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  • Barry Bonds

    In my humble opinion, I believe Barry Bonds is underrated as a baseball player. Some of you are going to look at this and say, "Tx, BB underrated? He is always on the news?" Yea, but not always focused on baseball. This guy has one of the best gloves in the game, runs the bases well, and who has a better eye in baseball than Barry currently? Not to mention, FIVE HR's to start the season in the first four games.

    Last year was no fluke, Barry has been proving how good he is his entire career. His one major flaw: Has NEVER had a decent postseason.

  • #2
    Biggest ego in the universe. Was extremely rude to St. Louis media, especially one of the "nice guy" reporters. It was so bad, one of the anchors called Bonds a loser while they were still on the air. Too bad he had to be the one to top Mac.

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    • #3
      Your right, his attitude sucks. Talent wise though, you have to give it to him.

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      • #4
        Talent fine, but he's an ass and for that reason alone i would not want him on my team - even if he hits 100 HR's. He'll never win the World Series because of his attitude. Every player needs to lie down for the rest of the team. If you were a Giant, would you feel like Bonds would lie down for you? No way...

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        • #5
          I can't deny his talent, but I don't HAVE to give him anything. I don't see him as any better than A-Rod or Edmonds. It's a TEAM game!!! Now let me get back to my recliner in the locker room, you sit over there. LOL!!!


          Just needlin' ya Tx!!

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          • #6
            Cool Hunt

            Hey Hunt,

            DJ and I go back and forth like this all the time. Its all in fun. :o

            Plus, it is the offseason. Trying to calm myself, that second coat of paint just finished drying.

            :lid:

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            • #7
              Bonds is a choke artist when it counts the most.The Pirates had a couple of teams that should have gone to the World Series,but Bonds and Bonilla couldnt hit the broad side of a barn against the Braves.That being said,Who thinks Bonds has a chance of breaking Aarons record?
              ST.LOUIS RAMS:THE MOST FRUSTRATING TEAM IN THE NFL!!!

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              • #8
                Just a little note about Bonds being a choke artist. Yes, he has had his problems in the post season. But, if he didn't come through at other times when the pressure is on; his teams wouldn't even have been there. Another thing, through out the history of baseball; even some of the greatest players had their problems in the post season. His attitude; your right, it does stink. But it does appear to be getting better. And from a playing perspective, he is fun to watch. McGwire is one of my favorite all time players and I didn't want to see Barry break his record. But at the same time at least one of the best players of all time broke that record. But from out here, where I get to see a lot of Giant games; Barry has lightened up and is enjoying the game more than he used to. Plus, it seems that his attitude is changing around the fans and even the media. Well, at least the media out here.;) As for breaking Hank's record, I was always hoping it would be big Mac. But at the pace Bonds is going he will do it. But it probably won't last, as it will be broke by Sosa and then by A-Rod.

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                • #9
                  Re: Cool Hunt

                  Originally posted by txramsfan
                  DJ and I go back and forth like this all the time. Its all in fun. :o

                  Plus, it is the offseason. Trying to calm myself, that second coat of paint just finished drying.
                  all in fun

                  <yawn> draft time? you mean i finally have a reason (other than school) to get my lazy ass outta bed....

                  Bonds breaking Aaron's record? Could happen, but i don't want it to. Some buddies of mine and i were all talking about this the other day. If you look at Bonds and even McGuire, these guys weren't always power hitters by nature. You go back to the Bash Brothers and McGuire was a stick. Same thing with Bonds in Steeltown. After these guys decided to bulk it up did they suddenly start breaking records. Go back in time and see how much creatine and adrenasoliminacide Ruth and Aaron took.

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                  • #10
                    I do believe Ruth had hot dogs to power his way thru the record books. DJ's right, those guys didn't have the training/conditioning that players have today. Or supplements.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sprtsmac
                      I do believe Ruth had hot dogs to power his way thru the record books. DJ's right, those guys didn't have the training/conditioning that players have today. Or supplements.
                      Franks, beer and a good Cuban cigar! LOL!!

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                      • #12
                        don't forget all the women ;)

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, they don't make ball players like that anymore. Long live the BABE!:king:

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                          • #14
                            bonds

                            I don't have a strong opinion on bonds' attitude, but I do have one on how to pitch to the mlb darling. Brush that guy back with a little chin music. If you watch him bat he hugs the plate more than any current hitter. I dont understand why these mlb pitchers are afraid to brush the guy back. Maybe they are afraid that the steroid rumors are true, and he might kick their asses.

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                            • #15
                              good call ferter, i had noticed that too. They like to just walk him or pitch to him....morons. get him off the plate a little and you can work a little better.

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                              • AvengerRam_old
                                Barry Bonds: Master Manipulator
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                Who caught Bonds' interview today where he talked about how "tired" he was and how he is going to take time off. He said things like "you [the media] wanted to bring me down and now you have."

                                At first glance, this might warrant a bit of sympathy. But.. consider the circumstances.

                                Is it a coincidence that this is happening just as the steroid issue has become the big issue in baseball? Maybe the better question is... is it cynical to presume that Bonds is just trying to paint himself as a victim to avoid additional criticism?

                                I was almost sucked to this, until I noticed something during the interview. There was a teen-age boy sitting next to Bonds during the interview, who I presume is Bonds' son. And what was he wearing? A Barry Sanders jersey.

                                What is Barry Sanders famous for? Retiring suddenly and giving up a shot at a major sports record...

                                Coincidence? I think not.

                                Bonds is a master manipulator.

                                But I'm not buying it.

                                Go away... come back...

                                At this point, I don't care, Barry. I'm done paying attention to your nonsense.
                                -03-22-2005, 10:06 PM
                              • RamsFan16
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                                by RamsFan16
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                                Almost exactly 10 years later, when the Braves begin their three-game series against the Cubs at Wrigley Field on Friday, one of the most important weapons in their lineup will be Renteria, a man who is still profiting from the lessons Pendleton continues to provide.

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                                During the first two years of his career, Renteria was surrounded in the Marlins clubhouse with the likes of Pendleton, Devon White and Bobby Bonilla, talented players who respected and understood the game. When he moved to St. Louis in 1999, he savored the influence Willie McGee provided.

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                                "I wanted to learn how to play the game right like they did," Renteria said.

                                As he blossomed into a superstar, he became a standup individual like those aforementioned former teammates. When it came time for Braves general manager John Schuerholz to find a replacement for Rafael Furcal this past December, he certainly loved the fact that Renteria had been a four-time All-Star, with three Silver Slugger Awards and two Gold Gloves.

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                                Given that Renteria had hit just .276 with 70 RBIs -- disappointing numbers only for someone of his caliber -- last season with the Red Sox, he also came with a warning label. But it was one the Braves chose to ignore, while focusing more on their belief that he would thrive in the less stressful, competitive environment that they could provide.

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                                -05-25-2006, 03:14 PM
                              • AvengerRam_old
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                                Any of us who engage in the yearly ritual of playing amateur scout has had his or her share of "I told you so" (outside the box picks that really panned out) and D'oh!!! (predictions that were just plain wrong) moments.

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                                Mine:

                                "I told you so!": Osi Umenyiora, DE, Troy (2003)
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                                "D'oh!!!": Clay Matthews, OLB, USC (2009)
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                              • AvengerRam_old
                                McNair's Death Shows Barkley Was Half-Right
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                Maybe its the absurd coverage of Michael Jackson that has me in the mood to rant about the overglorification of celebrities after their death, but I feel this needs to be said...

                                Charles Barkley once noted that athletes are not role models.

                                Steve McNair is a good example of why. He was an admirable figure on the field and in his public work for charities. But, behind that facade, there was a man who made the decision to have an affair (cheating on not only his wife, but his four kids as well) with a 20 year old girl. His death may not have been the foreseeable consequence of that decision, but it seems it was the direct consequence.

                                And so, another "icon" disappoints us. As sports fans, we've become desensitized to this type of thing. We've seen too many heroes humbled in public to have much of a reaction.

                                All I will say about it is this... Barkley was half-right. Athletes are not role models, but they should aspire to be. Anyone with the privilege of wealth, fame and influence - obtained through activities that most do for leisure - should at least make the effort to lead by example.

                                All too often, Barkley's mantra is used as an excuse, rather than a mere observation.

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                                -07-08-2009, 11:58 AM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                Why people are ho-hum about Bonds' 700
                                by AvengerRam_old
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                                Rumors of steroids use
                                60.00%
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                                40.00%
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                                Over inflation of HR stats in recent years
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                                Just wait until he passes Ruth and Aaron
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                                -09-19-2004, 01:21 PM
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