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    Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

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    In his two years at Texas A&M, Johnny Manziel accounted for 93 total touchdowns. Now he'll see how the Johnny Football Show will play at the next level.

    Manziel wrote a thank you letter to Texas A&M fans for his two years in College Station while announcing his intent to enter the 2014 NFL draft Wednesday. "The decision was not an easy one," he wrote.

    NFL.com and ESPN first reported Manziel's decision to enter the draft.

    In 2013, Manziel completed 69.9% of his passes for 4,114 yards and 37 touchdowns. He also rushed for 759 yards and nine touchdowns. In 2012, his Heisman year, Manziel rushed for 1,410 yards and 21 touchdowns.


    His career totals: 7,820 yards passing and 63 touchdowns with 22 interceptions, and 2,169 yards rushing and 30 touchdowns.

    The Aggies finished the 2013 season 9-4.

    "The sky's the limit for Johnny Manziel," said Florida State QB Jameis Winston, who became the second freshman, after Manziel, to win the Heisman. "He's an amazing person and amazing player on the field.

    "The things he does with the ball in his hands, people always have faith in Johnny. His teammates are going to love him, because they know anything is possible with Johhny Football."

    Most of the questions about Manziel's passing ability were answered this season, leaving only the bigger-picture arguments about his final legacy and where his two-year run puts him in the pantheon of great college quarterbacks.

    "It's pretty incredible when you look at his two-year totals and numbers he's been able to put together," Duke coach David Cutcliffe said in the days before losing to Manziel and the Aggies in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. "The excitement meter in the way he plays takes it through the roof. To become somewhat legendary in one year puts you right at the top of the ladder in the historical sense of what an individual player has meant to college football."


    Manziel also will leave, as Cutcliffe noted, with the distinction of being the first pop culture phenomenon from college football in the era of social media, making him the most talked-about, Tweeted-about, Instragrammed player the sport has ever seen.
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    At the intersection of fame and immaturity, Manziel admittedly struggled at times to reconcile living life on his terms with the

    responsibility of being a Heisman Trophy winner and legitimate celebrity.

    When he was accused in August of receiving payments from memorabilia brokers to sign autographs — which led to an NCAA investigation and ultimately a suspension for the first half of Texas A&M's opener, it seemed the NCAA's amateurism rules would be as big a factor as anything in driving him to the NFL after this season.

    But as Manziel acknowledged recently, the past four months have been relatively peaceful. After the Aggies lost to Alabama on Sept. 14, effectively ending their national championship hopes, the Manziel hysteria faded a bit and the spotlight moved to Florida State's Jameis Winston.

    Even on campus, Manziel said life was more normal this fall than when he burst on the scene in 2012.

    "It's been a little bit of a journey, but I feel like I'm a lot better at handling it now than I was last year at this point," Manziel said. "I've had a great group of friends, a great group of teammates that have been around me since things kind of changed back in August. But life's been good. I've been able to enjoy things in College Station. It's really mellowed out a lot."

    And in his Texas A&M finale, he delivered a final show-stopping performance, completing 30-of-38 passes (12-of-13 in the second half) for 382 yards and four touchdowns to lead the Aggies to a 52-48 Chick-fil-A Bowl victory against Duke. He also ran for 73 yards and a touchdown, overcoming a near-disastrous performance by the Texas A&M defense and rallying the Aggies from 21 points down at halftime.

    In the game he left the college football world with one more classic Manziel play – running into a mess of bodies, hurdling a linebacker to avoid a sack, then backpedaling to get away from pressure and throwing a 19-yard touchdown pass.

    "I will always try to make you as proud of me in the NFL as I did at Texas A&M," Manziel wrote to A&M fans. He continued, "I regret we weren't able to bring a National Championship to College Station, but I assure you a championship is going to come soon with Coach (Kevin) Sumlin and these talented players."


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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    I really don't know what to think of Manziel, but I think his success ultimately will depend on where he lands. In 5 years he could either be one of the better QB's in the NFL or he could be out the league altogether… still not sure

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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    love how this was news when everyone knew he was leaving already lol

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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Citr92 View Post
    Love how this was news when everyone knew he was leaving already. LOL
    Yes, early old "news"!

    Now let's see how Johnnie shifts teams draft plans around although the respective 'what if' scenarios were already hovering over everyone's selection boards.

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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    Johnny is just one more bargaining chip for our second pick, should just help drive that ever lovin' value higher! Or so I hope...
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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    It will be interesting to see how things pan out for Manziel when he goes under the microscope. One think I am confident of: his reported height is a lie. According to ESPN.com (which, I presume, received its information from Texas A&M), Manziel is listed at 6'1.

    Not even close.

    Here is a photo of Manziel standing next to Manti Te'o, who measured at 6'1 at the 2013 Scouting Combine. He is clearly 2-3 inches shorter than Te'o:



    Manziel's proponents will assert that Russell Wilson and Drew Brees have proven that height is overrated. Manziel's playing style does not really resemble those two QBs, though, as Wilson is a runner who avoids hits, while Brees is a pocket passer.

    The more obvious comparison would be to guys like Michael Vick and Robert Griffin, III. We've all seen how durable those small running QBs have been in the NFL.

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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    Granted, Manti Te'o does seem to be taller but we must keep in mind that his height is ... imaginary.

    That beam structure behind the athletes in photo is a good reference. Manziel is probably a tall 5-11" ish?
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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie25 View Post
    I really don't know what to think of Manziel, but I think his success ultimately will depend on where he lands. In 5 years he could either be one of the better QB's in the NFL or he could be out the league altogether… still not sure
    It would sure be fun to see what Chip Kelly could do with him ..

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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    You think Houston's under pressure now. The will probably play it safe and take Clowney so they won't have to choose between Manziel & Bridgewater. Just in case the A & M kid turns out to be the real deal in the NFL...The fans would never forgive them...

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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    It will be interesting to see how things pan out for Manziel when he goes under the microscope. One think I am confident of: his reported height is a lie. According to ESPN.com (which, I presume, received its information from Texas A&M), Manziel is listed at 6'1.

    Not even close.

    Here is a photo of Manziel standing next to Manti Te'o, who measured at 6'1 at the 2013 Scouting Combine. He is clearly 2-3 inches shorter than Te'o:



    Manziel's proponents will assert that Russell Wilson and Drew Brees have proven that height is overrated. Manziel's playing style does not really resemble those two QBs, though, as Wilson is a runner who avoids hits, while Brees is a pocket passer.

    The more obvious comparison would be to guys like Michael Vick and Robert Griffin, III. We've all seen how durable those small running QBs have been in the NFL.
    How does Wilson and Manziel style not resemble one another?

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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambos View Post
    How does Wilson and Manziel style not resemble one another?
    Wilson typically runs either (1) by design, or (2) as a last resort. Manziel is more of a scrambler/free lancer.

    Also, any comparison to Wilson is probably ill-advised, as Wilson plays within the protective bubble of an offense that relies on the running game (and, more often than not, has a lead). In fact, Wilson had the fewest passing attempts of any QB who started the entire season. Manziel, playing for a team like Houston, Jacksonville or Cleveland, is not going to be limited to 25 pass attempts/game.

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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    Closest thing i have ever seen to one of the absolute top Rams killers (and one of the great nfl players) of all time, the great, great, great Fran Tarkenton.

    Ramming speed to all

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    Re: Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel enters NFL draft

    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyramsfan View Post
    You think Houston's under pressure now. The will probably play it safe and take Clowney so they won't have to choose between Manziel & Bridgewater. Just in case the A & M kid turns out to be the real deal in the NFL...The fans would never forgive them...
    Really? You think despite a desperate need for a franchise QB, the Texans are going to pass and take Clowney because they will be unwilling to choose between Bridgewater and Manziel?

    That seems rather unlikely. If they take Clowney, it won't be because they're avoiding a choice between the two QBs, but rather because they don't like either enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post

    Really? You think despite a desperate need for a franchise QB, the Texans are going to pass and take Clowney because they will be unwilling to choose between Bridgewater and Manziel?

    That seems rather unlikely. If they take Clowney, it won't be because they're avoiding a choice between the two QBs, but rather because they don't like either enough.
    "I can't decide between the St. Louis ribs and the babybacks... I think I'll have the spaghetti."
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