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    The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    Put all Combine-related talk in here!

    QUARTERBACKS (Sun, Feb. 22)
    Code:
    Name                 Hgt        Wgt    Arms        Hands       40-yd    Bench   Vert    Broad    Shuttle     3-Cone
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    Matthew Stafford     6'2 1/4    225    33 1/4      10          4.81      --     30.5"    8'11"      --         --
    Mark Sanchez         6'2 1/8    227    33 1/2      10 1/2      4.94      --     32.5"    9'8"      4.21        -- 
    Josh Freeman         6'5 3/4    248    32 3/4      10          4.97      --     33.5"    9'11"     4.43        --
    Nate Davis           6'1 3/8    226    32           9 1/2      4.98      --      --       --        --         --
    Rhett Bomar          6'2 1/4    225    32           9          4.82      25      --       --       4.06       6.91
    Chase Daniel         6'0        218    28 3/4       9 1/4      4.92      --      --       --       4.31        --
    Pat White            6'0 1/4    197    33 1/2       9 1/4      4.55      --     35"      9'9"      4.42       7.06
    Hunter Cantwell      6'4 3/8    235    33 1/4      10 1/4      5.15      --      --       --        --         --
    Tom Brandstater      6'5        220    31 1/4       9 1/2      4.95      --      --       --       4.37       6.93
    Curtis Painter       6'2 7/8    225    33 1/4       9 1/4      4.99      --      --       --        --        7.00

    RUNNING BACKS (Sun, Feb. 22)

    Halfbacks
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    Name                 Hgt        Wgt    Arms        Hands       40-yd    Bench   Vert    Broad    Shuttle     3-Cone
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    Chris Wells          6'1        235    33 5/8      10          4.59      25     33.5"   10'8"       --         --
    Knowshon Moreno      5'10 5/8   217    30 3/4      10          4.63      25     35 1/2"  --        4.27       6.84
    LeSean McCoy         5'10       198    31 3/4       8 7/8       --       --      --      --         --         --
    Shonn Greene         5'10 1/2   227    31 3/4       8 1/2      4.72      19     37"     10'1"       --         --
    Donald Brown         5'10 1/4   210    31 1/2       9          4.51      --     41.5"   10'5"      4.10       6.93
    James Davis          5'11       218    30 1/2      10          4.60      17      --      --         --         --
    Javon Ringer         5'9 1/8    205    30 3/4       9 5/8      4.60      23      --      --        4.11       6.87
    Mike Goodson         5'11 7/8   208    32 1/4       9 7/8      4.54      14     39.5"    9'10"     4.22       6.89
    Andre Brown          6'0 1/8    224    32 1/8       9 3/4      4.49      24     37"      --         --         --
    Jeremiah Johnson     5'8 7/8    209    30 3/4       9 1/4      4.67      20      --      --         --         --
    Fullbacks
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    Name                 Hgt        Wgt    Arms        Hands       40-yd    Bench   Vert    Broad    Shuttle     3-Cone
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    Quinn Johnson        6'0 3/4    246    32 1/2      10 3/8      4.86      16      --      --         --         --
    Tony Fiammetta       6'0 1/8    245    31           9 3/8      4.61      30      --      --         --         --
    Brannan Southerland  6'0        242    32 3/4       9 1/4      4.68      28      38"    10'0"       --         --
    Jason Cook           5'11 1/4   244    33 1/4      10 3/8       --       21      --      --         --         --

    WIDE RECEIVERS (Sun, Feb. 22)
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    Name                 Hgt        Wgt    Arms        Hands       40-yd    Bench   Vert    Broad    Shuttle     3-Cone
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    Michael Crabtree     6'1 3/8    215    34 1/4       9 1/4       --       --      --       --        --         --
    Jeremy Maclin        6'0        198    32 1/4       9 1/4      4.45
    Percy Harvin         5'11       192    31 5/8       9 3/8      4.41      19      --       --       4.12        --
    Darius Heyward-Bey   6'2        195    33 5/8       9          4.30      16     38.5"   10'6"      4.18       6.80
    Kenny Britt          6'2 7/8    218    34           9          4.47      23     37.0"   10'4"       --         -- 
    Hakeem Nicks         6'1        212    33 1/2      10 1/2      4.54      --      --       --        --         -- 
    Derrick Williams     5'11       197    31           9 1/4      4.64      15      --       --        --         --
    Juaquin Iglesias     6'1        210    31           9 1/2      4.56      --      --       --        --         --
    Brian Robiskie       6'3        209    31 1/2       9 5/8      4.51      --     37.5"     --       4.19       6.72 
    Louis Murphy         6'2        203    33 5/8      10	       4.43      12      --       --        --         --
    Ramses Barden        6'6        229    34 1/2      10 3/4      4.61      17      --       --        --         --

    TIGHT ENDS (Sat, Feb. 21)
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    Name                 Hgt      Wgt    Arms        Hands     40-yd    Bench   Vert    Broad    Shuttle     3-Cone
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    Brandon Pettigrew    6'5 3/8  263    34 7/8     10 3/4     4.85      22      33"     9'10"     4.37        --
    Jared Cook           6'4 3/4  246    35 3/4     10 1/4     4.50      23      41"    10'3"       --         --
    Shawn Nelson         6'5      240    34 1/2     10         4.56      19      33"     9'7"       --        6.96	
    Chase Coffman        6'5 3/4  244    33 1/2      9 3/4      --       --      --       --        --         --
    Travis Beckum        6'3      243    34          9          --       28	     --       --        --         --
    Cornelius Ingram     6'3 5/8  245    34 1/2      9 3/4     4.68      21      33"     9'2"       --        7.12	
    James Casey          6'3      246    30 5/8      9 1/2     4.71      28      36"     9'3"       --        7.00

    OFFENSIVE LINE (Sat, Feb. 21)

    Offensive Tackles
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    Name                 Hgt      Wgt    Arms        Hands     40-yd    Bench   Vert    Broad    Shuttle     3-Cone
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    Jason Smith          6'5      309    33 3/4      9 3/4     5.22      33      --       --        --        7.53	
    Eugene Monroe        6'5 1/4  309    33 7/8     11 1/8     5.16      23      --      9'2"       --         --
    Andre Smith          6'4      332    35 3/8      9 3/4      --       --      --       --        --         --
    Michael Oher         6'4      309    33 1/2     10 3/8     5.32      21     30.5      --       4.60        --
    William Beatty       6'6      309    34 3/4     10         5.12      27     33.5     8'11"      --        7.62
    Eben Britton         6'6      309    32 3/4     10 1/4     5.16      24      --       --        --         --
    Jamon Meredith       6'5      304    34 1/2     10         5.04      31      --      8'9"       --         --
    Troy Kropog          6'5      309    33 1/4     10 1/8     5.32      21      --       --        --         --
    Phil Loadholt        6'8      343    36 1/2     10         5.54	     --      --       --        --         --
    Jason Watkins        6'6      318    34 3/8     10 1/2     5.47      18      --       --        --         --
    Offensive Guards
    Code:
    Name                 Hgt      Wgt    Arms        Hands     40-yd    Bench   Vert    Broad    Shuttle     3-Cone
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    Duke Robinson        6'5      329    34 3/4     10 5/8     5.27      --      --       --        --         --
    Andy Levitre         6'3      305    32 1/2      9 1/2     5.26      23     30.5      --       4.52        --
    Trevor Canfield      6'5      307    32          9 1/4     5.32      29      --       --        --         --
    Kraig Urbik          6'5      328    33 3/4     10 1/4     5.41      29      --       --        --         --
    Herman Johnson       6'7 1/4  364    36 1/2     11 3/8     5.53      21      --       --        --         --	
    Greg Isdaner         6'4      325    32 1/2      9 3/4     5.45      24      --       --        --         --
    Louis Vasquez        6'5      333    34 3/4     10 3/8      --       39      --       --        --         --
    Centers
    Code:
    Name                 Hgt      Wgt    Arms        Hands     40-yd    Bench   Vert    Broad    Shuttle     3-Cone
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    Alex Mack            6'4      311    33         10 3/4      --       --      --       --        --         --
    Max Unger            6'5      309    32 1/2      9 1/4     5.27      22      --       --       4.50       7.39
    Eric Wood            6'4      310    33 3/4     10 3/8     5.17      30     30.5      --       4.51       7.56
    Jonathan Luigs       6'4      301    31 1/4      9 1/4     5.14      26      31       --        --         --
    Antoine Caldwell     6'3      309    34         10 1/2     5.23      24      --	     9'3"       --         --
    A.Q. Shipley         6'1      304    29 3/4      8 1/2     5.19      33      31       --       4.40       7.46
    DEFENSIVE LINE (Mon, Feb. 23)


    LINEBACKERS (Mon, Feb. 23)


    DEFENSIVE BACKS (Tues, Feb. 24)
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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    A couple of nuggets from Rotoworld regarding weigh-ins...

    Arizona OT Eben Britton measured 6'6/309 at Thursday's Combine weigh-in.
    309 is a popular weight. These tackles will likely pack on another 10-20 pounds before the season starts. They've shed it to run faster forty times.
    Virginia LT Eugene Monroe measured 6'5 1/4 and 309 pounds at the NFL Combine weigh-in Thursday.
    Monroe, battling Andre Smith and Jason Smith to be the first left tackle off the board, is tallest of the three. He's shed six lbs since the Senior Bowl.
    Baylor LT Jason Smith measured 6'5/309 at Thursday's Combine weigh-in.
    He was listed at 6'5/305 in college. The height is OK, but Smith needs to show he can run block from a three-point stance in drills. Smith played out of a two-point stance only after converting from TE as a redshirt sophomore.
    Alabama OT Andre Smith measured 6'4/332 at Thursday's Combine weigh-in.
    This is guard size, and maybe right tackle size in a run-heavy scheme. Smith played left tackle in college, but his footwork and history of weight issues are huge question marks. We doubt he's a realistic candidate to go first overall.

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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    Alabama OT Andre Smith measured 6'4/332 at Thursday's Combine weigh-in.
    I'm curious to see the wingspan on this guy. He's only an inch shorter than the other prospects, so his wingspan might not be that far off. Curious to see anyway.

    What concerns me is that weight. If he's 332 at the Combine, I bet he walks around at 340 or better. I was expecting him to hit Indy at closer to 320.
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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    Baylor LT Jason Smith measured 6'5/309 at Thursday's Combine weigh-in.
    Okay, Jason.....you have my attention.
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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    Nick Wagoner has a Combine blog going on StLouisRams.com. Its worth checking out.

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    All the rumors started about J. Smith when that espn reporter (i belive it was mike mayock correct me if im wrong) rated him as the best OT. And then in a mock draft he put J.Smith going to the Rams

    He is a DUMB****.

    Billy Deavany wants to make us BIGGER, STRONGER, AND MORE PHYSICAL. How does J. Smith fit into any of those? He is an athletic OT.

    Andre Smith fits in all of those criterias.

    Eugene Monroe is doesnt really fit into any of those criteras either but i perfer him cuz of consistency. (Deavany take this guy #2)


    It would sux if we take J. Smith just cuz of his combine. We all know he will be the most athletic OT in the combine and his 40 time and vertical might blow the competition away but still the in not use to an NFL type of stace and is not consistent or physical.

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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    Combine Snap Judgments: Lions eye tackles, not QBs, with first pick
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    Thursday February 19, 2009 5:49PM
    Updated: Thursday February 19, 2009 10:06PM

    INDIANAPOLIS -- Musings, observations and the occasional insight from on scene at the 2009 NFL Scouting Combine, which has morphed into the league's all-purpose kick start to all things having to do with personnel acquisition season....

    • It took a good 45 minutes or so into my four-day stay here in Indy, but I'm convinced I've already figured out the biggest riddle of this year's NFL draft season: What, pray tell, will the Detroit Lions do with the first overall pick on April?

    After careful analysis of every syllable uttered to the media by new Lions head coach Jim Schwartz on Thursday morning in the bowels of Lucas Oil Stadium, where the combine has relocated to this year, I'm willing to guarantee that Detroit isn't taking a quarterback with its No. 1 pick. Okay, guarantee is a little much. Let's just say I'm pretty sure. Make that reasonably certain. Could I get by with calling it a very strong hunch?

    I will admit it's entirely possible I was pre-disposed to come to such a conclusion, given that I gave Detroit an offensive tackle -- Alabama's Andre Smith -- last month in my inaugural mock draft of the year. But after hearing Schwartz describe the needs of his 0-16 team, the boom-bust factor at the top of the draft, and his time-tested philosophy of building a roster from the inside out (read the offensive and defensive lines first), I'm willing to go on record stating that I'll be shocked if the Lions tap a quarterback like Georgia's Matthew Stafford or Southern Cal's Mark Sanchez first overall.

    So, there you have it. Please, no more calls, we have a winner. The Lions are going to select one of the draft's several highly rated offensive tackles with the first pick, and that's that. As for exactly who, check back with me a bit later. Say, April 24th or so.

    All kidding aside, I didn't think it took a rocket scientist -- or even a particularly sharp NFL writer -- on Thursday to discern the way the Lions appear to be leaning early on in draft season. Give a listen to Schwartz when asked for his take on the dubious distinction of picking in the top slot:

    "This is my 16th year in the NFL and it's my first experience with it -- and hopefully my last,'' Schwartz said. "It is a different animal. I've compared it a little bit to playing blackjack. You can go play blackjack in Vegas, and play $5 tables, and play for a couple hours and make bad decisions and lose $100 and have some fun. You go play at the $5,000, or $10,000 table and you're making bad decisions, you're walking home. You're not flying home. You've got to add that into the equation. Not only is it an opportunity to get a great player. But you need to make sure.''

    Make no mistake, Schwartz's Lions are at the big-money table this year, holding the No. 1 pick for the first time since they selected Billy Sims in 1980. Last year's No. 1 pick, Miami offensive tackle Jake Long, got $30 million in guarantees in his rookie contract, and that figure won't drop this time around.

    That's why you need to make sure at the top of the draft, and does anyone out there think the track record of picking highly rated offensive tackles isn't safer on the whole than picking highly rated quarterbacks? That said, the Lions own two first-rounders this year, their own and No. 20 (which came from Dallas in the Roy Williams trade), and they very well could address the game's most crucial position with that second No. 1 (Kansas State's Josh Freeman?)

    But the Lions rolling the dice on a junior quarterback like Stafford or Sanchez selected first overall? I just can't see it happening. Schwartz might as well move over to those high-roller blackjack tables and start playing two hands at a time.

    At no point did the Lions rookie head coach say quarterback was not an option at the top of the draft, but he really didn't have to if you listened to what he was saying. Like when I asked him about the conventional wisdom within the league about building a team from the inside out, which I happen to know he buys into.

    "I've said before, we're going to build the team like it's an outdoor team,'' Schwartz said. "We're not going to build it to be a dome team. This is a great dome, and Ford Field is a great dome. But the fact is that we have to go to Lambeau, probably in December. We'll have to go to Chicago, maybe for a game that might mean the playoffs. You need to be big and physical, run the ball and stop the run when the weather gets bad. When you look at Tennessee and other places I've been, if you're strong on the offensive and defensive line, you'll be consistent from week to week.

    "That doesn't leave you. You can have a dominant skill player, but he might get hurt one week or the wind might be blowing, like it was in Buffalo when New England played up there, and you can't throw the ball. Or the footing might be bad and the running back can't make his yards. But offensive line and defensive line will make you consistent from week to week.''

    Does that sound like a guy about to tie his and the franchise's fortunes to a quarterback at No. 1? There's plenty of subterfuge practiced at this time of year in the NFL, but by my way of thinking, Detroit's dismal history of drafting first-round skill-position players this decade only reduces the chances of the Lions spending their top pick on a passer. Or have you already forgotten Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, and the aforementioned Roy Williams?

    "You mean Calvin Johnson?'' quipped Schwartz, when I mentioned the Lions' recent first-round draft busts. "I'm going to stress the positive. You're not going to hear me speak a lot about what happened in years past.''

    But then I rephrased my question for Schwartz, asking him if the boom-bust factor in the first round was even steeper with skill players?

    "Probably,'' he admitted. "You probably do have a chance to get that impact player, but it probably is safer, if you're talking about left tackle or a defensive lineman, stuff like that.

    "The whole boom-bust thing, not many fans or people in the media know if the left tackle has been a bust or not. If he's starting, it's hard for them to assign blame for a sack or something like that.''

    All the more reason to be thinking about an offensive tackle like Virginia's Eugene Monroe, Alabama's Smith, Baylor's Jason Smith or Mississippi's Michael Oher with the top pick, especially given that there are no defensive linemen deemed No. 1 worthy. Less pressure and fewer eyes trained upon every little move that a franchise quarterback makes is probably something that sounds kind of appealing to Schwartz as he starts his NFL head coaching career with the mother of all rebuilding jobs.

    "We need everything,'' he said. "There's a reason the record was what it was last year. It wasn't because of bad luck or a rash of injuries. There's a lot of work that needs to be done.''

    But I now refuse to believe that work will begin with the quarterback position in Detroit this offseason. And you can take that to the bank, even at the ridiculously early juncture of Feb. 19, before the combine has even really gotten rolling.

    No ifs, ands, or maybes about it.

    I think.

    • The most bizarre thing I heard at the combine player media interviews Thursday was easily Oher's admission that he hasn't even read "The Blind Side,'' the book that noted author Michael Lewis wrote about Oher, his college recruitment, and the evolution of the offensive left tackle position into one of the top-paying jobs in the NFL.

    Oher, of Mississippi, had a remarkably tough background growing up and was described in the book as the reclusive son of a drug-addicted single mom who suddenly became one of the most prized football prospects in the nation.

    "I haven't read it, but hearing what a lot of people say about it, I think it was fairly accurate,'' Oher told the media. "I think it was a good book though.''

    And why exactly hasn't he read it? "He (Lewis) talked to me about a lot of the stuff, and went over a lot of things. I felt I didn't need to read it.''

    • Both Stafford and Sanchez aren't thought of as the most accurate of quarterbacks -- at least not when measured against last year's two first-round QBs, Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. I loved what Saints head coach Sean Payton had to say about the accuracy issue when it comes to grading quarterback prospects. It means everything.

    "It's a very simple statement, but the quarterback needs to be accurate,'' said Payton, who has one of the NFL's most accurate passers in Drew Brees. "I don't want to hear about how he's going to become more accurate. Generally he's got to be someone who can target and find his throws and you don't want to be holding your breath in your 7 on 7's, with some guy throwing 50 percent. He needs to complete every ball (in those drills), with maybe one or two on the ground, that's it.''

    Let's just say Stafford and Sanchez have some ground to make up in that department.

    • Give Alabama offensive tackle Andre Smith the master of the obvious award in the early going of this combine. Smith was asked Thursday if he would embrace being part of the solution in Detroit, if the Lions took him first overall?

    "I would look forward to going there and competing, have a great atmosphere in the locker room, and not be a cancer to the team,'' Smith said.

    Good to know he has no intention of being a locker room cancer. That's a positive on every team's scouting report.

    • I'll say this much for this year's crop of highly rated offensive tackles, they don't lack for confidence. Baylor's Jason Smith, not to be confused with Alabama's Andre Smith, was asked if his goal is to prove himself the best "Smith'' at the combine?

    "Not the best Smith -- the best offensive tackle,'' he said. "I'd say first of all, put on my film from Baylor and you'll see that I'm the best. That's it.''

    Any flaws, or bad habits?

    "I can't think of any.''

    Virginia's Eugene Monroe isn't the shy type either. When asked why he should be the draft's first tackle selected, he didn't hesitate.

    "I think over my career at Virginia I've proven I can block anybody,'' Monroe said.

    Monroe also had this unintentional beaut -- at least I think it was unintentional -- when asked why Virginia has had so many NFL draftees in recent years?

    "I believe that (Cavaliers head coach) Al Groh runs our program with a level of professionalism second to none,'' Monroe said.

    Oh, really? Someone call the NCAA's compliance office.

    • I'm told that Baylor's Smith is an absolute monster when it comes to power blocking, and the converted tight end loves the part of his job that allows him to manhandle his opponents. He didn't waste much time speaking to that reputation at the combine.

    "When I'm on the field, I take a lot of pride in physically assaulting somebody,'' Smith said. "As far as finishing them off, that's just a part of the block. So you don't really think too much of it, because that's what you go on the field to do. It's something I practice real hard at, and I practice real hard at practicing. And when it's game time, it just happens.''

    • Nothing about franchise-tag day really surprised me -- with the exception of Pittsburgh once again lavishing offensive tackle Max Starks with a salary equal to the average of the top five highest paid offensive linemen in the league last year.

    I get that Pittsburgh had to protect itself, given that its top three tackles were all free-agent eligible this year, and that tackle Marvel Smith's back problems have rendered him a question mark the past two years. But $8.451 million for a guy who has been considered a backup in each of the past two seasons? Last year, Starks was given the Steelers' transition tag, at $6.985 million.

    Suffice to say there's no sign of any economic downturn in the Starks household.

    • You know who's happy about Julius Peppers playing the game he's playing in Carolina? Jordan Gross, that's who. Because the Panthers were being backed into a corner by Peppers, who wants out of Carolina in the worst way, they were almost forced to get a deal done with Gross at any cost. That way Carolina had the franchise tag available to slap on Peppers, in order to either try and trade him, or somehow coax him to camp later this year.

    Don't get me wrong. Gross is a very good player. But until last year, he was hardly considered to be the kind of dominant left tackle who had played his way into the elite echelon of the league. Has he now? Maybe. But there's little doubt that's what he's being paid like at this point, thanks to a six-year deal that includes a record-for-offensive-lineman $30.5 million guaranteed in the first three years.

    • Quote of the day: From Dolphins head coach Tony Sparano, when asked if he was surprised at the widespread use of the Dolphins' Wildcat formation last season:

    "I was pretty surprised, to be honest with you. At the end of this, I wish I had a dollar for every person who ran it.''

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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    From Scout.com

    When Baylor OT Jason Smith stood at the podium this afternoon, he definitively stated, “I’m the best OT in the draft and I don’t think I have any flaws.”

    Those are words that the Baylor standout will have to live up to this weekend, as he told the assembled that he would perform in all of the workouts tomorrow.

    “I’m doing everything [on Friday],” he said. I’m here to work.”

    Smith, who started out at Baylor as a tight end, switched to tackle shortly after he scored the lone touchdown of his career. Of the four top tackles available in the draft, Smith is the most athletic of the group and has the potential to have an impact like Ryan Clady had with the Denver Broncos last season.

    In saying that he’s the best tackle in the draft, it was interesting to learn that Smith didn’t speak with any of the teams selecting in the top-three (Detroit Lions, St. Louis Rams and Kansas City Chiefs) last night. But he did talk with the Seattle Seahawks, who hold the No. 4 selection.

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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    If anyone is on Twitter and wants updates follow @PostSports - it's Football Outsiders own Doug Farrar who is 'tweeting' regular updates.

    You can also follow me, @RossMiles, for all Rams news I can find!

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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    Billy Deavany wants to make us BIGGER, STRONGER, AND MORE PHYSICAL. How does J. Smith fit into any of those? He is an athletic OT.

    Andre Smith fits in all of those criterias.
    If by BIGGER, you mean heavier.....then yea, Andre Smith is bigger. But lacks in height and more importantly reach (I assume, I haven't heard the numbers yet). In that regard, Andre Smith is the smallest of the 4, and that is why some are saying he is a Guard at the next level (ala Leonard Davis). And IMO, Jason Smith may be the most physical of them all. Don't let the "converted TE" tag fool you, Jason Smith has the killer instinct that a top-tier LT has to have.
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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    I've been talking with Greg Kellogg over at Fantasy Sharks and he's asked if I'd like to be a guest on his podcast this Sunday (Fantasy Sharks on blogtalkradio) to discuss the Rams, the Combine etc...

    It's not 100% as we need to sort out a few things seeing as there is the time diff to consider (me being in the UK and all), but if it does go ahread, any topics you guys think I should raise or mention!!??

    It seems they would want me to call into the show, which would be pretty pricey for an hour from the UK... ho hum! Will have to investigate...
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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    According to Nick Wagoner's blog, Michael Crabtree is only a hair over 6'1, as opposed to 6'3, as previously reported.

    Interesting.

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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    According to Nick Wagoner's blog, Michael Crabtree is only a hair over 6'1, as opposed to 6'3, as previously reported.

    Interesting.
    That's going to make his pro day even more interesting. Is Crabtree still a top pick if he only measures in at 6'1" and runs a forty in the 4.5 range?

    For the record, Wagoner is reporting that Maclin measured in an inch shorter (6'0") but over 15 pounds lighter.

    I still love Crabtree's physical RAC presence on the field, but dropping him an inch or two in height is a small disappointment. At this point, I still see the Rams leaning OT with that first pick.

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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    Well... if Wagoner's report is correct, I think we can end the Crabtree = Fitzgerald stuff.

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    Re: The Official 2009 NFL Combine Thread

    Here's another report (Seattle Times) with the same information:

    February 20, 2009 6:54 AM
    Friday, NFL Combine coverage


    Posted by Danny O'Neil

    2:17 p.m. ET: Michael Crabtree wasn't quite as tall as expected. He measured 6-1.25, 215 pounds. He doesn't plan on running at the combine, instead waiting until next month.
    I agree with Nick... if he's only 6'1 and change, and runs a 4.5 or slower, I'm going to have a hard time getting behind him as a candidate for the second pick in the draft.

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