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    The Rams Win

    This is a scenario that I feel is plausible and fair, and I would find personally to be "best case" given my perspective. As I have said before, I think we can compete in our division immediately if we choose to adopt that mentality now.

    1.) Sam Bradford, QB
    -For better or worse he is gonna be our franchise QB

    2.) Albert Haynesworth, DT + their 4th (For our 2nd and Carriker)
    - Explaination: He is top 5 DT talent in the league, period, and he has got a lot left. He is proven, and I think Spags will get more out of him than anyone else. All signs point to Wash wanting him gone for two reasons. He doesn't fit their new scheme/direction, but Carricker does, and He is not happy there/ Shanny doesn't like him. With a rotation of Haynesworth, Robbins, and Ryan we are set for a while at DT (Spags specialty). * Note: nobody thinks we will stay home with ur 2nd pick

    3.) Ben Tate, RB
    - A phenomenal talent that is projected to be here in the 3rd (although he is rising fast), he has a lot of the strengths that SJAX has, but is a very different back. A great compliment to our running game, and could potentially take the load from Stephen in 2 or 3 years.

    4.) Osi Umenyiora (traded our 4th, 5th, and next years 5th)
    - We know what he is capable of under Spags, he is a pro-bowler. This price may seem steep, but my guess is that they really wanted our 3rd for him. Our 4th would not do it alone, and our 5th doesnt really sweeten the deal much. We have another 4th from our deal with Wash and already ahve another 5th, so we don't lose a round.


    4.) (from skins) Jimmy Graham, TE
    He is on the rise but is likely at this pick. A lot of organizations don't look at TE until the 3rd or 4th. We can all agree he'd be a great pickup, and that we need a playmaker TE for Bradford.


    5.) (not ours) Blair White, WR
    A guy that's on the rise, since the draft is so soaked with talent here we get lucky and he falls to us. Mike Williams may seem tempting, but Bradford and our offense don't need a guy with lots of potential, we need a guy that can make things happen and be there day in and day out. If a guy like Dezmon Briscoe, or Damian Williams was here I'd go there first, but I am sure they will be gone.

    6.) Myron Rolle, DB/S
    Great talent, character, and attitude. A true locker room guy that has, from all accounts, 2nd or 3rd round talent, but his intagibles force him here for a few reasons. He took a year off, and he has other interests. He is dedicated to football for now, and is surely worth our 6th! I know we havn't shown interest in him yet, but neither has anyone else. He will deffinately be here too, as there is talks of him going undrafted.


    7.) Marlon Williams, OLB

    A Big strong OLB with some upside. This guy could bring some serious run stopping power to our D, he could be rotational, or a 3 and out guy if he develops.

    7.) Justin Mincy, DE
    Great guy to develop, and to get snaps, behind Osi. Tons of upside, played in a big conference. Injury + depth at the position in the draft leave him available.


    This is definitely a possibility, I would be surprised if it works out this way, but honestly guys this would be great for us, and I don' think I'm too off-base with any of this. We could be very competitive with this line-up.

    QB: Bradford
    WR1: Avery/Gibson
    WR2: Robinson/White/Amendola
    RB: Jackson/Tate
    FB: Karney
    T: Smith
    G: Bell
    C: Brown
    G: Frailey/Goldberg
    T: Barron


    DE: Long
    DT: Haynesworth/Ryan
    DT: Robbins/ Scott
    DE: Umenyiora/ Mincy
    MLB: Laurentius
    OLB: Diggs
    OLB:Grant/Williams
    FS: Otogwye/Dahl
    SS: Butlerl/Rolle
    CB:Bartell
    CB:King/Dockery


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    Re: The Rams Win

    So....Haynesworth and a fourth=2nd+Carriker, but Osi=4,5,5

    Sorry, but you're way off in terms of value.

    And Haynesworth ain't happening, and should you really want it to?...you don't pay people $100 mil to behave the way he does.

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    Re: The Rams Win

    ^ I disagree about value.

    Osi's value is very low right now, and Haynesworth isn't as high as it once was (a 2nd and Carricker is a discount). Osi is a problem for NY, they want him gone, but they can't get screwed in doing it. 3 picks will get it done.

    The skins payed the big bucks for Haynesworth, we woudln't have to pay his obscene salary. Also, let me say this in regards to behavior, his behavior has gone this way because the Redskins program has been in such turmoil to this point that there has never been anyone to hold him accountable.
    I think he fits here better than anywhere, and I stand by my previous statement that Spags will get the most out of him.

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    Re: The Rams Win

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerBishop View Post
    ^ I disagree about value.

    Osi's value is very low right now, and Haynesworth isn't as high as it once was (a 2nd and Carricker is a discount). Osi is a problem for NY, they want him gone, but they can't get screwed in doing it. 3 picks will get it done.

    The skins payed the big bucks for Haynesworth, we woudln't have to pay his obscene salary. Also, let me say this in regards to behavior, his behavior has gone this way because the Redskins program has been in such turmoil to this point that there has never been anyone to hold him accountable.
    I think he fits here better than anywhere, and I stand by my previous statement that Spags will get the most out of him.
    Explain why Haynesworth's contract will magically disapear.

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    Re: The Rams Win

    What I was saying is that Haynesworth's value is too low, his contract does decrease his value though. Osi at this point, is not worth a 4,5,5, I was saying that Osi is worth a 3rd or 4th, only, not three picks.

    And I get you're point about his behavior, but bottom line, if he has those character issues, at all, you don't use that much cap space on him, even if he is a very good player. Spags might diminish this, but with this type of player there is always going to be the flare ups, and particularly for us, a losing team at this point, losing always seems to cause this sort of behavior (see T.O. for example).

    Bottom line, if you are going to pay that much, I want the whole package, and that includes character.
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    Re: The Rams Win

    You could be right, but I think when you evaluate the alternative solutions we get a better player with Haynesworth (if we could get him at that price), and think it's worth being a little risky now, it's not like we are winning a lot of games. Also, you could be right about Osi.

    As far as Haynesworth contract, the skins have payed a very large amount of his guaranteed money already, that's why so many teams are interested in him now (explanation given). We would end up with a much more suitable situation.

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