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    What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    It is now 100 days until the start of the NFL draft!

    Over that period, there will be several opportunities to learn more about the prospects.

    Which do you find the most informative?


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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    I've always felt like the All-Star games provide a lot of information regarding prospects. The downside is that, of course, many top prospects won't participate.

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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    To me it's whats on tape. I don't care who is the fastest, biggest, or strongest. Football players show up on tape and I would hope it's more than just one game. How did they perform in college against NFL caliber talent and was their play consistent and at a high level for the NFL?

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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    Since one of your choices is specific to the Rams, are you looking for how we evaluate Ram prospect or prospects in general?

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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZYHORNS View Post
    To me it's whats on tape. I don't care who is the fastest, biggest, or strongest. Football players show up on tape and I would hope it's more than just one game. How did they perform in college against NFL caliber talent and was their play consistent and at a high level for the NFL?

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    Perhaps I was not sufficiently specific. I means what in the next 100 days will have the most influence on you. The existing game tapes are a given.

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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    I always felt the Combine is pivotal as it lines up the prospects side-by-side and gives teams a chance to evaluate players evenly. Pro-Days are too orchestrated. Invitee list is good too, but teams have already done a lot of evaluating by that point and its more a validation than anything else. The all-star games are good tools but many players don't participate.

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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    I went with combine. Film is the best but since we're going with whats best for the next 100 days:

    All-star game is good, but they get limited playing time and snaps and limited time with coaches as well.

    Pro-day is on their turf, with familiarity around them.

    Rams park invitee shows interest by the Rams to which we will look at those players a little closer, but we still dont hear much about it and what happens except for a few quotes(i.e "he wowed us")

    Combine is where all of them come together, are all put into the same exact position and none of them have an advantage. So im going with that.


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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    Hard to say, really. I guess I'd go with the "all-star" games. I think the combine is severely overrated and is used for ATHLETES not FOOTBALL PLAYERS to boost their stock tremendously. Like Dontari Poe for example. The guy was not a great NT and the film showed it, had tremendous trouble shedding blocks, low impact player, but he runs a 5.00 flat 40 at 350lbs and suddenly he's a top prospect? C'mon.. The guy even sucked all of last year with the Chiefs..

    At the end of the day I'll stick with an all-star game where guys put their heart on the line to make plays and do the things that matter (especially the weeks of practice we get to watch and read about).


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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    i voted pro day......mainly because i kind of forget how most of these are orchestrated....maybe i should of just not voted

    but nothing translates a player better than performing on the field in a game

    everyone gets all wet over a fast guy, high vertical jump, strong lifts...doesn't matter when they can't play football at the pro level

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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    Watching the SEC.... Say no more...
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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    Even though I would personally say game film, nothing raises or lowers a prospect's draft stock like the combine does. No matter how productive a player was during the college season, all it takes is one bad .40 time or Wonderlic test for a guys draft position to take a tumble.

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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie25 View Post
    Even though I would personally say game film, nothing raises or lowers a prospect's draft stock like the combine does. No matter how productive a player was during the college season, all it takes is one bad .40 time or Wonderlic test for a guys draft position to take a tumble.
    40 time? Yes, Wonderlic? No...

    Morris Claiborne scored a 4 out of 50 and got drafted 7th... I dont think teams could care less about the wonderlic.


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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    Quote Originally Posted by sosa39rams View Post
    40 time? Yes, Wonderlic? No...

    Morris Claiborne scored a 4 out of 50 and got drafted 7th... I dont think teams could care less about the wonderlic.
    It depends on the position. It definitely matters for QB and certain OL positions. And sometimes MLB


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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamOG View Post
    It depends on the position. It definitely matters for QB and certain OL positions. And sometimes MLB
    Tell it to Donovan McNabb who scored a 7, Michael Vick who scored an 11, and Vince Young who scored an 11.

    The Wonderlic has 0 effect on where you are drafted. It even has 0 effect on your ability to learn and grasp an NFL offense. Ryan Fitzpatrick scored a 48 out of 50 on his wonderlic and he's still trash and was barely drafted.


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    Re: What is the biggest factor in your analysis of draft prospects?

    Quote Originally Posted by sosa39rams View Post
    Tell it to Donovan McNabb who scored a 7, Michael Vick who scored an 11, and Vince Young who scored an 11.

    The Wonderlic has 0 effect on where you are drafted. It even has 0 effect on your ability to learn and grasp an NFL offense. Ryan Fitzpatrick scored a 48 out of 50 on his wonderlic and he's still trash and was barely drafted.
    I wouldn't say 0 effect. If that were the case they wouldn't give the test. But it, like every other evaluation, has a limited effect.

    And I'm not sure that Vince Young and Ryan Fitzpatrick were the best choices of examples. One quickly fizzled out and hasn't played a snap in over a year. The other is currently a starter.
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