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    No Suh for you!

    I've been doing some thinking, and I don't think I can go through another season with an average or late round quarterback as out future.

    Suh is ***THE*** most coveted player in the draft. We control his fate, and we get what want in whatever trade there is. Everyone in the league would love to have him, but Suh as a DT cannot make the same impact as a franchise, Manning/Brady/Breesesque QB.

    TRADE DOWN! Even if only a few spots, we still get Bradford or Clausen, we pull off a Chargers/Giants type trade and get all sorts of picks to fill ALL the holes we have.

    PASS ON SUH! TRADE DOWN!


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    Re: No Suh for you!

    What makes you think Bradford or Claussen are the next best QBs?


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    Re: No Suh for you!

    Simple Solution: Sign Mike Vick for two years and Draft Suh. Look for Locker in 2011 draft....

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyramsfan View Post
    Simple Solution: Sign Mike Vick for two years and Draft Suh. Look for Locker in 2011 draft....
    been my thoughts since week 1.

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyramsfan View Post
    Simple Solution: Sign Mike Vick for two years and Draft Suh. Look for Locker in 2011 draft....
    But that makes our offense worse.....

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    I find it funny that you include Brees and Brady in your argument.

    Brees was drafted at the end of the second round.

    Brady was drafted in the sixth round.

    Your draft position does not guarantee success.

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    sign Pennington for a one year deal. hold off one more year for a qb or look for whosever available in the second

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyramsfan View Post
    Simple Solution: Sign Mike Vick for two years and Draft Suh. Look for Locker in 2011 draft....
    Better solution, sign pennington, campbell, or orton to a two year contract, so we actually have a decent QB to try and mentor a round 2 or 3 pick

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    yeah pennington, campbell or even garcia could come in and play for a year or two at least - campbell could possibly be a long-term answer.

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by 01d 0rd3r View Post
    Better solution, sign pennington, campbell, or orton to a two year contract, so we actually have a decent QB to try and mentor a round 2 or 3 pick
    Orton is restricted CBA or not. Pennington no thanks. I would like Campbell, I think he is the best possible option, but what does the new coach do with him?

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyramsfan View Post
    Simple Solution: Sign Mike Vick for two years and Draft Suh. Look for Locker in 2011 draft....
    If I had a crystall ball and I knew Locker would be there for the Rams in 2011, then I'd do it in a second. Alas, we aren't privy to that information, which is exactly why teams draft a QB when they can regardless of who is coming out the following year.

    As for the original question, there is no franchise QB in this draft IMO. If Bradford hadn't gotten injured and he proved he could perform behind a sub-par line this season, then he would be that franchise guy. I still think spending a top 8 pick on one of them (depending how far back we trade if we went in that direction) is a bit of a risk. Unless we are overwhelmed with an offer, I would stay put and draft Suh.

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    Unless the offer is amazing - and though Suh is highly regarded, I don't think it will be because of the contract cost and the cost in picks - then I probably would not move out of the top spot.

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by peramoure View Post
    I've been doing some thinking, and I don't think I can go through another season with an average or late round quarterback as out future.

    Suh is ***THE*** most coveted player in the draft. We control his fate, and we get what want in whatever trade there is. Everyone in the league would love to have him, but Suh as a DT cannot make the same impact as a franchise, Manning/Brady/Breesesque QB.

    TRADE DOWN! Even if only a few spots, we still get Bradford or Clausen, we pull off a Chargers/Giants type trade and get all sorts of picks to fill ALL the holes we have.

    PASS ON SUH! TRADE DOWN!
    We'll still be able to get a decent QB in the top of round 2 and get King Kong... why not do that?

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    Who says there will be a QB in the 2nd? We thought Freeman would fall and the Bucs took him in the late first round.

    Suh is the best player. Period. Everyone wants him, which is why we capitalize, pick up another first rounder to move back a few picks, and we get a quarterback early. I can't take another season of garbage offense and a "stopgap" at quarterback.

    So we get Vick and don't make the playoffs. We wait for Locker or whoever the supposed franchise guy is next year.

    So we get Campbell and don't make the playoffs. We wait for Locker or whoever the supposed franchise guy is next year.

    So we get Pennington and don't make the playoffs. We wait for Locker or whoever the supposed franchise guy is next year.

    Then what? We rebuild around a rookie quarterback NEXT year and extend this project?

    Lets make the most of the first overall. We will get a helluva deal in this bidding war for Suh, and Clausen or Bradford are the overwhelming favorites as best quarterback. We need to fill more holes than DT, and all of you know that. Suh isn't going to make this defense a perennial powerhouse, just like Glenn Dorsey (or Jimmy Kennedy, or Ryan, or Carriker, or Long or any of these superstar DLineman have) did.

    Do you guys remember the hype around Chris Long? Dorsey? Any of these guys aforementioned? Suh is the best, clearly, among these guys. We know that. But I would rather roll the dice on a franchise QB, get extra picks and probably ANOTHER first rounder for next year to move back.

    Done.

    Adios

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    Re: No Suh for you!

    And seriously, think about it. Chargers and Giants for instance, in the dumps, go get Manning and Rivers. Both are competitors for the superbowl. The quarterback has the ball EVERY play, and Suh might make an impact on 20-30% of plays.

    Super Bowl winners. Trend here?



    1993 Cowboys - Aikman
    1994 Cowboys - Aikman
    1995 ***** - Young
    1996 Cowboys - Aikman
    1997 Packers - Favre
    1998 Broncos - Elway
    1999 Broncos - Elway
    2000 Rams - Warner
    2001 Ravens - Dilfer
    2002 Patriots - Brady
    2003 Bucs - Brad Johnson (22TDs, 6 picks)
    2004 Patriots - Brady
    2005 Patriots - Brady
    2006 Steelers - Ben R
    2007 Colts - Manning
    2008 Giants - Manning
    2009 Steelers - BenR

    You tell me an *average* QB can take this team somewhere. Suh can't make our QB any better, and he damned well isn't going to magically pick the defense up and make us playoff bound (like we've predicted with Long, Carriker, blah blah blah)

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