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    Re: Ranking the Safeties

    With the addition of Reynolds and Pryor, I'd say this is a pretty solid group of safety prospects.

    The suggestion that a safety can't come in and start as a rookie is belied by the fact that two of the final 8 teams in the NFL (San Francisco, New Orleans) had rookies starting at the position this year (Reid, Vacarro).

    I don't think anyone is advocating that the Rams "reach" for a safety due to need.


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    Re: Ranking the Safeties

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    With the addition of Reynolds and Pryor, I'd say this is a pretty solid group of safety prospects.

    The suggestion that a safety can't come in and start as a rookie is belied by the fact that two of the final 8 teams in the NFL (San Francisco, New Orleans) had rookies starting at the position this year (Reid, Vacarro).

    I don't think anyone is advocating that the Rams "reach" for a safety due to need.
    I wouldn't suggest that anyone is advocating reaching, but other than Clinton Dix I have yet to see or hear about any safety going in round 1. Plus, I don't think any safety in this class is close to Reid or Vacarro and I don't believe Vacarro started at the beginning of the year for NO (check me on this I may be mistaken).

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    I honestly think we'll know far more about these safeties after the Combine.

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    Re: Ranking the Safeties

    A lot of the current mocks have only one (Clinton-Dix) or two (Clinton-Dix and Pryor) safeties in the first round, but you have to remember that Reynolds only declared for the draft on Wednesday.

    As I said, barring a trade, I'd probably look to fill the safety slot in Round 2.

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    Re: Ranking the Safeties

    Okay, here's my look. What was the difference in the back end between 2012 and 2013? The loss of an all around good and aware safety in Mikell and replacing him with the rookie McDonald. Now, there was certainly a positive and a negative to this in that we got younger and replaced awareness and experience with a healthier body, but still one that missed time. Meanwhile Mikell went on to get picked up early in the season by the Panthers, and started for them as they were probably the second best defense in the league behind Seattle, where the defense had been Carolina's liability before.

    In today's passing league, you can't say that safeties are not important or are over-rated. Do we forget the Baltimore game from 2011, Torrey Smith's coming out party at the Dome? Where he just ran past our corners and our safeties to pick up 3 TD's in what, the first half? As was mentioned above, we had to play our corners off the LOS because we had no deep protection, which went against how our top three corners like to play. Don't we want to be able to trust our Safeties to cover over the top so that Jenkins can play aggressively and ge those turnovers like in 2012?

    I didn't see really any of McDonald's play this year, so I'm not exactly sure where his strengths lie, and it's not like McCloud sets the world on fire. You can't say that safety is our strong point on defense. I'd absolutely look at our 2nd round pick as a place where we could grab one of these guys, with the preference being Reynolds given my want for a dominant center fielder. If we trade out of the top 15 and Dix is available, I'd be inclined to take him unless someone provides better value(OL being the hope).
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    Re: Ranking the Safeties

    One other point that was brought up above, Fisher was indeed a defensive back, and so yes, he absolutely knows wat it takes to play the position. But despite this secondary experience, it was the weak point on the defense this year. I fully expect him to do what it takes to fix it, and by that I mean that I expect him to get another safety who can upgrade the back end. He had the inside info on McDonald last year, as he will on Dion Bailey this year. It's a possible pick up, but I doubt that he'll focus on his alma mater as his sole supplier for Safeties. I'll have faith in whomever he grabs though.
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    Re: Ranking the Safeties

    Quote Originally Posted by mde8352gorams View Post
    Are you willing to spend a draft pick on a player regardless of whether he's worthy of the position in the draft? I'm not. This is not a strong safety class in the draft, so the scouting reports and the evaluations are going to have to figure out if a prospect will blossom into a solid player. Furthermore, how do you think a rookie will perform vs a player who's been playing for several years. A good safety requires knowledge of what angles to take and how to play in space. Those things don't happen immediately, especially in a division playing the WR's we go up against 6x each season.

    Jeff Fisher played the position, he'll know what we can do to improve our pass coverage. In the meantime we can draft players who will make a difference for us as we'll need to improve our wins by at least 3-4 next year to contend for the playoffs.

    Go Rams!

    I get what you say, but it seems that many mocks are putting Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and Calvin Pryor there to be picked by the Rams at 13, some have Clinton-Dix gone before then. It's not uinreasonable to draft a safety that high at all. And I think you will see a seriously better pass defense this year if the Rams get a decent FS

    Now, I wouldn't rule out picking one up in free agency, but I think with the number of high draft picks, especially with a trade down if that happens, then the Rams have to be thinking about a safety in the first two rounds

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