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    RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    I will post the top 10, then top 20, then top 30 -- so keep checking back !!!!!

    Let me preface this by saying that I think the top 5 WRs are locked into the top 40 picks or so, and the rest are very close and could move from Round 5 to Round 2 based on team, tape, interviews, etc....

    I have the spreadsheets done, but think it is easier to read in the below form. I know many will disagree, but I have watched tape on all of the TOP 50 WR prospects/combine invitees.

    I will do some shuffling and have a final list the day or 2 before the draft but this is how I see it now. The Rankings are the way I evaluate the player's talent, and the PROJECTED PICK IS WHERE I THINK THEY WILL GO IN THE DRAFT.....

    So, HERE WE GO:

    RichTree’s 2012 Post-Combine Wide Receiver Rankings

    1. Justin Blackmon – There is no doubt he deserves to be the #1 WR off the board. His pro day showed his speed. Many comparisons to H. Nicks (like that’s a bad thing). Has long arms making up for some lack of height. He is not AJ Green or Julio Jones, but you will get a legit starter for 5-8 years. PROJ. PICK #4-6

    2. Stephen Hill – I have moved him into the #2 ranked WR for this draft by a slim margin. There are only 3 “elite” WRs this year and Hill is one of them. He has everything you want from a WR and if he played at Ok St, Baylor, or Texas Tech he would be mentioned in the same breath as Blackmon. Gtech helped him learn to block. He is the closest thing to AJ, Julio, Megaton, etc….His strength and lack of pass heavy production have scouts quietly hoping he will fall to them. “Win now” teams may pass on him for Floyd or a burner, but his upside is higher than Blackmons. PROJ. PICK #22

    3. Michael Floyd – He and Hill and really #2a and #2b either way depending on how far along your team is. Teams like Texans and Jets will want Floyd’s speed and strength to start game #1 and make an immediate impact. Teams like Carolina or Indy may prefer S.Hill for the long term potential. Either way these are the 3 elite WR’s and Floyd’s stock is rising due to the NFL rules favoring WRs over RBs in the new pass heavy league. Floyd YAC will be the best of the 3 making him not fall out of Round 1in any mock draft. PROJ. PICK #18

    4. Mohamed Sanu – Just an a 4.41 at Rutgers Pro Day. He won’t make it past the top of the second round. Probably pushes him ahead of Randle for teams like the Rams, Browns, etc. He has all the athletic tools and speed isn’t a question. He is a big guy that can get tough yards. He has that presence that just makes a QB feel comfortable throwing the ball to him in tight situations. BTW if you haven’t seen Brandon Coleman on Rutgers, in two years he will be the next Megatron, Fitz, A.Johnson. Sanu is the clear best of the rest. PROJ. PICK #34 (ehmmm, Rams).


    5. Tommy Streeter – I have him ranked #4 but I am sure most experts will disagree. He is a pure burner with height. His routes aren’t great yet, but has Plaxico frame. Size and speed make him a legit NFL player, but he needs a full year to develop the shorter routes that him make him an every down threat. His hands need alittle polish especially since he ran ‘go’ routes pretty much every down in college. I think he will go early round 2 but could fall to round 3. PROJ. PICK #42

    6. Rueben Randle – This guy is a football player. Doesn’t do any one thing great, but does everything good. He has size and a good IQ. He will be drafted higher than his ability because he is 100% dependable and can run block. He will start game #1 for some team next year. Solid player but what you see is what you get. His ceiling isn’t much higher than now. That makes him the wildcard, could fall quick like Hankerson did. Teams may want to pass because they could get similar player in McNutt/Criner a 2 rds later. PROJ. PICK #45

    7. Marvin Jones – This is where the draft gets tough. The “burners” of the draft are hard to evaluate this year. Marvin Jones has the best combo of speed with some height and strength. He is a S.Smith type of player and K. Wright and M. Sanu will be drafted ahead of him, but he is the best #2 type/burner of this class. He can actually block (unlike Wright), but feels like he only fits in certain systems. Has that H.Douglas feel and could be assest or tweener that falls. PROJ. PICK #48

    8. Ryan Broyles – This kid would be getting all the Kendall Wright headlines if he was healthy. You can’t say enough good things about him. His ACL is an injury concern, but he still benched 21 reps for 3rd most at the combine. His only concerns are injury and hand size, but I can only judge him based on what I see. PROJ. PICK #118

    9. AJ Jenkins – I prefer him over a few others but anyone projected in rounds 3-5 can move 20 picks based on team need, and if they like that guy. Jenkins has that Torrey Smith separation that could help many teams. He has really good hands and runs great routes. Has a little Deion Branch in him. PROJ. PICK #74

    10. Kendall Wright – This guys game is speed, speed, and speed. Josh Gordon left and RGIII helped this guy look great. I think he will be taken early in the draft, but RGIII has given this guy a million dollar contract. He is compared to Djax a lot, but I think he will have a hard time over the middle of the field. Wright chose not to bench press, and reminds me of Donnie Avery/Eddie Royal. He may not slip by Texans in rd. 1 but I grade him as a lower talent do to system driven success. PROJ. PICK # 26

    11. Alshon Jeffery – This guy had a first round grade on him at one time because of his combination of size, speed, and athletic ability. His pro day is tomorrow and his stock will continue to rise and could very easily rise to the #6 WR overall. A couple of issues had him falling to Round 2/3 but a strong pro day and a good vibe with scouts should have him back up to par. PROJ. PICK # 59

    12. Chris Givens – Has speed and is pretty solid. His speed has people even thinking he can get into the second round. Measured in 2.5 inches less than his listed 6ft 2inches. He is pretty solid on the deep ball but seems to have that Donte Stallworth feel. You want to put him higher, but he may be limited by his body type PROJ. PICK # 58

    13. Brian Quick – The App St small school guy is competing with Criner, McNutt, and Fuller for the big WR taken after big 60. I think Quick will win out showing more athletic maneuverability, but all of these guys are close and can play at the next level. This may come down to intangibles and the ability to compete in training camp. PROJ. PICK # 61

    14. Jeff Fueller – This guy has a high ceiling of the 4 mentioned above. He needs a year of NFL S & C. Texas A&M really didn’t know what they were doing on offense. Fueller has border line first round talent but could really benefit from someone mentoring him and explaining the benefit of routes and spacing. Lots of upside. PROJ. PICK # 69

    15. Chris Owusu – This guy put on a show at the combine. Odd that he didn’t have great stats with one of the best college QBs of all time. He is in the hybrid role and is sometimes hard to find the proper spot on the field. He is a little Randall Cobb in him, but is hands can be shaky. A weapon and liability at same time. PROJ. PICK #100

    16. Juron Criner – This guy has heart and makes catches. He held his own in all workouts. A former basketball player with huge hands makes me think he will probably end up more successful than the last 3 players I have ranked above. All he needs is to work as hard as he can and he will achieve. Criner would be the guy I want the Rams to get in the later rounds if he falls. Has that Gaffney / Lloyd feel of being a solid pro WR in the league. PROJ. PICK # 78

    17. Marvin McNutt – This is the hot name that has been rising up many draft boards. Only problem is that he doesn’t create his only plays. He is seen more as a consistent player that can excel only in the right system. PROJ. PICK # 89

    18. Nick Toon – Has the genes obviously, and has good intangibles. Does he have the speed and ATC ability to play at the NFL level. Problem with him and McNutt is that they may not have Special Team qualities to keep them on the opening rosters. PROJ. PICK # 81

    19. TY Hilton – Without injury concerns he could/would be a Top 10 WR in this class even coming from a small school. He will probably end up in Round 4 because too many small school guys fail and he needs to earn time. He is one of the few guys that can really come in and out of breaks…could be a steal PROJ. PICK # 111

    20. Jermaine Kearse – One of my favorite guys in this draft. He is great hands, and plays the game with crisp routes and high IQ. He is Lance Moore 2.0. The problem is Lance Moore needs to be used as slot, movement, system player. I really think a team with an accurate QB can use Kearse especially out of 4 WR sets. He gives you everything he has and can move in motion every play. PROJ. PICK # 118

    21. Danny Coale – A late round guy that actually can run routes. He is solid all-around and over 6ft tall. He may be good enough to contribute on Special Teams. PROJ. PICK # 121

    22. Greg Childs – Needs someone to have faith in his size and talent. He is a project with upside that could really fill out to be a strong NFL WR. PROJ. PICK # 113

    23. Tim Benford – He was thought to be a solid WR but is under 6ft. He is sliding down draft boards and really isn’t a combine highlight. He knows how to play the game, but may be a tad slow / tweener for the NFL. PROJ. PICK # 133

    24. Devon WhylieSpeed freak that would have Dante Hall value for Kickoffs if the NFL rules weren’t adjusted. A team will take a chance on him in the 5th round or so… PROJ. PICK # 148

    25. Rishard Matthews – Matthews and Posey are similar players. Posey is more known but Matthews has more upside. Your choice. PROJ. PICK # 169

    26. Dwight Jones – Big talent that is falling out of the draft due to the headaches and pain he gives every scout and NFL executive that he meets. PROJ. PICK # 174 (or FA)

    27. DeVier Posey— Solid player, Matthews and he are the slower version(s) of Nick Toon. Steve Smith (rams) type player gives these guys hope that they can succeed in NFL PROJ. PICK # 142

    28. TJ Graham— Fast but lightweight – he can be a specialist that actually can play WR as well. He could help a team add depth to Practice squad or KR/PR backup. PROJ. PICK # 187

    29. Gerell Robinson— This guy actually is one late round player that can really play. He has talent that is of the early round variety but also last talent flashes of the late round variety. I want to put him higher each time, but I have watched him over and over and he gets out done my physical players…. Needs weight room PROJ. PICK # 192

    30. Travis Benjamin – This guy could really move up a lot due to his 4.3 time. He looks like he can play. I have him ranked 30 but could jump 15 spots. Right now I have him here for KR/ST player abilities but if he plays WR as well could be round 4 selection. PROJ. PICK # 155

    Just missed or / and the bubble of draft: Brazill, Page, Cooper, Cunningham
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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    I love to talk about Wide Recievers and I think there is some really great talent outside of these guys as well.....This is to spark constructive conversations and based on what my EYES see, not what draft 'gurus' or 'espn' tells me...

    11- 20 to follow and 21-30 after that...

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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    PS -- only R. Randle and A.Jeffery have prodays left, and Kendall Wright at the Baylor pro day: 4.43.....

    No doubts K.Wright's speed, wish he would bench press...

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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    I would be very displeased with Sanu as the Rams' pick at #33.
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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    Nice to see someone else that is high on Sanu. He got a lot of bad rep for running a 4.67 at the Combine, but if you watch him play you will know he is a ~4.4 guy, and he showed it at his Pro Day. I want this guy on our team.


    I'm not a huge fan of Randle or A.J Jenkins. I would instead move Juron Criner and Marvin McNutt into their places instead.


    Marvin Jones is underrated. He should turn out to be a solid receiver. He makes the tough catches.

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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    I would be very displeased with Sanu as the Rams' pick at #33.
    And what is your reasoning for that if I might ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockinRam View Post
    And what is your reasoning for that if I might ask?
    How many possession receivers who can't separate do we need? We already have three (Pettis, Salas and Gibson).

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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    I would be very displeased with Sanu as the Rams' pick at #33.
    Just an a 4.41 at Rutgers Pro Day. He is .02 seconds slower than Blackmon and is much stronger....

    What would displease you? Trying to find out your concerns? I think he is clear cut #4 WR in this draft.

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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    How many possession receivers who can't separate do we need? We already have three (Pettis, Salas and Gibson).
    Then, thou shall count to three, no more, no less.
    Three shalt be the number thou shall count, and the number of the counting shall be three.
    Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three.
    Five is right out.
    Once the number is three, being the third number, be reached, you stop drafting possession receivers.

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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    The Stephen Hill hype train is starting to reach an all-time high around here, and I say that as someone who likes the kid.

    As for Sanu, he's my #6 receiver after Blackmon, Floyd, Hill, Wright, and Randle. The pro time time is a great improvement upon what he ran at the combine, but I never felt like I was watching a 4.41 guy whenever I tuned in to Rutgers football. Love the physicality, but I question his ability separate and spread defenses at the pro level.

    Overall, I'd put him around a mid-second round value. It's hard for me to believe he'd be the best value on the board when the Rams pick at #33, but I wouldn't be surprised if Fisher dips into the Rutgers receiver pool again depending on what happens at the top of the first round.
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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    The Rams have a slew of receivers that fit the same mold. They are slow and big, have trouble creating separation, and are great at catching passing in traffic. The Rams need a different type of receiver, be it a big guy like Hill or Streeter to compete with DX or a fast, deceptive receiver like AJ Jenkins or Kendall Wright.

    I'd love to see the Rams with actual speed. Speed kills, and the Rams are driving a golf cart in the Indy 500.

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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    The Stephen Hill hype train is starting to reach an all-time high around here, and I say that as someone who likes the kid.

    As for Sanu, he's my #6 receiver after Blackmon, Floyd, Hill, Wright, and Randle. The pro time time is a great improvement upon what he ran at the combine, but I never felt like I was watching a 4.41 guy whenever I tuned in to Rutgers football. Love the physicality, but I question his ability separate and spread defenses at the pro level.

    Overall, I'd put him around a mid-second round value. It's hard for me to believe he'd be the best value on the board when the Rams pick at #33, but I wouldn't be surprised if Fisher dips into the Rutgers receiver pool again depending on what happens at the top of the first round.
    What does Randle do better than Sanu besides play in the SEC ?

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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    Quote Originally Posted by richtree View Post
    Just an a 4.41 at Rutgers Pro Day.


    That is an unofficial time reported by a local (Newark) beat writer but, assuming its accurate, how do you account for his 4.67 at the Combine?

    When I look at his game film, I see a 4.6 guy, not a 4.4. guy. I'd contrast that with a guy like Kendall Wright (who, by the way, improved from a 4.61 to a 4.43 at his Pro Day according to unofficial reports) who, when you look at this tapes, looks fast.

    What would displease you? Trying to find out your concerns? I think he is clear cut #4 WR in this draft.
    Obviously, I disagree with your ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick View Post
    the pro time time is a great improvement upon what he ran at the combine, but i never felt like i was watching a 4.41 guy whenever i tuned in to rutgers football. Love the physicality, but i question his ability separate and spread defenses at the pro level.
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    Re: RichTree's Top 30 Wide Reciever Rankings Post- Combine / Pro Days

    For the record, here's my current ranking of the WRs in the draft:

    1. Justin Blackmon
    2. Malcolm Floyd
    3. Kendall Wright
    4. Stephen Hill
    5. Rueben Randle
    6. Chris Givens
    7. Alshon Jeffrey
    8. Tommy Streeter
    9. Nick Toon
    10. Mohamed Sanu

    If he were healthy, I'd probably have Ryan Broyles in the top 5.

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