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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    I love Glory (Morgan Freeman = one of the most underrated actors in film today), but I think I've only seen bits and pieces of Gettysburg.


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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Want to see some "Best Picture" award winners that are really good movies? Here's my picks:

    1. The Best Years of Our Lives 1946
    2. The Bridge on the River Kwai 1957
    3. Ben-Hur 1959
    4. It Happened One Night 1934
    5. Casablanca 1942

    Now, you young whipper-snappers may not appreciate these films as much as us old fogeys do, but they are great pictures. Something about these films really touches people, something that seems to be lacking in the newer releases. Seriously, would you guys rather see Spock's funeral in ST II:TWOK or see two guys in cowboy hats swapping DNA?

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamsFanSam
    Seriously, would you guys rather see Spock's funeral in ST II:TWOK or see two guys in cowboy hats swapping DNA?

    Both Are Equally Gay . I joke...But I always hated Star Trek.

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Personally I think just about every Best Picture winner since the early 1970s has been a very good film, and numerous have been very successful as well. I'm not too familiar with as many from the pre-70s, though there are a lot of good movies there I have seen such as the ones RFS has mentioned.

    But I'm just not sure the view of the Oscars as being elitist holds much ground when movies like Lord of the Rings, Gladiator, and Titanic have all recently taken home the top prize. When you have such a large library of movies for a specific year, obviously some of the lesser known ones are going to have good qualities that need to be recognized.

    Look at it from a football perspective. The best players don't always come from the biggest powerhouse programs.

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    All great Civil War movies apparently must start with the letter "G."

    Gettysburg
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    Don't forget Gods and Generals!

    I think you have a point here!

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    With Acadamy members being bombarded by studio lobbying tatics to elicit their votes, movies with agenda's becoming a major trend and winner acceptance speeches laced with political statements, the Oscars are looking more and more like a national party convention and less and less like an awards show.

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Why did they make a movie about gay cowboys? Is that a political agenda? Personally I don't want to see Heath Ledger kissing a dude. I like for the good looking people to be nice and normal. Not that I mind gay people, but I don't want Heath to be gay. I heard some negative reviews for Brokeback Mountain that criticised the storyline.

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtterBlitz
    Personally I don't want to see Heath Ledger kissing a dude.
    And there are probably a lot of homosexuals out there that want to see a movie they can relate to and feel good about. I'm sure they don't exactly like having their community stereotyped through movies such as Boat Trip.

    Why did Hollywood make a movie about gay cowboys? I don't know, but my question would instead be "why not?"

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    I don't have a problem with the fact that they are gay cowboys. I just don't like cowboy movies.

    But let's not pretend that this is the first movie ever to portray a gay couple in a positive manner. Frankly, I thought some of the scenes between Robin Williams and Nathan Lane in The Birdcage were some of the most well written and sensitive scenes about an old "married" couple in recent movie history. That movie was funny and entertaining, though. I wonder if I'd find Brokeback Mountain entertaining. Who knows, maybe I'll rent it. Maybe not.

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    I don't have a problem with the fact that they are gay cowboys. I just don't like cowboy movies.

    But let's not pretend that this is the first movie ever to portray a gay couple in a positive manner. Frankly, I thought some of the scenes between Robin Williams and Nathan Lane in The Birdcage were some of the most well written and sensitive scenes about an old "married" couple in recent movie history. That movie was funny and entertaining, though. I wonder if I'd find Brokeback Mountain entertaining. Who knows, maybe I'll rent it. Maybe not.
    I must admit, The Bird Cage was a great movie.

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    But let's not pretend that this is the first movie ever to portray a gay couple in a positive manner.
    That wasn't my intention, but I also hope we're not pretending that there are plenty of adequate movies out there for gay couples to relate to in which they don't see themselves as comic relief.

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    I don't think there is any comic relief in Brokeback Mountain. From what I hear, it is about forbidden love that is hard to resist no matter the consequences to the people involved.

    The Birdcage was a good movie. I agree.
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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtterBlitz
    I don't think there is any comic relief in Brokeback Mountain. From what I hear, it is about forbidden love that is hard to resist no matter the consequences to the people involved.

    The Birdcage was a good movie. I agree.
    Nick I just rented Crash just so that I can feel more educated and cultured.
    You'll enjoy Crash, I hope. It's not a feel good movie, but is definitely the best film I've seen this year.

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    Is it a "feel bad" movie? Or just a complicated movie?

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    Re: Has the Box Office/Academy Award Gap Become Too Large?

    I dunno. I don't think it's feel bad, but there are ups and downs throughout the film. Lots of different plots all wound together.

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