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    Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    As much as I like Suh, I have a feeling Bradford is going to be a great QB despite the shoulder injury. He could end up being like Peyton Manning except without the laser cannon. He still has a good arm though.

    I hate this. Can we just draft both Suh and Bradford somehow?


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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Quote Originally Posted by shroomysoup View Post
    As much as I like Suh, I have a feeling Bradford is going to be a great QB despite the shoulder injury. He could end up being like Peyton Manning except without the laser cannon. He still has a good arm though.

    I hate this. Can we just draft both Suh and Bradford somehow?
    It's very possible that Bradford can fall to us in round two...
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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Quote Originally Posted by Mooselini View Post
    It's very possible that Bradford can fall to us in round two...
    Although that would make me cry tears of joy, I doubt that will happen. He will probably be the 1st QB taken... I think the Redskins take him.

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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Quote Originally Posted by shroomysoup View Post
    Although that would make me cry tears of joy, I doubt that will happen. He will probably be the 1st QB taken... I think the Redskins take him.
    right now, I agree with that. he falls right in line with what the Redskins like. We'll see what happens if Shannahan takes the HC position though.

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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Sam Bradford is a future 1st round bust. The problem with the Big 12 is that you have these players that look outstanding because their competition is terrible. The Defenses in the Big 12 are terrible and allowed Bradford all day to throw. When under pressure like he would face in the NFL, he looked average if not just plain bad.

    This is a pretty weak QB draft. The only worthy prospects are really developmental type guys like McCoy, Tebow, and Lefevour. Every other QB in this draft is valued to highly to be a reasonable pick.
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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    There's no QB in this draft who is a clear-cut 1st rounder. Too often, solid QB's are found in later, better value rounds.

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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Quote Originally Posted by shroomysoup View Post
    Can we just draft both Suh and Bradford somehow?
    I have a great idea. Trade Bulger, Boller, Null, Darby, Gado, Gibson, Kent, Brown, Butler, Butler, Lenon, Vabora, Wade, Gorrer, Little, Ryan, Douzable, Scott, Jackson, Avery, Jones, and Burton for the second overall pick in the draft. Then we get both.


    By the way, I'm joking.

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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Quote Originally Posted by RamJackson39 View Post
    Sam Bradford is a future 1st round bust. The problem with the Big 12 is that you have these players that look outstanding because their competition is terrible. The Defenses in the Big 12 are terrible and allowed Bradford all day to throw. When under pressure like he would face in the NFL, he looked average if not just plain bad.

    This is a pretty weak QB draft. The only worthy prospects are really developmental type guys like McCoy, Tebow, and Lefevour. Every other QB in this draft is valued to highly to be a reasonable pick.
    Can you elaborate on why you're critical of the Big 12 yet list McCoy as one of the few worthy prospects at the position in this class?

    As for Bradford, I think there's a lot to like there, but obviously the injury situation is a complication. Understatement of the year, perhaps.

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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Bradford has the best tools of any of them. Every QB coming out of college has question marks. Even Peyton Manning had question marks. He had that goofy footwork in college and kept the ball right near his ear to speed up delivery. He could never win the big game!

    I'm a massive Sam Bradford fan and have called on him repeatedly to be the #1. Honestly though, Suh is less of a question mark. If it's between Suh and Bradford, Suh is the easier / safer pick.

    Oh and it's completely wrong to say there isn't a first round QB in this draft. COMPLETELY wrong.

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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    If Mallett of Arkansas comes out, he would be the only QB I would take over Suh. Mallett has the best tools overall of any QB in college right now.

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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Quote Originally Posted by RamJackson39 View Post
    Sam Bradford is a future 1st round bust. The problem with the Big 12 is that you have these players that look outstanding because their competition is terrible. The Defenses in the Big 12 are terrible and allowed Bradford all day to throw. When under pressure like he would face in the NFL, he looked average if not just plain bad.

    This is a pretty weak QB draft. The only worthy prospects are really developmental type guys like McCoy, Tebow, and Lefevour. Every other QB in this draft is valued to highly to be a reasonable pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Can you elaborate on why you're critical of the Big 12 yet list McCoy as one of the few worthy prospects at the position in this class?


    I'm going to have to ask the same thing. When under pressure in the big 12 championship, McCoy looked pretty suspect to me.

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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

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    Can you elaborate on why you're critical of the Big 12 yet list McCoy as one of the few worthy prospects at the position in this class?

    As for Bradford, I think there's a lot to like there, but obviously the injury situation is a complication. Understatement of the year, perhaps.
    I like McCoy because I saw him deal with that pressure in more than one situation. I have him as a worthy prospect because you can get him later on in the draft instead of being forced to waste a top ten pick on him. Honestly I dont believe McCoy could ever be anything more than a game manager in the NFL, but it's better to get a guy like that in the second or third round instead of early on in the first.

    With Bradford he lacks the arm strength and mobility to be an NFL QB. I've seen him under fire maybe three times in his college career and everytime he has looked average to bad. Against BYU, against Texas when he came back from the injury, and against Florida in the National Championship last year. All three were losses and in two of them he didnt finish the game. Thats an issue.

    McCoy, on the otherhand, has dealt with a suspect line all year (which is one of the reason why Suh dominated in that game) and has made plays despite that. We'll also know a lot more about him after they face Alabama in Pasadena. Mainly how he's able to deal with a true pro style defense.

    This is a weak QB draft. There are a few guys that could play in the NFL, but I dont see a star in that group.
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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Quote Originally Posted by RamJackson39 View Post
    Sam Bradford is a future 1st round bust. The problem with the Big 12 is that you have these players that look outstanding because their competition is terrible. The Defenses in the Big 12 are terrible and allowed Bradford all day to throw.
    Most Big XII quarterbacks went out and performed at a high level in their bowl games.

    I bet you don't think Texas has a terrible defense. He completed over 70% of his passes for 387 yards and 5 touchdowns. He threw up a meaningless pass as time expired that got picked off to make it two interceptions. It should have only been one.

    He played TCU's defense, who had Jerry Hughes, who won the award as best DE in the country and a projected first round pick. He threw for 411 yards, 4 touchdowns, and 0 interceptions.

    Cincinnati was supposed to be good. Threw for 395 yards and 5 touchdowns.

    Note that this is all stuff from when the kid was only a sophomore. Even as a freshman when he played Texas, he threw for 244 touchdowns and three touchdowns with no interceptions.

    When under pressure like he would face in the NFL, he looked average if not just plain bad.
    When did he ever look bad? I watched nearly every game of his career, and there is not a single game that I can recall that he looked like anything less than a stud.
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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    Quote Originally Posted by RamJackson39 View Post
    With Bradford he lacks the arm strength and mobility to be an NFL QB. I've seen him under fire maybe three times in his college career and everytime he has looked average to bad. Against BYU, against Texas when he came back from the injury, and against Florida in the National Championship last year. All three were losses and in two of them he didnt finish the game. Thats an issue.
    Seriously? You only have three games, one of which he played like one complete drive, and another he only played until half. So basically you have six quarters, and those weren't even bad quarters.

    BYU game, he completed 10 of his 14 passes for 96 yards, a touchdown and no interceptions. There is nothing bad about that game.

    Texas game, he only threw 6 passes. They were for 77 yards and no interceptions.

    Against Florida, which happens to be the ONLY game you picked in his entire career, was not even that bad. He was playing against the best defense in the country and still threw for 256 yards and two touchdowns. He technically threw two interceptions, but both were tipped balls that should've been caught. If it weren't for those tipped balls he probably would have had three touchdowns, and some more yards. To say he was under pressure would be in understatement. Florida's D-line was in his backfield all game, yet he still played pretty well.

    I've already mentioned that he played Jerry Hughes' TCU who had 3 sacks on him, yet he still torched them for 411 yards and 4 touchdowns.

    He was sacked three times by Brian Orakpo's Texas, yet still torched them for 387 yards and 5 touchdowns.

    I forgot to mention that he torched Ndamukong Suh's Nebraska for 311 yards and five touchdowns.

    McCoy, on the otherhand, has dealt with a suspect line all year (which is one of the reason why Suh dominated in that game) and has made plays despite that.
    Suspect line? It's considered by many to be the best in the conference. I think they had more experience than any other line in the conference coming in, and had two preseason all Big XII lineman. I think they ended with one on first, one on second, and one honorable mention. That line was good.

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    Re: Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler

    He is either a huge bust or another Trent Green/Chad Pennington via being a great QB but injury prone.

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