?

    Are you one of those freaks like Marilu Henner who remembers every single day of her life since childhood like it happened yesterday?

    You are wrong this time, so just drop it and move on to yet ANOTHER attempt to somehow make me non-credible here, on a fan FORUM.

    Get Napoleon syndrome much?

    Did you have SJ39 as the back you mocked?

    If not, then I rest my case. Because then you would have wasted the pick on Kevin Jones or Chris Perry.
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    I never said they should take ANY running back. That's just silly.

    I had SJ going before the Rams' selection, and the Rams taking Perry (who was derailed by injuries, not lack of talent).

    I have no interest in discrediting you, Barry. But when you claim that every pick you favored ended up working out, and every one you didn't like turned out to be a bust... well, let's just say that the truth sometimes needs a spokesman.

    I'll say no more. Resume your self back patting fest.
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    Re: My Own Best Picks in Rams History

    I remember when Damione Lewis looked so good in camp, then got hurt on a cheap shot in a scrimmage against the Titans , and he just never was the same. Pickett was a solid pick, and Archie played well enough to get a huge FA deal in Washington, so.......

    Plus 2001 was a bad year to have three #1 picks, unless one was top six, where you could get LaDainian Tomlinson, Mike Vick, Justin Smith,

    Look at just some of the top 15 #1 picks
    2 T Leonard Davis
    3 DT Gerard Warren
    8 WR David Terrell
    9 WR Koren Robinson
    10 DE Jamal Reynolds
    14 T Kenyatta Walker
    15 WR Rod Gardner
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    Re: My Own Best Picks in Rams History

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Waller View Post
    I remember when Damione Lewis looked so good in camp, then got hurt on a cheap shot in a scrimmage against the Titans , and he just never was the same. Pickett was a solid pick, and Archie played well enough to get a huge FA deal in Washington, so.......

    Plus 2001 was a bad year to have three #1 picks, unless one was top six, where you could get LaDainian Tomlinson, Mike Vick, Justin Smith,

    Look at just some of the top 15 #1 picks
    2 T Leonard Davis
    3 DT Gerard Warren
    8 WR David Terrell
    9 WR Koren Robinson
    10 DE Jamal Reynolds
    14 T Kenyatta Walker
    15 WR Rod Gardner
    Yeah definitely true, the 2001 draft was very top heavy. I never really like the Lewis pick, I thought Hampton was a better fit as a run-stopper next to the pass rushing DE's we had at the time. I did like the Archuleta pick, I thought he was going to be a stud in the secondary. Pickett turned out to be a serviceable player, but I had Kris Jenkins rated higher as a DT. I also liked Alge Crumpler at the time and thought the Rams needed a good young pass catching TE to complement their receivers.

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    Re: My Own Best Picks in Rams History

    Why are you two always fighting each other?

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