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    Re: Texas DB Huff talks about preparing for combine

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    Also consider that a stud safety is going to be playing every snap on defense, where a stud TE despite his skills will probably be subbed out in various offensive packages, especially with our depth at receiver. It's a good debate, and a win-win for us because both are great prospects.
    True. But its alot harder to find a stud TE than a stud S.

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    Re: Texas DB Huff talks about preparing for combine

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    Also consider that a stud safety is going to be playing every snap on defense, where a stud TE despite his skills will probably be subbed out in various offensive packages, especially with our depth at receiver. It's a good debate, and a win-win for us because both are great prospects.
    Could'nt agree more.

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    Re: Texas DB Huff talks about preparing for combine

    Quote Originally Posted by RamsFan16
    True. But its alot harder to find a stud TE than a stud S.
    I don't believe that's true at all.

    The top three tight ends in this league are Gates, Gonzalez, and Crumpler. Only one of them (Tony) was a first round pick, and he wasn't even top ten. Gates was undrafted, Crumpler went in the second round.

    Now look at the top safeties in the league. Ed Reed, first round pick. Roy Williams, first round pick. Sean Taylor, first round pick. Troy Polamalu, first round pick.

    There are definitely tight ends taken in the first round who are near the top of the league, and definitely safeties taken later in the draft who have developed well.

    But I disagree that it's a lot harder to find a stud TE than a stud safety. If anything, I think in recent drafts you've seen teams find very good tight ends through the first three rounds. But the star safeties in this league typically don't last as long, maybe into the second round in some instances if teams are lucky, but most go high.

    Therefore, I don't think you can justify a high tight end pick by saying that it's harder to find them later in the draft than another position like safety.

    Furthermore, in our specific instance, the talent on the offensive side of the ball is far greater than the talent on the defensive side of the ball. So one could easily conclude that the Rams don't need a stud offensive talent as much as they need a stud defensive talent.
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    Re: Texas DB Huff talks about preparing for combine

    I think what he means is...

    are there more stud safeties in the league than stud TEs.
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    Re: Texas DB Huff talks about preparing for combine

    Quote Originally Posted by RamJackson39
    I think what he means is...

    are there more stud safeties in the league than stud TEs.
    Yes that its harder to find a stud TE then stud S. I bet its like 2 stud S's to 1 stud TE

    Brian Dawkins
    Ed Reed
    Mike Brown
    Darren Sharper
    Sean Taylor
    Troy Polomalu
    Mark Roman
    Roy Williams
    Marcus Trufant
    Adrian Wilson
    John Lynch

    Tony G
    Antonio Gates
    Jeremy Shocky
    Bubba Franks
    Alge Crumpler
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    Re: Texas DB Huff talks about preparing for combine

    Quote Originally Posted by RamsFan16
    Yes that its harder to find a stud TE then stud S. I bet its like 2 stud S's to 1 stud TE

    Brian Dawkins
    Ed Reed
    Mike Brown
    Darren Sharper
    Sean Taylor
    Troy Polomalu
    Mark Roman
    Roy Williams
    Marcus Trufant
    Adrian Wilson
    John Lynch

    Tony G
    Antonio Gates
    Jeremy Shocky
    Bubba Franks
    Alge Crumpler

    Trufant and Roman should'nt be on that safety list and you can add Mcmichael,Heath Miller,Jason Witten,lj smith,Dallas Clark and probably Winslow to the TE list

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    Re: Texas DB Huff talks about preparing for combine

    Quote Originally Posted by RamsFan16
    Mark Roman
    Marcus Trufant
    John Lynch
    Mark Roman is not even a good safety, let alone stud. Marcus Trufant plays CB! Lynch is debatable.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rip32
    Trufant and Roman should'nt be on that safety list and you can add Mcmichael,Heath Miller,Jason Witten,lj smith,Dallas Clark and probably Winslow to the TE list
    Thank you. Even if we only take two of those tight ends, his list should be:

    Brian Dawkins
    Ed Reed
    Mike Brown
    Darren Sharper
    Sean Taylor
    Troy Polomalu
    Roy Williams
    Adrian Wilson
    John Lynch

    Tony G
    Antonio Gates
    Jeremy Shocky
    Bubba Franks
    Alge Crumpler
    Dallas Clark
    Randy McMichael
    Jason Witten

    Nine safeties to eight tight ends. So if anything, it's pretty even. Not a two to one ratio, or "a lot harder" to find a stud TE than a stud safety.
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