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    Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    Here are the full list of wonderlic scores from combine. I don't think they mean too much on the defense side of the ball (except for safeties and middle linebackers). I think they mean more to offensive players, especially those that have to make reads and learn the Rams complicated playbook. The concern is that neither Brown (12) or Barnes (16) did all that great. The average is 21.9 with average for OT about 25, with Center and QB having the highest average position score (read and make decisions positions, followed by TE's and ILB (same read and make decisions). The lowest are the reaction positions (WR, CB, RB). Here are the average scores by position, and then the full list individually. I think in the past the Rams have looked at this favorably (didn't Curtis score high).

    Pos. Avg.

    (C) 28.2
    (QB) 27.8
    (TE) 25.6
    (ILB) 25.4
    (OT) 25.3
    (P) 24
    (OG) 23.4
    (K) 23.2
    (OLB) 22.2
    (FS) 21.6
    (DE) 20.3
    (DT) 20.0
    (SS) 19.5
    (FB) 19.3
    (CB) 19.2
    (RB) 18
    (WR) 17.9


    Hangartner, Geoff (C) Texas AM 47

    Smith, Alex* (QB) Utah 40

    Miller, Heath* (TE) Virginia 39

    Frye, Charlie (QB) Akron 38

    Fitzpatrick, Ryan (QB) Harvard 38

    Castillo, Luis (DT) Northwestern 37

    Bajema, Billy (TE) Oklahoma State 37

    Baas, David (OG) Michigan 37

    Berger, Joe (OT) Michigan Tech 36

    Bartell, Ronald (CB) Howard 35

    Ruud, Barrett (ILB) Nebraska 35

    Rodgers, Aaron* (QB) California 35

    LeFors, Stefan (QB) Louisville 35

    Kieft, Adam (OT) Central Michigan 34

    Benekos, Bryce (P) UTEP 34

    Ochs, Craig (QB) Montana 34

    Grigsby, Boomer (ILB) Illinois State 34

    Brown, Tim (OT) West Virginia 34

    Canty, Chris (DE) Virginia 34

    Preston, Duke (C) Illinois 33

    Considine, Sean (FS) Iowa 33

    Jones, Tyler (K) Boise State 33

    Riddle, Ryan (DE) California 33

    Britt, Wesley (OT) Alabama 33

    Seward, Adam (ILB) UNLV 33

    Jackson, Vincent (WR) Northern Colorado 33

    Swancutt, Bill (DE) Oregon State 32

    Smith, Alex (TE) Stanford 32

    Pears, Erik (OT) Colorado State 32

    Incognito, Richie* (C) Nebraska 32

    Brown, Jason (C) North Carolina 32

    Buenning, Dan (OG) Wisconsin 32

    Essex, Trai (OT) Northwestern 32

    Wilson, Stanley (CB) Stanford 31

    Nienhuis, Doug (OG) Oregon State 31

    Walter, Andrew (QB) Arizona State 31

    Mankins, Logan (OG) Fresno State 31

    Burnett, Kevin (OLB) Tennessee 30

    Atogwe, O.J. (FS) Stanford 30

    Newberry, Jared (OLB) 30

    Moore, Lance (WR) Toledo 30

    Boley, Michael (OLB) 30

    Haldi, Josh (QB) Northern Illinois 30

    Guidugli, Gino (QB) Cincinnati 30

    Crowder, Channing* (ILB) 30

    Pollack, David (DE) Georgia 30

    Orlovsky, Dan (QB) Connecticut 30

    Loper, Daniel (OT) Texas Tech 30

    Fraser, Simon (DE) Ohio State 29

    Alabi, Anthony (OT) TCU 29

    Cody, Shaun (DT) Southern Cal 29

    Alexander, Lorenzo (DT) California 29

    Kaczur, Nick (OT) Toledo 29

    Geisinger, Justin (OT) Vanderbilt 29

    Crafts, Jonas (TE) UTEP 29

    Roos, Michael (OT) Eastern Washington 29

    Tuck, Justin* (DE) Notre Dame 29

    Tatupu, Lofa* (ILB) Southern Cal 29

    Connolly, Dan (OT) SE Missouri State 29

    Griffeth, Kelly (TE) Fort Hays State 28

    Mruczkowski, Scott (C) Bowling Green 28

    Abdullah, Hamza (SS) Washington State 28

    Campbell, Jason (QB) Auburn 28

    Ezekiel, Liam (ILB) Northeastern 28

    Elimimian, Abraham (CB) Hawaii 28

    Dahl, Harvey (OT) Nevada 28

    Holmes, Alex (TE) Southern Cal 28

    Sheldon, Dan (WR) Northern Illinois 28

    Patterson, Martin (ILB) TCU 28

    Gandy, Dylan (OG) Texas Tech 28

    Petitti, Rob (OT) Pittsburgh 28

    Jackson, Tony (TE) 28

    Edwards, Braylon (WR) 27

    Orton, Kyle (QB) Purdue 27

    Payne, Matt (K) BYU 27

    Bragg, Craig (WR) UCLA 27

    Snyder, Adam (OG) Oregon 27

    Armstrong, Calvin (OT) Washington State 27

    Beck, Jordan (OLB) Cal Poly 27

    Bergen, Adam (TE) Lehigh 27

    Long, Dustin (QB) Sam Houston State 27

    Colmer, Chris (OT) North Carolina St 26

    McPherson, Adrian* (QB) Florida State 26

    Conway, Atcheson (SS) Bowie State 26

    Tuiasosopo, Zach (FB) Washington 26

    Collins, Jerome (TE) Notre Dame 26

    Goolsby, Mike (ILB) Notre Dame 26

    Grant, Ryan (RB) Notre Dame 26

    Chang, Timmy (QB) Hawaii 26

    Hodgdon, Drew (C) Arizona State 26

    Grootegoed, Matt (OLB) Southern Cal 26

    Pearman, Alvin (RB) Virginia 26

    Terry, Adam (OT) Syracuse 26

    Bulman, Tim (DT) Boston College 26

    Rix, Chris (QB) Florida State 26

    Ellison, Atiyyah (DT) Missouri 26

    Johnson, Travis (DT) Florida State 25

    Washington, Fabian* (CB) Nebraska 25

    Williams, Darrent (CB) Oklahoma State 25

    Hawthorne, Anttaj (DT) Wisconsin 25

    Wilder, Sam (OT) Colorado 25

    Herron, Noah (RB) Northwestern 25

    Myers, Chris (OG) Miami (FL) 25

    Hill, Leroy (ILB) Clemson 25

    Poppinga, Brady (DE) BYU 25

    Dreessen, Joel (TE) Colorado State 25

    Morrison, Kirk (ILB) San Diego State 25

    Frazier, Andre (DE) Cincinnati 25

    Starks, Scott (CB) Wisconsin 25

    Welsh, Jonathan (OLB) Wisconsin 25

    Munoz, Michael (OT) Tennessee 25

    Wilkerson, Ben (C) LSU 25

    Hodges, Reggie (P) Ball State 25

    Mathis, Evan (OG) Alabama 25

    Hunt, Rob (C) North Dakota State 25

    Dougherty, Ben (QB) Florida A&M 25

    Ghiaciuc, Eric (C) Central Michigan 24

    Cooper, Roger (OLB) Montana State 24

    Leonhard, Jim (FS) Wisconsin 24

    Underwood, Marviel (FS) San Diego State 24

    Francisco, Aaron (FS) BYU 24

    Pollard, Jonathan (OLB) Oregon State 24

    Lyman, Chase (WR) California 24

    Brooks, C.J. (OG) Maryland 24

    Willis, Ray (OT) Florida State 24

    Harmon, Jason (FS) Michigan State 24

    Davis, Anthony (RB) Wisconsin 24

    Fuller, Vincent (FS) Virginia Tech 24

    Hedge****, Madison (FB) North Carolina 24

    Curry, Markus (CB) Michigan 24

    Watson, Mike (OT) West Virginia 24

    King, Tyler (DE) Connecticut 23

    Duckett, Adell (DE) Texas Tech 23

    Currie, Airese (WR) Clemson 23

    Nugent, Mike (K) Ohio State 23

    Anderson, Derek (QB) Oregon State 23

    Terrell, Claude (OG) New Mexico 23

    Routt, Stanford (CB) Houston 23

    Shelton, Eric* (RB) Louisville 23

    Bigby, Atari (SS) Central Florida 23

    Brown, Ronnie (RB) Auburn 23

    West, Isaac (WR) Furman 23

    Hodge, Alphonso (CB) Miami (OH) 22

    Williams, Carnell (RB) Auburn 22

    Holley, Terry (SS) Rice 22

    Steitz, Nick (OG) Oregon 22

    Rayner, Dave (K) Michigan State 22

    Miller, Justin* (CB) Clemson 22

    Coleman, Eric (DT) Clemson 22

    Wallace, Rian* (OLB) Temple 22

    Finley, Adam (P) Michigan 22

    Sims, Wes (OT) Oklahoma 22

    White, Jason (QB) Oklahoma 21

    Johnson, Derrick (OLB) Texas 21

    Clayton, Mark (WR) Oklahoma 21

    Cody, Dan (DE) Oklahoma 21

    Jackson, Marlin (CB) Michigan 21

    Dudley, Kevin (FB) Michigan 21

    McMahon, Pete (OT) Iowa 21

    Kashetta, Dave (TE) Boston College 21

    Fincher, Alfred (ILB) Connecticut 21

    Rolle, Antrel (CB) Miami (FL) 21

    Fox, Dustin (FS) Ohio State 21

    Davis, Jim (DE) Virginia Tech 21

    Sensabaugh, Gerald (FS) North Carolina 21

    Wake, Derek (OLB) Penn State 21

    Sproles, Darren (RB) Kansas State 21

    Pouha, Sione (DT) Utah 21

    Gates, Lionel (RB) Louisville 21

    Jefferson, Jason (DT) Wisconsin 21

    Enzor, Jamar (OLB) Cincinnati 21

    Lawrence, Marcus (ILB) South Carolina 21

    Williamson, Troy* (WR) South Carolina 21

    Colquitt, Dustin (P) Tennessee 21

    Lightbody, Sam (OT) Washington State 21

    Johnson, Derrick (CB) Washington 21

    Beriault, Justin (FS) Ball State 20

    Ware, DeMarcus (DE) Troy 20

    Buckles, Doug (OG) Mississippi 20

    Jacobs, Brandon (RB) Southern Illinois 20

    McCune, Robert (ILB) Louisville 20

    McKenzie, Chris (CB) Arizona State 20

    Maddox, Andre (SS) North Carolina St 20

    Weeks, Marquis (SS) Virginia 20

    Foxworth, Domonique (CB) Maryland 20

    Novak, Nick (K) Maryland 20

    Roby, Courtney (WR) Indiana 20

    Thorpe, Cro (WR) Florida State 20

    Thomas, Benard (DE) Nebraska 20

    Perkins, Antonio (CB) Oklahoma 20

    Williams, Mike* (WR) Southern Cal 20

    Perry, Tab (WR) UCLA 20

    Harris, Marques (OLB) Southern Utah 20

    Omiyale, Frank (OT) Tennessee Tech 20

    Coston, Junius (C) North Carolina AT 19

    Allen, Jared (QB) Florida Atlantic 19

    Huntley, Kevin (DE) Kansas State 19

    Mathis, Jerome (WR) Hampton 19

    Clarett, Maurice* (RB) Ohio State 19

    McGruder, Lynn (DT) Oklahoma 19

    Matthews, Will (FB) Texas 19

    Benson, Cedric (RB) Texas 19

    McFadden, Bryant (CB) Florida State 19

    Barron, Alex (OT) Florida State 19

    Mosley, C.J.* (DT) Missouri 19

    Bullocks, Josh* (FS) Nebraska 19

    Merriman, Shawne* (DE) Maryland 19

    Davis, Thomas* (FS) Georgia 19

    Gibson, Fred (WR) Georgia 19

    Greene, David (QB) Georgia 19

    Goddard, Johnathan (OLB) Marshall 19

    Randall, Bryan (QB) Virginia Tech 19

    King, Eric (CB) Wake Forest 19

    Purify, Bobby (RB) Colorado 19

    Browner, Brandon* (CB) Oregon State 19

    Williams, Aric (CB) Oregon State 19

    Emanuel, Ben (FS) UCLA 19

    Hagler, Tyjuan (OLB) Cincinnati 19

    Parquet, Jeremy (OT) Southern Miss 19

    Spencer, Chris* (C) Mississippi 19

    Awasom, Adrian (DE) North Texas 19

    Wortham, Cornelius (OLB) Alabama 19

    Jones, Matt (TE) Arkansas 19

    Ridgeway, Dante* (WR) Ball State 18

    Moats, Ryan* (RB) Louisiana Tech 18

    Rhodes, Kerry (FS) Louisville 18

    Russell, J.R. (WR) Louisville 18

    Verdon, Jimmy (DE) Arizona State 18

    Claridge, Ryan (OLB) UNLV 18

    Clinkscale, Jonathan (OG) Wisconsin 18

    McLendon, T.A.* (RB) North Carolina St 18

    Dunn, Jon (OT) Virginia Tech 18

    Green, Eric (CB) Virginia Tech 18

    Brown, Reggie (WR) Georgia 18

    Butler, James (FS) Georgia Tech 18

    Farden, Cole (P) Oklahoma State 18

    Scaife, Bo (TE) Texas 18

    Ferri, Diamond (SS) Syracuse 18

    Broughton, Nehemiah (RB) The Citadel 18

    McCoy, Leron (WR) Indiana (Pa.) 18

    Pettway, Kenneth (OLB) Grambling State 18

    Young, Scott (OG) BYU 17

    Brackins, Larry* (WR) Pearl River (CC) 17

    Robinson, Derreck (DT) 17

    Robinson, Leon (OG) Georgia Tech 17

    Davis, Josh (WR) Marshall 17

    James, Erasmus (DE) Wisconsin 17

    Warren, Paris (WR) Utah 17

    White Jr., Manuel (FB) UCLA 17

    White, Roddy (WR) UAB 17

    Green, Justin (FB) Montana 17

    Houston, Cedric (RB) Tennessee 17

    Johnson, Marcus (OG) Mississippi 17

    Stewart, David (OT) Mississippi State 17

    Birmingham, DeCori (RB) Arkansas 17

    Barnes, Khalif (OT) Washington 16

    Fields, Ronald (DT) Mississippi State 16

    Holly, Daven (CB) Cincinnati 16

    McMillan, David (DE) Kansas 16

    Madison, Tony (WR) Kansas State 16

    Blackstock, Darryl* (OLB) Virginia 16

    Burns, Vincent (DE) Kentucky 16

    Barber III, Marion* (RB) Minnesota 16

    Fason, Ciatrick* (RB) Florida 16

    Roth, Matt (DE) Iowa 16

    Shazor, Ernest* (SS) Michigan 16

    Cobb, DeAndra (RB) Michigan State 16

    Pool, Brodney* (FS) Oklahoma 16

    Stovall, Chauncey (WR) Florida State 16

    Jones, Brandon (WR) Oklahoma 15

    Nicholson, Donte (SS) Oklahoma 15

    Dukes, Clifford (DE) Michigan State 15

    Murphy, Terrence (WR) Texas AM 15

    Hobbs, Ellis (CB) Iowa State 15

    Shropshire, Darrell (DT) South Carolina 15

    Curtis, Tony (TE) Portland State 15

    Paymah, Karl (CB) Washington State 15

    Bryant, Anthony (DT) Alabama 14

    Hudson, Ray (RB) Alabama 14

    Rogers, Carlos (CB) Auburn 14

    Owens, Chad (WR) Hawaii 14

    Gause, George (DE) South Carolina 14

    Haye, Jovan* (DE) Vanderbilt 14

    Cole, Trent (OLB) Cincinnati 14

    Kemoeatu, Chris (OG) Utah 14

    Arrington, J.J. (RB) California 14

    Rheem, Joe (K) Kansas State 14

    Vickerson, Kevin (DT) Michigan State 14

    Colon, Jon (OT) Florida 14

    Mitchell, Lance (ILB) Oklahoma 14

    Collins, Nick (FS) Bethune-Cookman 14

    Carter, Jerome (SS) Florida State 13

    Babineaux, Jonathan (DT) Iowa 13

    Jones, Adam* (CB) West Virginia 13

    Marshall, Rasheed (WR) West Virginia 13

    Berlin, Brock (QB) Miami (FL) 13

    Long, Khari (DE) Baylor 13

    Brown, Elton (OG) Virginia 13

    Savoy, Steve* (WR) Utah 13

    Harrell, Reggie (WR) TCU 13

    Brimmer, Jamaal (SS) UNLV 13

    Wishom, Jerron (CB) Louisiana Tech 13

    Webster, Corey (CB) LSU 12

    Haynes, Alex (RB) Central Florida 12

    Frederick, Charles (WR) Washington 12

    Means, Albert (DT) Memphis 12

    Burt, Larry (DT) Miami (OH) 12

    Everett, Kevin (TE) Miami (FL) 12

    Thurman, Odell* (ILB) Georgia 12

    Hayden, Kelvin (CB) Illinois 12

    Harris, Kay-Jay (RB) West Virginia 12

    Brown, Jammal (OT) Oklahoma 12

    Manus, Tommy (WR) Morgan State 12

    Hill, Efrem (WR) Samford 12

    Rector, Jamaica (WR) Northwest Missouri State 12

    Joseph, Keith (FB) Texas AM 11

    Morency, Vernand* (RB) Oklahoma State 11

    Davis, Chauncey (DE) Florida State 11

    Bradley, Mark (WR) Oklahoma 11

    Reyes, Walter (RB) Syracuse 11

    Daniels, Travis (CB) LSU 10

    Parrish, Roscoe* (WR) Miami (FL) 10

    Gilmore, Howard (WR) Norfolk State 10

    Reid, Lamont (CB) North Carolina St 9

    Henry, Chris* (WR) West Virginia 9

    Moore, Eric (DE) Florida State 9

    Montgomery, Mike (DE) Texas AM 9

    Patterson, Mike (DT) Southern Cal 9

    Williams, Cedrick (CB) Kansas State 8

    Gore, Frank* (RB) Miami (FL) 6


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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    Parrish, Roscoe* (WR) Miami (FL) 10
    Gilmore, Howard (WR) Norfolk State 10
    Reid, Lamont (CB) North Carolina St 9
    Henry, Chris* (WR) West Virginia 9
    Moore, Eric (DE) Florida State 9
    Montgomery, Mike (DE) Texas AM 9
    Patterson, Mike (DT) Southern Cal 9
    Williams, Cedrick (CB) Kansas State 8
    Gore, Frank* (RB) Miami (FL) 6
    I'm real curious to see how many of these Einsteins show up in the Postons' stable.
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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    Fitzpatrick, Ryan (QB) Harvard 38
    I thought ESPN was reporting that he made a perfect score. Only the 2nd one in the history of the combine.
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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    I think total score also includes a time component so he might have gotten them all right but took more time.

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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    Frank Gore - 6
    Roscoe Parrish - 10
    Kevin Everett - 12
    Brock Berlin - 13
    Antrel Rolle - 21
    Chris Myers - 25
    Man AV, good thing they can play football down there in Miami. :redface:
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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    Quote Originally Posted by ramhard
    I think total score also includes a time component so he might have gotten them all right but took more time.
    Actually, the article said he set some kind of record in fastest time too...completed it in a little over 9 minutes.
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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison
    Man AV, good thing they can play football down there in Miami. :redface:
    Well, I won't stick up for the undergraduate program at UM (I went there for Law School), but I also suspect that some of the really low scores come from players who don't even try on the exam because they don't care.

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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    so that rb frank gore actually does know that hes playing football right? a score of 6? either he didnt try at all, or its a bad multiple choice test that he just but "a" as the answer for all the questions hopeing for the best or hes going to have a hard time knowing which direction to run the ball when he gets it......." no frank the other way!!!!" :tongue:

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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    Quote Originally Posted by ramsfan1975
    so that rb frank gore actually does know that hes playing football right? a score of 6? either he didnt try at all, or its a bad multiple choice test that he just but "a" as the answer for all the questions hopeing for the best or hes going to have a hard time knowing which direction to run the ball when he gets it......." no frank the other way!!!!" :tongue:
    IIRC, Gore was placed in "special education" when he was in high school. He was obviously a talented athlete, but everyone told him he'd never go to college no matter how good at football he was, because he just wasn't smart enough. Well, he made his way into Miami, and according to the story I saw, he's worked very hard to earn his degree.

    That apparently doesn't translate on the Wonderlic, but it's a good story.
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    Gore - learning disability

    While we are trashing Gore for being dumb, he actually has a documented learning disability. So it is very difficult for him to do well on timed tests - he is dyslexic plus other issues. Of all the cases, he is one that I wouldn't ridicule. Now the others (especially Brock Berlin - a QB!!!!!) now they are open game.

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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    gee thanks guys now i feel like a real jerk.......if i knew he had a learning disability (my wife has one also) i would have picked on someone else..it was only meant for the sake of fun in jest.....ill go and hide now.... :upset:

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    Re: Wonderlic Scores from Combine

    While we are trashing Gore for being dumb, he actually has a documented learning disability.
    I don't think anyone is trashing Gore. Actually I mentioned earlier that he had to be in special ed during high school and was discouraged from going to college. Now he's going to get his degree. In fact, that is something he should be proud of. Regardless of what he does in the NFL, he's already done more than anyone gave him credit for.
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