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    Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

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    Contributor Written on January 22, 2010



    With the first pick in the 2010 NFL Draft the St. Louis Rams should select someone other than Nebraska stud defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh.

    I know everyone will want the Rams to draft Suh with the No. 1 overall pick when the NFL Draft rolls around. But they should pass. Before you tell me I am crazy, think about one thing: When was the last time any defensive player selected at the top of the draft was an instant difference maker in dramatically improving his team the following season?

    It does not happen very often. Let's take the last two drafts as a small case study. Last April, many Atlanta Falcons fans wanted the team to draft LSU all-world defensive lineman Glenn Dorsey with the third overall pick. Instead, Atlanta selected Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan.

    Dorsey fell to the Kansas City Chiefs at No. 5. The Falcons made the playoffs in Ryan's rookie season, while Dorsey and Kansas City suffered another losing campaign.

    The Chiefs continued their struggles in 2009 and Dorsey has not even been heard of as it relates to being an impact player the pundits thought he would coming out of college. Dorsey, who was a terror in the SEC, has only recorded two sacks in two seasons.

    Although the Falcons will not be making a trip to the playoffs this year, Ryan did help the franchise attain consecutive winning seasons for the first time ever.

    Dan Snyder and the Washington Redskins threw $100 million at then free-agent inside lineman Albert Haynesworth believing he was the missing piece. It turned out that the missing piece was Sherman Lewis, who was called in midway through the season to help the putrid Jim Zorn-led offense.

    Going back to the 2009 NFL Draft, the Rams selected Virgina defensive end and son of network analyst Howie Long, Chris Long with the No. 2 pick. Long has had a much better start to his career than Dorsey—garnering nine sacks in two years—but the Rams are selecting at the top of the draft again.

    Suh is going to be a great player one day. I think. But the Rams need playmakers on the offensive side of the ball, and they need a bunch of them. Steven Jackson is the only real threat St. Louis has. However, the team is short at wide receiver and a quarterback. It can't be good when Kyle Boller, Keith Null and Mike Rielly are options at the most important position in the game.

    When Donny Avery is your best wide receiver, not even Suh throwing around offensive lineman can save you.

    Jimmy Clausen, Sam Bradford, and Colt McCoy are out there. Trade down and gather more picks.

    The NFL is an offensive league. All the rules are catered toward curbing defensive play. Defensive backs can't touch receivers past five yards and linemen are not allowed to breathe on quarterbacks these days.

    Suh is a player you grab when he becomes a free-agent or when your team is in a position to make a run for a postseason or Super Bowl berth. Not now when the Rams need to fill tons of needs. The Rams need about a dozen Suh's. Just one from Nebraska won't do.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    The rams are not likely to turn it around next year to the point they are in playoff hunt IMO take the best player available God knows we need him.
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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    Quote Originally Posted by eldfan View Post
    The rams are not likely to turn it around next year to the point they are in playoff hunt IMO take the best player available God knows we need him.
    Agreed. Taking a QB with the first pick certainly isn't going to dramatically turn things around, just ask the Lions. The Rams are in need of more than a few QUALITY players before they can turn anything around. Suh is the BPA and looks to be the safest bet. The Rams SHOULD draft Suh as the first in a series of steps back to respectability.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    You want to know the difference between Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez et. al. and Stafford and the sundry unsuccessful rookie QBs?

    The first three actually have good teams surrounding them. We don't have a good team to surround a rookie QB with. Taking Suh puts us in a situation to continue building a good team.

    Also, Dorsey vs. Ryan really isn't relevant since Kansas City has played him out of position throughout his career; presumably Atlanta wouldn't have.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    Quote Originally Posted by eldfan View Post
    When was the last time any defensive player selected at the top of the draft was an instant difference maker in dramatically improving his team the following season?
    When was a player of Suh's caliber available at the top of the draft?

    (I thought we were going to ban negative Suh threads )

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    I know everyone will want the Rams to draft Suh with the No. 1 overall pick when the NFL Draft rolls around. But they should pass. Before you tell me I am crazy, think about one thing: When was the last time any defensive player selected at the top of the draft was an instant difference maker in dramatically improving his team the following season?
    Suh is a player you grab when he becomes a free-agent or when your team is in a position to make a run for a postseason or Super Bowl berth.
    It seems like the author is arguing two contrary points here. If Suh isn't capable of making an immediate difference, then why would he be a good fit for a team in a position to make a run in the post-season? A team in that position would likely be looking for guys who could make immediate impacts since they're ready to win immediately. If the writer acknowledges that Suh would be a good fit for such a team, then he's contradicted his earlier point that Suh isn't likely to be an instant difference maker.

    Furthermore, while you obviously want high picks to make as much impact as they can early on, I don't know many teams who look at high first round picks solely for immediate results. When you take a guy that high, you expect him to be a difference maker for a long time, not just the following season.

    I do appreciate though that the author seems to agree that if the Rams are going to take an offensive player, they need to trade down to make that happen.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    This is an embarresment to all rams fans. First Ryan was surrounded with talent like Tony Gonzalez, Roddy White, and Michael Turner. That was the year turner got 1.500 yard season and that was when they went to the playoffs. Now turner only got 900 and they didn't reach the playoffs.. still all Matt Ryan?

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    I hate when people use Albert Haynesworth as the case against drafting a defensive lineman early. He was a free agent acquisition and then missed a third of the season! And people ignore the fact that the defensive player the Redskins did draft was a Pro Bowler as a rookie.

    Articles like this one cherry-pick their examples to make their case. The truth is that it's rare for any player to single-handedly change their team's fortunes in the first year.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    It seems to me that the author makes his case largely on looking at the last 2-3 years and the success of Matt Ryan. Its inspired by the thought of a 1 year turnaround at the Falcons and as a consequence, its extremely selective.

    There aren't many picks at any position who provide immediate impact in their first year. Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman and Marshall Faulk would be but three I could name that are headed to the hall of fame but didn't provide an instant turnaround for their franchises. That Ryan did involved a good supporting cast and some decent fortune but that in itself isn't reason enough not to take the best player available with the #1 pick.

    It might be that we opt to trade out of the #1 spot in order to gather more choices in the knowledge that we need infusions of talent almost everywhere and that's a decision I'll understand. What I wouldn't understand is remaining at #1 and not drafting Suh in the hope that a rookie QB can do a Ryan.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    This article is...really bad. There are numerous points where he just contradicts himself, and leaves out really important pieces to the puzzle. Nick and others pointed most of them out, so I won't bother repeating them.

    I'm usually not this negative about things like this, but this is a poor attempt to spark controversy over one of the most certain top picks to come out in a good while.

    I'd like to point out a few names in recent years: Sedrick Ellis and Jared Mayo from last year have made great impacts to their teams. The year before that had Patrick Willis and Darrell Revis, who have both been great. 2006 had Mario Williams, 2005 DeMarcus Ware, etc.

    Granted these guys weren't all picked in the top 5, but are all playmakers. His article made it sound like defensive players shouldn't even be bothered to be picked in the first round, they're so unnecessary.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    Well I figure we could either draft Suh and pay a legitimate and eventual starter by all likelihood money that he'll earn or pay a QB the uber-bucks he'll demand...or take a guy like LeFevour or Skinner and pay them a fraction. If they work out, great. If not? There's your backup for 2011's pick.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    Wasn't Mario Williams drafted number one over Reggie Bush and everyone freaked out? Seems to me its a no brainer in retrospect.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    Quote Originally Posted by chiguy View Post
    Wasn't Mario Williams drafted number one over Reggie Bush and everyone freaked out? Seems to me its a no brainer in retrospect.

    You are indeed correct.

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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    Haynesworth? DORSEY?!?!? Are you freakin' kidding me with this garbage article. DORSEY?!?!? Ahhhhrrrrrrrghhhh!

    Anyone figured out how to contact the rookie that wrote this article? Must be a Lions or Tampa fan.
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    Re: Why The St.Louis Rams Should Not Draft Ndamukong Suh

    Quote Originally Posted by Blankman17 View Post
    Well I figure we could either draft Suh and pay a legitimate and eventual starter by all likelihood money that he'll earn or pay a QB the uber-bucks he'll demand...or take a guy like LeFevour or Skinner and pay them a fraction. If they work out, great. If not? There's your backup for 2011's pick.
    They'll be the backup to our 2011 pick? The one you want to take in the first round (Locker/Mallet) who are going to want uber-bucks? Just like if we draft a QB this year?

    Not saying Suh's a bad pick, he's a great pick in fact (according to college stats). Just saying that eventually we'll in all likely hood have to pay a QB uber-bucks no matter what.

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