Nice post Rambos. An effective, cohesive, consistent OL is critical to a successful offense. I've always been a big proponent of a strong OL first, because IMO, everything else falls into place after you get that accomplished.
There is definitely something to be said for having explosive weapons, but a strong OL impacts every part of an offense and provides the opportunity for playmakers to flourish.
If Warmack is there at 16, I hope the Rams jump on him.
Let's say D.J. Fluker is there at #22. Do the Rams shift Saffold to LG and install Fluker at RT? When drafted, Saffold was considered a premier guard prospect and a questionable tackle prospect. I had read that Saffold would struggle moving to the Right (it's a bigger transition than people recognize) because he had never played on the right side before. It'll be interesting to watch.
The key to winning is having a great Oline and Dline. The Rams have a darn good Dline and with Long at LT, they are getting really close to having the O-line finally. Honestly though, we don't know, maybe they absolutely love Rok and see his as a premier LG candidate as good as Cooper.
RebelYell those are some good points. I don't think Saffold would be near the force inside that Warmack would be. Saffold will also be a FA after next year, not sure he will want to take a pay cut to stay and play inside when he has shown he can play tackle.
I agree there are other solid guards to be had, but will the Rams want solid vs dominating?
But my contention is that you don't have to have an all-pro at every position accross that line or in this case the "supposed best guard".
All you need is players who mesh well together to create that solid line.
Did GSOT have all-pros all accross the line? No. They had Pace and an aged Timmerman who developed into an all-pro, the rest were not what I would call great individual players but they meshed well, and the rest is history.
Here is the draft position of our starting O-line in 1999.
Andy McCollum C UNDRAFTED
Adam Timmerman OG 7th Round
Fred Miller RT 5th Round
Tom Nutten OG 7th Round
Orlando Pace LT 1st pick
Gentlemen, I rest my case.
It all starts up front...Quote:
By Ryan Van Bibber
Orlando Pace was the first step toward rebuilding the St. Louis Rams, the first key building block to the Greatest Show on Turf. Without Pace, there would have been no Kurt Warner...no Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce burning defenses...no Marshall Faulk double-threat. Good teams, even the ones that pass as much as the Greatest Show Rams did, start with a foundation up front, with the offensive line.
Lets take a peek at whats happening in today NFL.
9ers use two first round picks to build the best O line in the NFL
11th Pick Overall (1st Round) - Anthony Davis | Offensive Tackle | Rutger
17th Pick Overall (1st Round) - Mike Iupati | Offensive Guard | Idaho
PPF best O line
We all are sick of hearing how great Kap is as a QB. Whats not talked about is he is playing behind the best Line in the game.Quote:
1. San Francisco ***** (20)
PB – 10th, RB – 1st, PEN – 19th
Stud: Generally speaking, tackles don’t block like Joe Staley (+40.4). He’s better in pass protection than people will give him credit for (a shame for him that nearly a third of the pressure he allowed ended up as sacks), but it’s his run blocking that sets him apart from the rest.
Dud: There isn’t one. The worst you can say is that Jonathan Goodwin is a Top 10 center, whereas the rest of the guys are Top 3 at their positions.
Summary: Phenomenal. A near flawless collection of linemen. Most teams would kill for any one of the guys the ***** put out, yet they have five of them. The introduction of Alex Boone provided a huge boost, with Anthony Davis upping his game with better play next to them. They’re a young unit by offensive line standards and look set to dominate for a long time.
One team has gone to the SB and a championship game in the last two years... not us.Quote:
26. St Louis Rams (28)
PB – 21st, RB – 26th, PEN – 29th
Stud: After a rookie year where he got too much praise, and a sophomore season where he earned his criticism, I for one wasn’t expecting much from Rodger Saffold (+8.6). Color me wrong, as he excelled in pass protection, looking like the player he was drafted to be.
Dud: The Rams got a lot of sub-standard play from a lot of sub-standard players. None stood out more than Quinn Ojinnaka (-9.5) before he was replaced in the lineup and then cut.
Summary: Every time I write about the Rams’ line I wax lyrical about how it’s a miracle they finished as high as they did. They coped with injuries and filled in with guys who were flops elsewhere and managed to get a line on the field that wasn’t an embarrassment. There’s a long way to go, but kudos for that if nothing else.
Plus they lost the superbowl anyway, so who cares about them? Don't you know it's blasphemy to mention them in such glowing terms on this board?
If you want to rave about somebody, perhaps it's the Ravens where you might want to start. How do you view the Superbowl champions line?
Having read Jim Thomas, OG sounds like it would be unlikely unless it was Warmack and few think he'll be available at #16.