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    The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    Now that he's officially been released, where will Peyton Manning sign? Let's try to keep all the news about this mega-free agent in one thread.

    It looks like the Seahawks are off and running in the hunt...

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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    From the Miami Herald...

    Breakdown of factors that could sway Manning

    Peyton Manning has been officially released by the Indianapolis Colts today. He can sign with another team as early as 4:01 p.m. Thursday or when the transaction hits the NFL wire.

    So where is he actually going?

    Well, the offshore gaming parlors have established the Dolphins as 2-1 favorites to land the former Pro Bowl and future Hall of Fame quarterback.

    Washington, Arizona, Seattle, the Jets, and Chiefs are among the other teams expected to chase Manning to some degree.

    But what team will be most attractive to Manning?

    First, let me tell you what I have been told by a league source. Manning is not a big fan of playing in cold, crappy weather if he can help it. All things being equal, he'd rather play in a warm climate or domed home stadium. No, the climate thing is not a deal-breaker, I'm told, but it is important because even Manning and his "people" recognize he's had much greater success in good weather or indoor games throughout his career.

    That suggests the Chiefs, Seattle and Jets will have to deal with something of a disadvantage as they all play home games in outdoor stadiums where it can get treacherous late int he season.

    Next, people close to Manning, those who worked with him for years are not buying the idea of Manning going to the Washington Redskins. On this former Colts general manager Bill Polian and former Colts coach Tony Dungy agree and the reason is simple:

    Manning doesn't like the idea of facing his brother Eli twice a year.

    "I think it would be tough for him to be in the NFC East and play twice a year and potentially knock Eli out of the playoffs," Dungy said on ESPN today. "I don't think he would want to be in direct competition with Eli and the New York Giants."

    Polian added that every time Peyton played Eli in the past it "wore on him." Polian pretty much eliminated the Redskins. So there's that.

    I've also been told that while it is not a prerequisite of his signing, Manning would probably like adding players that he's comfortable with. The most obvious of these is his go-to receiver Reggie Wayne, who is an unrestricted free agent.

    Wayne, who played for the University of Miami, would seem like a natural addition with the Dolphins if Manning really, truly wants the security of having a familiar receiver. Speaking of receivers, I can tell you that Miami alpha receiver Brandon Marshall greatly approves of the idea of adding Manning.

    I talked to Marshall a couple of weeks ago and he spoke of spending some time at an endorsement event with Manning during Super Bowl week. No, it wasn't a full-on recruiting moment by Marshall, but he told me the idea of adding Manning was one he welcomed.

    Marshall, however, was not the only big-time receiver to spend some time with Manning during Super Bowl week. Arizona's Larry Fitzgerald similarly spent time with Manning. The Cardinals invested heavily in Kevin Kolb last season. They gave him a big contract that included a $10 million signing bonus and they traded away Dominque Rogers-Cromartie to the Eagles for Kolb.

    But Kolb's status in Arizona is tenuous because he didn't have a great 2011 season and he has a $7 million option bonus due March 17. The Cardinals could easily decline the option and shift their focus onto Manning.

    My educated guess is Arizona presents the greatest threat to the Dolphins as both teams try to lure Manning. Arizona plays in a retractable roof stadium. The talent is more or less on par with the Dolphins and, in fact, the Cardinals can argue their 8-8 record last season suggests they're better than Miami.

    The Dolphins have the edge that Manning already has a condo in South Florida so he likes it here. As was reported first here, Manning was working out in South Florida while the rest of the NFL was chasing him all over Indianapolis during the combine.

    That's the lay of the land. The NFL wire's release will signal the start of the chase.

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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    If Manning ends up going to AZ im going to shoot myself for not putting in for that position with the organization...

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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    I totally agree with the article that no way Peyton goes to Washington because of the stated reasons..
    I unfortunately think Arizona, Jets or Miami are the frontrunners. Arizona being at the top cause they play indoors, decent defense and fitzgerald.. which sucks for us i hope he goes to miami and battles with pretty boy tom twice a year..

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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    Anywhere but the NFC West and I'm still a big fan of Peyton!
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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    Quote Originally Posted by Bald_81 View Post
    Anywhere but the NFC West and I'm still a big fan of Peyton!
    Exactly. Go to Miami or Jets, I dont care. Just dont go to NFC West/Washington
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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    Told you so about Washington. I knew he had no desire to face his brother twice a year.

    What I ask myself is, "Why is Manning coming back?" Is it money? No, it's rings. And possibly passing Favre on the passing charts. So, where does he accomplish those easiest. Well, right now, NOT the AFC East. he has to battle Brady for a home playoff game each year. Sure, the weather might be nice, but you still have to play at Buffalo, at NY, and at Foxboro, all crap weather cities. The chances of having to play there at least one of the last three weeks of the season are high. I don't see Miami nearly as nice as the offshore bettors.

    Unfortunately for us, I don't think that Seattle's weather is nearly as bad as they say it is. They get rain and it gets chilly, but it's not like the Frozen Tundra. Moreso, Lynch gives them a solid run game in cold weather. The question I see is what Peyton thinks of their defense and the Whiners'.

    Basically replace Lynch with Fitzy as the offensive Robin to Manning and you have the Cards. Better environment because of the dome, but questions about the defense and the run game make it an unknown, though it's not like Manning hasn't operated with no run game before.

    My wild card is the Chief. It has targets, a run game, a good defense, and a division that sounds much better than it really is. The Chargers have fallen. Tebowmania can be defeated. Carson Palmer looked like he was betting against the Raiders. With Peyton, the Chiefs could put together a run of division wins. The only question is... will the open stadium drive him off? Only the game in Denver has the potential to be ugly for road division games.

    I'm going Chiefs, Arizona, Seattle as my top three. He's going west, that's all I know.
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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    Report: Peyton Manning "put out feelers" to the Cardinals

    3/8/2012

    Adam Schein of FOXSports.com reports according to different sources, has put out feelers about the Cardinals. He is very intrigued by playing with Larry Fitzgerald and bringing Wayne along as his wingman.

    Make no mistake; part of the Cardinals' plan would be to sign Wayne if they brought Manning on board. It has been discussed at length internally. Manning is said to respect and like Whisenhunt and has reached out via intermediaries to learn more about him. Sources say Manning also likes Arizona’s young, talented defense.

    There is legit mutual interest in a Manning-Cardinals marriage. Arizona will be in play.


    Hard to imagine Billy Bow Tie shelling out millions for Peyton, but this would seem a very good landing spot for Peyton. I believe he'll go to where he thinks he's got the best chance to win over the best $$$ offer. Where I don't want him to go is Washington. Shanny needs to win, and Peyton would be an immediate upgrade. Sure Eli's in the same division, but Peyton's a competitor - can't see the brother thing as a deal breaker - especially after Danny Slider throws in a couple of dump truck loads cash ..

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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    If I had to put money on it, I'd say the Cards. It's got everything he wants, and nothing he doesn't.
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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    Peyton Manning: Redskins poised for a hard sell to superstar QB
    By Mark Maske

    The Washington Redskins are poised to make an aggressive effort in coming days to sign quarterback Peyton Manning, who became perhaps the highest-profile free agent in NFL history with the announcement of his release by the Indianapolis Colts Wednesday.

    Several people familiar with the Redskins’ plans said the team is comfortable with the risks associated with signing Manning, who missed all of last season with the Colts after undergoing a series of neck surgeries. The team will pursue him intently, they said. Redskins officials declined to comment.


    But it’s not clear how seriously Manning, who turns 36 this month, would consider an offer from the Redskins. Opinion around the league is mixed on that subject.

    It also is unclear whether the possible addition of Manning would keep the team from pursuing a trade with the St. Louis Rams for the second overall selection in April’s NFL draft. The Redskins, who have the sixth overall pick in the draft, have appeared interested in trading up to use the Rams’ choice on Robert Griffin III, the Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback from Baylor.

    Which team should sign Peyton Manning?

    Arizona Cardinals

    Kansas City Chiefs

    Miami Dolphins

    New York Jets

    Seattle Seahawks

    Washington Redskins


    One person with knowledge of the Redskins’ planning said the team intends to go after Manning aggressively and, if Manning signs elsewhere, turn its attention to strongly pursuing a trade for the Rams’ pick. But two others familiar with the Redskins’ intentions said signing Manning would not preclude the addition of a young quarterback in the draft--either Griffin or Ryan Tannehill of Texas A&M, who could be selected with the sixth pick.

    At an emotional news conference Wednesday, Colts owner Jim Irsay and Manning said they had mutually agreed that now is the best time for the quarterback to leave the team, which has begun a major rebuilding of its roster.

    “In life and in sports, we all know that nothing lasts forever,” Manning said.

    Manning said he had not thought yet about where he would play next, but stressed that he is not ready to retire.

    If the Redskins fail to land Manning, other options for a veteran free agent quarterback include Kyle Orton, the former Chicago and Denver starter most recently with the Kansas City Chiefs; and Matt Flynn, the Green Bay Packers’ backup to Aaron Rodgers, who could be highly valued by some teams in free agency.

    The unrestricted free agent market opens Tuesday. But Manning gets a jump because he will be free to sign with any team once his release by the Colts becomes official. That could be as soon as later Wednesday or might happen Thursday. Manning was scheduled to earn a $28 million bonus if he remained on the Colts roster Thursday.

    Irsay and Manning shared a flight Tuesday from Florida to Indianapolis.

    The Colts have decided to overhaul their roster after going 2-14 last season without Manning, and are expected to use the top overall selection in the draft on Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.

    Any team interested in signing Manning will have to weigh the risks of giving a substantial contract to an aging quarterback coming off a serious neck injury against the rewards of adding the only four-time most valuable player in NFL history. Orthopedic surgeon Robert Watkins has pronounced Manning’s neck sufficiently healed for him to resume his career, but his arm strength remains a question.

    Some observers have said that Manning’s throwing in his rehabilitation has been promising, and those who know the Redskins’ thinking said the team seems willing to absorb the risk of signing him.

    Several people in the league said Wednesday they regard the Miami Dolphins as the frontrunner to sign Manning. The Dolphins seem intent on landing a top-tier quarterback and owner Stephen Ross appears willing to give Manning a contract with a significant amount of guaranteed money, those people said. Signing with the Dolphins would enable Manning to play in a warm, passing-friendly environment and would keep him in the AFC, although in the same division as his most obvious rival, the New England Patriots and their three-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, Tom Brady.

    The New York Jets and Arizona Cardinals also are widely regarded as strong contenders in the Manning sweepstakes. Playing for the Jets would put Manning, already one of the sport’s top endorsement pitchmen, on the big New York stage. He would share that market with his younger brother, New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning, but he would not have to compete with him on the field very often.

    With the Cardinals, Manning would get to play his home games indoors and would inherit a top receiver in Larry Fitzgerald. The Chiefs, Seattle Seahawks and others also could attempt to sign Manning.

    The Redskins don’t appear immediately equipped to satisfy Manning’s apparent desire to play for a team that gives him a good chance to make a successful return to the sport and chase a second career Super Bowl triumph. They went 5-11 last season and lacked a 1,000-yard receiver. Their offensive line remains a work in progress. And if Manning played for the Redskins, he would have to face his brother in two NFC East games per season.

    One person familiar with the situation said Wednesday he wasn’t certain if Manning would consider an offer by the Redskins seriously because of those factors. But Manning and agent Tom Condon almost certainly would encourage the Redskins’ pursuit, that person said, in an attempt to intensify the bidding and raise the price tag for other teams.

    But others said it’s possible the Redskins could be Manning’s best option, particularly if snags develop in his negotiations with other teams. One person who knows Manning said last week that Manning would be pleased with the organizational stability provided by Coach Mike Shanahan, a two-time Super Bowl winner in Denver, and General Manager Bruce Allen.

    The Redskins, though, would have to address any concerns that Manning might have about their offensive system. Those who know Manning say he had great input into the way the offense was run in Indianapolis and would want to work in a similar system with a new team. Shanahan and his son, Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, failed to make things work with veteran quarterback Donovan McNabb after obtaining him in a trade with the Philadelphia Eagles before the 2010 season. But the Redskins might be more flexible with Manning, especially after totaling only 11 victories the last two seasons.

    The Redskins also would have to demonstrate to Manning that they could put enough players around him to be successful, according to people who know Manning. That would include upgrading their wide receivers, something the team appears poised to do in free agency by trying to sign the San Diego Chargers’ Vincent Jackson, the Colts’ Pierre Garcon or the New Orleans Saints’ Marques Colston. The team that signs Manning also might end up with Garcon and Reggie Wayne, another former Indianapolis receiver who is a free agent.

    A person close to one of the top free agent wide receivers said Wednesday that the Redskins must improve at quarterback before a high-profile wideout would sign with them.

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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    Why Peyton Manning and the Kansas City Chiefs Are a Perfect Fit

    By Jeremy Sickel

    The next chapter in the Peyton Manning saga is over, as the Indianapolis Colts officially announced his release at today’s noon press conference.

    As we all speculate where Manning will line up under center next season, there are no wrong answers at this point, but by dissecting the entire situation, there are a handful of landing spots that are ideal for both Manning at this point in his career and his potential suitor.

    The 2011 Kansas City Chiefs, despite losing starters at key positions—safety Eric Berry, tight end Tony Moeaki and running back Jamaal Charles—for the bulk of, if not the entire season, still managed to come one blocked field goal away from winning the AFC West and making a return trip to the postseason.

    Comprised of teams either in transition or not deemed as serious playoff contenders, the AFC West will be up for grabs in 2012. And while the situation in Denver seems the most stable at face value, we are all familiar with the roller coaster ride that the Tim Tebow chronicle strapped us into last season.

    Despite the fact that the Chiefs are going through a changeover themselves with a new coaching regime, led by new head coach Romeo Crennel, a clean slate could actually bode well for their chances of landing Manning, who is accustomed to being heavily involved with the offense from his days as a Colt.

    New offensive coordinator Brian Daboll is sure to bring in his own system, but with a new setting comes tinkering, and with weapons like Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Jonathan Baldwin, Steve Breaston and Tony Moeaki, the Chiefs’ offense has a chance to take a huge leap forward with the addition of Manning at quarterback.


    As it stands, Peyton Manning just wants to prove he can still strap it up and play football.

    I am sure winning games is his next priority, with money in a distant third place.

    Not known for spending gobs of cash on free agents anyway, this allows the Chiefs to stay in the discussion while perennial spenders like the Washington Redskins try to bully out the competition.

    The Chiefs are a projected $37 million under the salary cap, leaving plenty of room to work out a deal for Manning.

    The only hurdle that would need to be cleared would be to decide what to do with current quarterback Matt Cassel, but with a salary cap hit at less than $5.5 million, releasing or keeping Cassel will not be an issue as much as his acceptance of the back-up role.

    Despite their recent losing history, Kansas City still shows itself well in the stands with one of the most rabid fan bases in all of sports.

    And as bizarre as it would be to see Peyton Manning in a uniform other than that of the Indianapolis Colts, just ask the Chiefs’ faithful how well they received Joe Montana before the 1993 season—coincidentally, the last season the Chiefs won a playoff game.

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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    Marshall Faulk: Peyton Manning will not play in NFC


    By Nate Davis, USA TODAY

    The next several weeks will be replete with speculation about the next destination for now former Colts QB Peyton Manning. But one of the four-time MVP's former teammates says you can cross 16 teams off the list right now as future employers.

    "If you're in the NFC, you're out. The Mannings (won't) play a regular-season game," said NFL Network analyst and Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulk, referring to Peyton and Giants QB Eli Manning.

    "They're not gonna stop each other from going to the Super Bowl. Meeting in the Super Bowl? How great would that be for the family?"

    Discount Faulk at your own risk.

    He and Manning were Colts teammates in 1998 and have maintained a personal relationship amid the enormous mutual respect they developed in the Indianapolis locker room. Faulk is also a native of New Orleans and knows Archie Manning, Peyton's father and the once-beloved Saints quarterback.

    "How great would it be for Archie to have his two boys playing against each other in the greatest game that there is?" said Faulk.

    If you'd forgotten, Super Bowl XLVII is in New Orleans.

    Pressed on his statement ruling out NFC suitors for Manning -- the Cardinals and Seahawks are viewed as logical destinations -- Faulk emphatically said: "There's no way -- there's no way, there's no way, there's no way."

    He said Manning's camp might talk to NFC teams but "only as a bargaining tool."

    As for who might reel in the quarterback, Faulk first mentioned the Dolphins.

    "Matt Flynn just doesn't do it," he said of the largely unproven free agent quarterback often linked to new Miami HC Joe Philbin from their time together in Green Bay. "(He's) not Aaron Rodgers, let's be honest."

    Faulk also mentioned all of Manning's former AFC South foes, saying the Texans, Jaguars and Titans would "love to have him" before also throwing the Jets into the mix.

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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    I will say one thing: If Peyton and Wayne do sign as a package deal somewhere in the NFC West, then Claiborne must move higher up the Rams draft board

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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    I really think he goes to Miami. I think the entire NFC is out just because he and Eli do not want to knock each other out of the playoffs. I think Petyon will stay in the AFC and NFC is out.
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    Re: The "Where Does Peyton Sign?" Saga

    The Miami Herald confirms that the Redskins have been "eliminated from consideration" in the pursuit of free agent Peyton Manning. Analysis: Herald columnist Armando Salguero leaves open the door for the Dolphins, Broncos, Chiefs, Seahawks, and Cardinals. The Redskins are out, and so are the Jets. This is good news for the St. Louis Rams, who will maintain leverage in trade talks with Washington and Cleveland for the No. 2 overall pick in the draft. Manning is expected to sign with a team that wouldn't be heavily involved in the sweepstakes for Baylor QB Robert Griffin III.
    Wash should be turning their full attention to getting our pick now.

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