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    Re: Devastated By U.S. World Cup Team's First-Round Loss, Nation Grinds To Halt

    Our best athletes have Rams, Dodgers, or Lakers sewn across the front of the jersey
    The choice of teams here shows that america has great choice in apparell.

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  • Fat Pang
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    Re: Devastated By U.S. World Cup Team's First-Round Loss, Nation Grinds To Halt

    Originally posted by txramsfan
    Until American youth after the age of 12 play soccer on the same competitive level as football, basketball and baseball, soccer is America will always be an afterthough. Our best athletes have Rams, Dodgers, or Lakers sewn across the front of the jersey...not D.C. United, Revolution, or Crew.
    Absolutely agree.........................................


    Although I would also say that there are some (not on these forums ..NY Times is one) who have a rather unrealistic expectation of how the US should do at international level, based on the ridiculous FIFA ranking system (US were No.5???????), and are up in arms about the officiating.

    As long as the US tempers it's expectations and continues to try and grow the game organically rather than through parachuting European and south american has-beens into the league, then I think there's hope there. But it has to be a long term view.

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  • txramsfan
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    Until American youth after the age of 12 play soccer on the same competitive level as football, basketball and baseball, soccer is America will always be an afterthough. Our best athletes have Rams, Dodgers, or Lakers sewn across the front of the jersey...not D.C. United, Revolution, or Crew.

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  • Fat Pang
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    I agree entirely, but it's primarily down to the insularity of the US, it's taste for sports and the strength of it's home market economically.

    The thing is that the US wasn't ever going to get instant reward for it's efforts, it's going to take time and in a country that is used to being, and demands to be, the best that isn't good enough.

    Why are Basketball, and baseball (For all love.......????) Olympic sports? Because it was presumed that there would be instant rewards by the IOC that would result in bigger commercial revenues and higher interest in the US.

    Why was Mia Hamm a household name but Kasey Keller isn't?

    Mia Hamm won, Kasey Keller hasn't.

    Football takes time and even then it's not the always the most deserving that wins.

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  • Goldenfleece
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    Sure, soccer competes with other sports in other countries, but it's still up there among the top. I would imagine tennis and golf get higher ratings in the U.S. Where I grew up, lots of kids played soccer until they got to be say 10-12 years old. Then most abandoned it for the sports they saw on tv. And is it any surprise? Think about it. The best baseball players from around the world come to play in the U.S., the best basketball players from around the world come to play in the U.S., the best "American football" players in the world play in the U.S...the best soccer players from around the world (including the U.S.) play in Europe or South America. MLS is suffering from some of the same problems as NFL Europe--we all know the best talent isn't playing there, and other sports are already entrenched.

    Let's say an American kid who could be the next Pele watched the playoffs of all the major sports this year: do you think he's going to go to his daddy and say, "I want to be like Clint Dempsey" after seeing a World Cup in which the whole team managed just 4 shots in 3 games, or do you think he's more likely to see the NBA Finals and say, "I want to be like Dwayne Wade"? Not only did we lose badly in two of our World Cup games, but we did so with very unattractive and uninspired play.

    American athletes also know they can make more at other sports. Currently, two MLS players have salaries over $1,000,000/year. Meanwhile, Roger Clemens makes over $20,000,000/year. A lot of MLS players make close to the minimum of $37,000. By comparison, the rookie minimum in the NFL is $225,000. The minimum in MLB is $270,000. The NBA? $398,762. It's just not even comparable; you'd have to go to Europe to make those kinds of salaries as a soccer player.

    In order for soccer to really catch on in the U.S., we need some American sports heroes to emerge and capture people's imaginations, and the domestic league has to become competitive enough to be talked about among the best in the world. The problem is that the sport has to reach a certain level of popularity to attract the best athletes...to become popular...to attract the best...It's a vicious cycle.

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  • Fat Pang
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    Originally posted by rams_fan81
    The title of the thread says 'Nation comes to halt' I could care less how we do in the worldcup of soccer, I bet had football players grown up in different countries they would be great soccer players. Long story short our athletes aren't playing soccer, whereas in other countries soccer is the premiere sport to play.
    Nope, it has to compete like any other sport for the attention of the public. The fact that it's the most popular global game by far is down to the fact that it's easy and cheap to play and it stirs something within the soul that translates to extremes of emotion.

    Nations do and have come to a halt.

    There are area's of the education system and the country for that matter where Cricket,Rugby and Rugby league are far more popular than football. My wife's home town Wigan for example, is a town where even now, when their football team is in the premiership, the struggles of the rugby league team are paramount.

    Added to which, is the fact that major commercial organisations have sought, for the last 20 years or so to exploit this and you have had the further explosion of popularity in it's main domestic markets such as England, Spain, France, Germany and Italy.

    There are fantastic amount of money involved in the game and it's leading lights are global phenomenon.

    The USA's current world ranking of #4 (I think) was an absolute mystery to me and many others who follow football and this current world cup and it's been proved to be a myth by their performances here. It meant that FIFA thought they were better then England, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, etc etc which they quite obviously weren't

    Fact remains is that the USA should be a major player in football,especially with it's large hispanic population. The fact that it isn't says a lot.

    It also puzzles the hell out of the rest of the world.

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    Soccer players in america strive to be one thing when they grow up. A kicker in the NFL.:tongue:

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  • rams_fan81
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    The title of the thread says 'Nation comes to halt' I could care less how we do in the worldcup of soccer, I bet had football players grown up in different countries they would be great soccer players. Long story short our athletes aren't playing soccer, whereas in other countries soccer is the premiere sport to play.

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  • RamsFanSam
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    Originally posted by HUbison
    I got no problem with soccer, but it's like an old football coach told me one time......"There's just something wrong with a sport where the ball rolls around on the ground and nobody picks it up and runs with it".

    Here's what I don't get about soccer, though. That does seem a little silly. The player falls to the ground and goes into death throes whenever an opposing player brushes through their personal space. You would think the guy is living out Gibson's final scenes from Braveheart.......then, as if touched by Allmighty's Healing Hand, jumps up and runs around some more after the ref's decision.
    After reading this, now I understand why soccer is the 'sport' of the 'sensitive' fellas. (a.k.a. "girlie men")
    Originally posted by HUbison
    Yea, that's right, and on the cooking & cleaning fields, too...right fellas? fellas? hello?
    Of course! After all, "loading the dishwasher" means giving the wife a shot of whiskey, right?

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  • Goldenfleece
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    Originally posted by RamDez
    I am reading this and all I can say is ........ what????

    Is this the way Americans deal with a sport they are just bad at? Make a joke of it.
    Just so you know, the Onion lampoons all of its news stories. Most of the time we don't joke about sports we are bad at...we just ignore them.

    Originally posted by HUbison
    The player falls to the ground and goes into death throes whenever an opposing player brushes through their personal space. You would think the guy is living out Gibson's final scenes from Braveheart.......then, as if touched by Allmighty's Healing Hand, jumps up and runs around some more after the ref's decision.

    I just can't stomach much of that. Other than that, the sport looks like fun.
    A lot of these guys don't even bother to deny they dive. They say it's just part of the game. I think the referees should get to issue penalties for "being a sissy." I propose that if a player flops around on the ground too much, the opposition should get an opportunity to take a driven free kick at him to toughen him up.

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  • HUbison
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    Originally posted by LaRamsFanLongTime
    We let are women do the talking on the soccer field.
    Yea, that's right, and on the cooking & cleaning fields, too...right fellas? fellas? hello?

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  • rams_fan81
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    What are you talking about football is the most played sport in the world. I always hear Europeans talking about it.

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    I am reading this and all I can say is ........ what????

    Is this the way Americans deal with a sport they are just bad at? Make a joke of it.


    But at least we take it on the chin.
    We let are women do the talking on the soccer field.

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  • HUbison
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    I got no problem with soccer, but it's like an old football coach told me one time......"There's just something wrong with a sport where the ball rolls around on the ground and nobody picks it up and runs with it".

    Here's what I don't get about soccer, though.
    Lack of yellow card miraculously heals soccer player’s broken leg
    That does seem a little silly. The player falls to the ground and goes into death throes whenever an opposing player brushes through their personal space. You would think the guy is living out Gibson's final scenes from Braveheart.......then, as if touched by Allmighty's Healing Hand, jumps up and runs around some more after the ref's decision.

    I just can't stomach much of that. Other than that, the sport looks like fun.

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  • RamsFanSam
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    The USA has a soccer team?



    Why?

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