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    Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    2014 NFL Mock Draft: Receivers For Everyone! Yay! - Battle Red Blog

    2 – [TRADE] Tampa Bay gives 2014 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 2015 1st to St. Louis: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina

    7 – St. Louis [From Tampa]: Andre Hal, CB, Vanderbilt
    Who? Not many people have paid much attention to the criminally underrated corner from Vandy, but they will soon enough. I believe Andre Hal and Darqueze Dennard are 1A and 1B as far as cornerbacks go in this class, and both of them are easily worth a top 10 pick. I like Hal in St. Louis over Dennard mainly because the Rams defense has their corners playing 7-8 yards off their receivers in single high safety looks the majority of the time. Hal excels in off coverage whereas Dennard is more of a press and press-bail defender. His footwork is exceptional, and very rarely does anyone force him out of position. Performance in the Compass Bowl notwithstanding, Mike Evans is really the only receiver to have any sort of success against Hal in the six games that I have watched. Receivers from South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, and Ole Miss nabbed a grand total of four catches for 41 yards and no touchdowns combined in man coverage against Hal, while Texas A&M completed two passes for 54 yards, one touchdown, and one interception when throwing Hal’s way. Both of those passes were completed to Evans, and 43 of those yards came on a go route for a touchdown where Evans displayed his insane physical ability to beat even the most technically sound corners.
    Hal’s main weakness is against the run, where he struggles to get off blocks and make tackles, but his pure coverage ability is amazing. When combined with the Rams loaded front seven and talented young number two corner Janoris Jenkins, Andre Hal might be just what the Rams need to turn their defense from very good into downright disgusting.


    13 – St. Louis: Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State

    Can we just cut this whole Brian Quick thing short please? And while we’re at it can we stop pretending that Austin Pettis or Chris Givens can ever be a legitimate number one threat? They are role players, and though not bad by any means, they are not what the Rams offense needs right now. Trying to get by with missed second and third round picks is doing Sam Bradford a disservice, and I am going to rectify that. Kelvin Benjamin, like Mike Evans in Cleveland, will give St. Louis their own big, uncoverable target that can beat up corners at the line of scrimmage and make catches on contested balls. Benjamin has the measurables and skillset to be a true number one receiver for the Rams, which then frees up sophomores Stedman Bailey and Tavon Austin to thrive in their roles as a possession receiver and slot receiver respectively. No more playing around. No more getting cute with mid round picks. This position gets solved, and it gets solved now. Free safety and offensive line can wait a round.
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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    I cannot wait for the combine to see how these guys at CB & WR & S all stack up... I sitll think Gilbert might be the most underrated of the corners but we shall see. Benjamin or Evans either one really fits a bill for us. Could reverse this and go for the WR first and the corner second, so many options and never enough picks. Love that we get that bonus 1st rounder for 2015. I think everyone would love that about the trade! We might also be able to parlay the third rounder into a second and still get the bonus 4th. Let the bidding of Clowney begin! LOL

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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    Three problems with this mock:

    1) Make it a 2014 1st, 2nd, and 4th, plus another 2015 1st rounder and now were talking

    2) I've honestly never even heard of this Hal guy, and I haven't even seen him in any other mock drafts. Actually the only two CB's I've consistently seen go in mock draft first rounds are Dennard and Gilbert. Not saying it's a bad pick, but he certainly seems like a huge reach at 7 to me.

    3) I like Benjamin's size and potential, but to me he seems like a player who is pretty raw and needs time to develop, which is the last thing the Rams need. Maybe I'm wrong and he'll test out pretty well at the combine, but for now I'd rather have Sammy Watkins or Mike Evans

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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauceman View Post
    When combined with the Rams loaded front seven and talented young number two corner Janoris Jenkins
    This guy has no clue about the Rams. If he did, he probably would've have mentioned that other CB Trumaine Johnson, who actually outplayed Jenkins this year.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sauceman View Post
    Can we just cut this whole Brian Quick thing short please?
    He's been in the league for two years. TWO. Not to mention, Clemens was slinging the ball around for the majority of the last season. The answers no, Brian Quick stays.

    Now go to your room and think long and hard about what you just wrote.
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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    Like the Kelvin Benjamin part of it, but there's no way the Rams draft a CB in the top 10.

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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    The Rams need a safety, not a starting corner. Unless it's a nickel corner.

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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauceman View Post
    Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?
    My thoughts?

    We should probably be a bit more selective when determining what mock drafts warrant sharing and which can probably be dismissed.
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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    You guys are such haters. This dude watched SIX games of that corner back. Sounds legit to me.
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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

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    This says it all.

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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    7 – St. Louis [From Tampa]: Andre Hal, CB, Vanderbilt
    ....and we're done here.

    If Roger Goodell made a proclamation that only CBs could be drafted in the 1st round, Andre Hal STILL would not be drafted as high as #7.
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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    For funsies I looked up the rest of the draft. I'm bored so I'll share.

    1. Houston - Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville
    2. Tampa - Jadeveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (giving the Rams 2014 1st, 3rd, 4th and a '15 1st)
    3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - OLB - Buffalo
    4. Cleveland - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M
    5. Oakland - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh
    6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
    7. St. Louis - Andre Hal - CB - Vanderbilt
    8. Minnesota - Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan State
    9. Buffalo - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn
    10. Detroit - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson
    11. Chicago - Timmy Jernigan - DT - Flordia (trade with Texans)
    12. NY Giants - Marcus Roberson - CB - Flordia
    13. St. Louis - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida State
    14. Tennessee - Tre Mason - RB - Auburn
    15. Pittsburgh - Louis Nix III - DT - Notre Dame
    16. Baltimore - Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina
    17. Dallas - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix - S - Alabama
    18. NY Jets - Marquise Lee - WR - USC
    19. Miami - Cyrus Kouandijo - OT - Alabama
    20. Arizona - Blake Bortles - QB - Central Florida
    21. San Diego - Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech (trade with Green Bay)
    22. Philadelphia - Jordan Matthews - WR - Vanderbilt
    23. Kansas City - Lemarcus Joyner - CB/S - Florida State
    24. Cincinnati - Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State
    25. Green Bay - CJ Mosley - ILB - Alabama
    26. Cleveland - De'Anthony Thomas - WR/RB - Oregon
    27. New Orleans - Anthony Barr - OLB - UCLA
    28. Carolina - Jaris Landry - WR - LSU
    29. New England - Ra'Shede Hageman - DT - Minnesota
    30. San Francisco - David Yankey - OG - Stanford
    31. Seattle - Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame
    32. Denver - Jason Verrett - CB - TCU

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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    Quote Originally Posted by DE_Ramfan View Post
    For funsies I looked up the rest of the draft. I'm bored so I'll share.

    1. Houston - Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville
    2. Tampa - Jadeveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina (giving the Rams 2014 1st, 3rd, 4th and a '15 1st)
    3. Jacksonville - Khalil Mack - OLB - Buffalo
    4. Cleveland - Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M
    5. Oakland - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh
    6. Atlanta - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
    7. St. Louis - Andre Hal - CB - Vanderbilt
    8. Minnesota - Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan State
    9. Buffalo - Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn
    10. Detroit - Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson
    11. Chicago - Timmy Jernigan - DT - Flordia (trade with Texans)
    12. NY Giants - Marcus Roberson - CB - Flordia
    13. St. Louis - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida State
    14. Tennessee - Tre Mason - RB - Auburn
    15. Pittsburgh - Louis Nix III - DT - Notre Dame
    16. Baltimore - Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina
    17. Dallas - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix - S - Alabama
    18. NY Jets - Marquise Lee - WR - USC
    19. Miami - Cyrus Kouandijo - OT - Alabama
    20. Arizona - Blake Bortles - QB - Central Florida
    21. San Diego - Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech (trade with Green Bay)
    22. Philadelphia - Jordan Matthews - WR - Vanderbilt
    23. Kansas City - Lemarcus Joyner - CB/S - Florida State
    24. Cincinnati - Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State
    25. Green Bay - CJ Mosley - ILB - Alabama
    26. Cleveland - De'Anthony Thomas - WR/RB - Oregon
    27. New Orleans - Anthony Barr - OLB - UCLA
    28. Carolina - Jaris Landry - WR - LSU
    29. New England - Ra'Shede Hageman - DT - Minnesota
    30. San Francisco - David Yankey - OG - Stanford
    31. Seattle - Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame
    32. Denver - Jason Verrett - CB - TCU
    Hahaha what a joke, he has seven CB's going in the 1st round and none of them named Justin Gilbert… someone please escort this douche off the premises

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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    Wasn't "Hal" the name of the computer in the movie 2001 Space Odyssey? Didn't know it's first name was Andre....

    At any rate this mock stinks and needs to be flotsam, jetsam out the door now.
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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    Meh; I thought it was interesting because it wasn't the cookie cutter Rams draft that I feel is becoming the norm. I liked that there were different options to discuss. I'd never even heard of Andre Hal and wanted some feedback.
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    Re: Thoughts on the interesting 1-round mock by BattleRedBlog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauceman View Post
    Meh; I thought it was interesting because it wasn't the cookie cutter Rams draft that I feel is becoming the norm. I liked that there were different options to discuss. I'd never even heard of Andre Hal and wanted some feedback.
    Don't take offense at the responses. We know you're just the messenger.
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