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Are you a mock draft tool?

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...771&Category=1


So there you are, a pathetic gridiron junkie so desperate for a football fix that you’re poring over mock drafts in preparation for the real deal next weekend.

Well, here’s some advice: Don’t waste your f’in time.

Pick up a new hobby. Read a book. Play with your kids. Make some Canadian bacon. Roll up a massive ball of belly-button lint.

Any and all these pursuits are more fulfilling, valuable and useful than the mock draft.

As we chronicled last year, mock drafts are woefully inaccurate. This year’s mock drafts will be no exception. The mock drafts you are reading WILL BE WRONG!!! You have our guarantee.

So, if you know what you’re reading is destined to be wrong, why bother reading it? It’s one of those mysteries, like why they still teach Marxism in college, that we just don’t understand. If something doesn’t work, it’s doesn’t pay to spend any time on it.

We will have plenty on the draft over the next two weeks, highlighted by what you can expect based upon historical standards, a look at all-time best and worst drafts and picks, and a post-draft round-up.

But you will never, ever, ever in the history of Cold, Hard Football Facts.com find a mock draft – and for good reason.

You will not find a mock draft here because the Cold, Hard Football Facts deal only in reality and useful information. We do not deal in speculation. And, ultimately, that’s all a mock draft is: rampant speculation.

Even worse – it’s rampant speculation that’s destined to be wildly inaccurate.

Don’t believe us? Here’s how six noted experts – three writers and three draft specialists – fared last year predicting just the first round of the 2005 draft. The best guessed accurately on just 13 of 32 players. That’s the best. And when it came to picking the position that teams would look to fill with their first draft pick, none of the experts we looked at were right even half the time. Not one. They didn’t even need the player’s name. Just the position the team would look to fill. That’s all we asked for. But even with these low standards, the “pundits” failed more often than they succeeded. While .437 makes for a tremendous
batting average, it makes for a lousy gauge of the draft.

2005 mock draft success
"Pundit" Correct Players Correct Positions
Scouts Inc. 13 of 32 (40.6%) 15 of 32 (46.9%)
Pete Prisco 10 of 32 (31.2%) 14 of 32 (43.7%)
Jay Glazer 9 of 32 (31.2%) 14 of 32 (43.7%)
Mel Kiper 8 of 32 (25%) 14 of 32 (43.7%)
OurLads.com 8 of 32 (25%) 14 of 32 (43.7%)
Ron Borges 4 of 32 (12.5%) 13 of 32 (40.6%)


(Is anyone surprised that Ron Borges of the Boston Globe finished dead last? Further proof that the Broadsheet Bully knows nothing about football.)

In any case, like we said, if you’re looking at mock drafts, you’re wasting your time.

Sure, there tends to be some semblance of accuracy in the first few picks – as if you need Mel Kiper to tell you Reggie Bush will be the No. 1 or No. 2 pick this year. Didn’t your already know that?

As you get late in the first round, mock drafts become a crapshoot led by a mute seeing-eye dog. By the second round and beyond, mock drafts are a complete disaster. Teams change their decisions on the fly. Players they hoped to get are already gone. Players they did not expect to get are still sitting there when their pick rolls around. A trade offer comes in over the phone. Picks are bundled and traded. Teams move up and down the board. Needs and player valuations change pick by pick.

If you're reading a first-round mock draft, well, it's a free country. Go ahead. But if you're reading a mock draft that goes beyond the first round, you deserve a lifetime pass to Pigskin Detention.

Put most simply, even the greatest, most insightful expert in history has no idea how things are going to play out on draft day, especially once you get beyond the blue-chip first-round picks that everybody knows about. Even the teams themselves have no idea how it will play out. They know what they HOPE will happen, but they have no idea what WILL happen.

So, if the folks who are actually making the picks have no idea how it’s going to go, how can the mock drafters expect to know?

They don’t.

Here’s what the mock drafters do know: They know you’re a pathetic football junkie, going through the pigskin DTs right now as you await kickoff. The people who publish mock drafts are simply f**kin' with your mind.

Don’t be a tool for the mock drafters. They’re not your friend. Only the Cold, Hard Football Facts are your friend.
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Re: Are you a mock draft tool?

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You will not find a mock draft here because the Cold, Hard Football Facts deal only in reality
Which is why they have fantasy football on their site. LOL
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Re: Are you a mock draft tool?

So, let me get this straight... its a waste of time to read up on the draft because mock drafts are never accurate...?

By the same reasoning, every publication that predicts stock performance, forecasts the weather, postulates on the likely outcome of a future election, or speculates about any future event is a waste of time.

I, for one, don't read mock drafts because I think they are likely to be highly accurate. I know they are not. I do my own mocks every year and two things are certain (1) I will make more accurate picks than at least some of the "experts," and (2) I still won't get a high percentage right.

Its the uncertainty that makes it fun. If everyone knew exactly who was going to be picked by each team, the draft would be no fun at all.

So, read as many mock drafts as you want - and make your own! Then, when you pick 14 choices correctly to Mel Kiper's 12, you can boast how you beat the guru! Heck, I'm still boasting about how I was pretty much the only person who predicted that the Rams would take a running back in Round 1 two years ago!

Or, if you're just not a draftnik, put on a baseball game. If you hurry, you might get to watch that 7th unsuccessful pick-off attempt in the 6th inning of a 8-2 game being played by two teams that have absolutely no chance of making the postseason in the next five years.
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Re: Are you a mock draft tool?

Well, I do seriously resemble a pathetic gridiron junkie
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Re: Are you a mock draft tool?

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By the same reasoning, every publication that predicts stock performance, forecasts the weather, postulates on the likely outcome of a future election, or speculates about any future event is a waste of time.
That's a nice point there. Therfore, reading this post on the speculation of the "infernal waste of time" that is a mock draft, was also... dare i say it, as pointless as a mock draft itself?
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Re: Are you a mock draft tool?

I have a certain symapthy for the premise of this thread as mock's do tend to get done to death. But, having said that, if it means that we get to discuss the relative merits of those contained within and how they could help our team, I think they're reasonably useful.

I think the most original thing that was done on these boards was the mods mock draft and it'll be interesting to see how that fares as far as accuracy goes.
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Re: Are you a mock draft tool?

Well, if we get Huff at 11.....I'll be estatic.
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Preaching to the choir txramsfan, preaching to the choir! (BTW...Rams take Vernon Davis in the first round)
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Re: Are you a mock draft tool?

Davis will be gone by the whiners unfortunately....however, I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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They're not bright enough to draft him!
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