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  • ramsanddodgers
    Re: Lebron

    Originally posted by laram0 View Post
    This may not have anything to do with Athleticism but.....

    The SKY HOOK by Kareem Abdul Jabbar has never been duplicated.
    ...and if dunking was not against the rules when Alcindor was in college I wonder if he would have been as dominant in the NBA?;)

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  • jmk321
    Re: Lebron

    He's no Kobe Bryant. He can't control the pace of the game like Kobe. He can't post people up and run the offense like Kobe. He doesn't have the knowledge of the game that Kobe has and he doesn't have the leadership that Kobe has. He also is not nearly as fundamentally sound as Kobe and his shooting is nowhere near Kobe's level.

    He might be stronger and more athletic than Kobe but he is not a better basketball player.

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  • laram0
    Re: Lebron

    This may not have anything to do with Athleticism but.....

    The SKY HOOK by Kareem Abdul Jabbar has never been duplicated.

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  • AvengerRam_old
    Re: Lebron

    Lebron is no Jordan. Who knows if he ever will be.

    I agree, though, that he is a force of nature. It is rare that a player is so physically superior to others playing his position in basketball. LeBron has the body of a power forward, and the skills of a PG, SG and SF.

    There have been others, though, who were similarly "off the chart." Magic Johnson was a PG in the body of a power forward (and had the skills to play any position on the court). Shaq's combination of size and athleticism was unmatched, particularly in his first 10 years in the league.

    With Jordan, it was not as much about size (there have been other 6'6 SGs). He just had an unmatched combination of skill, athleticism, competitive nature and fearlessness. Its no accident that he won 6 titles and was the MVP in every finals series he played in.

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  • general counsel
    started a topic Lebron


    Its rare that you see an athlete who is truly a force of nature. Lebron is so spectacular its amazing. Offensively, he is as effect as Michael Jordan. He is nowhere near the defensive player that jordan was, but on the offensive side of the ball, the way he elevates the play of his teamates puts him a level up from kobe in my book. Of course, he can only pass it to open guys, he cant shoot for them.

    ramming speed to all

    general counsel

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  • Nick
    2017 NFL Draft Round 4 #125: Rams select Samson Ebukam, LB, Eastern Washington
    by Nick


    Nnamaka Samson Ebukam was born in Nigeria, but learned football early on in Portland, Oregon and excelled as a high school defensive end and tight end. Ebukam contributed as a true freshman, playing 15 games as a reserve (28 tackles, four for loss, three sacks). He was a second-team All-Big Sky selection as a hybrid linebacker/defensive end in 2014 (12 TFL, 7.5 sacks) and 2015 (7.5 TFL, four sacks). Samson was a team co-captain in his senior year, garnering third-team FCS All-American honors from the Associated Press with 15 tackles for loss and a team-leading 9.5 sacks.

    STRENGTHS Explosive athlete with a background in basketball, javelin and shot-put in high school. Triggers out of his stance with quick-twitch as a rusher. Attacks the edge with plus burst and has the desire to keep working when he gets punched and controlled early. Wowed teams with a vertical leap of 39 inches and a sub 4.5 forty yard dash at his pro day. Plays with a suddenness when crashing down the line after ball carriers. Drawn to the play like a magnet. Lauded for intelligence and work ethic. Initial quickness creates disruption in run game. Chalked up 15 tackles for loss and two forced fumbles in 2016. Rangy with a willingness to pursue way down the field.

    WEAKNESSES Tends to play too frenetically at times. Will need to eliminate some of the wasted motion with his flailing arms and legs. Gets overly focused on blocker in front of him and will lose sight of ball carrier. Wins with raw athleticism over technique. Better hand usage must become a priority. Gets glued to blocks for too long and can be slow to disengage. One-speed pass rusher who doesn't generate as much speed to power as hoped. Lacks the size to play through redirect blocks. Needs to develop a more nuanced rush plan with workable counter moves for next level.


    NFL COMPARISON Bryan Braman

    BOTTOM LINE Ebukam is a driven prospect with above average intelligence who is still in the process of matching his skill to his athletic ability. He lacks desired size and power to play with his hand in the ground and will have to move to an outside linebacker spot. Ebukam has a chance to get drafted on the third day and his speed, explosiveness, and motor could make him a special teams standout while a team works to develop him as a pass rusher.
    -04-29-2017, 10:05 AM
  • RamWraith
    Rating the wide receivers
    by RamWraith
    By John Murphy, Yahoo! Sports
    February 20, 2007

    The wide receiver position comes back with a vengeance, as the top of this year's crop is made up of mostly underclassmen. As many as six receivers have potential first-round grades, including the possible No. 1 overall pick Georgia Tech's Calvin Johnson.

    For the most part, the top five possess good size with all but Ohio State's Ted Ginn Jr. measuring at least 6-foot-2, but it could be interesting to see how teams favor this group. There is a solid foundation of prospects that could go anywhere between late in the first round all the way down to the third or fourth rounds.

    Last season, the NFL Rookie of the Week honors went to a wide receiver on seven different occasions with seventh-round pick Marques Colston and undrafted free agent Hank Baskett accounting for four of those awards. Therefore, expect an early run on receivers.

    However, a straying away from the position will allow several high-profile names to still be on the board come the second day of the draft.

    Yamon Figurs, Kansas State
    Onrea Jones, Hampton
    Julius McClellan, North Carolina Central


    1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech. Potentially the best pound-for-pound athlete in the draft as he stands 6-foot-4 and 235 pounds and has been timed in the 4.3-second range in the 40. He also has a vertical leap between 42 and 45 inches and a broad jump of 11 feet.

    Johnson matches that athleticism with playmaker ability on the field and a quiet unassuming presence off of it. In fact, for a player of his talent level, there has not been a prospect with less of an ego or more of a workmanlike attitude to enter the draft in years. He acts and wants to be treated like he's just one of the guys, but he brings such a wealth of ability to the field that it would not be surprising to see him taken No. 1 overall.

    He is very flexible and has a fluid stride that allows him to separate from defenders, although he needs to do a better job of locating the ball when it is in the air, especially when going to out-jump opposing defenders. He has great moves in the open field as he can take a short screen or slant route and deliver big yardage after the catch.

    Without putting too much blame on his former quarterback (Reggie Ball), the accuracy and pocket presence of Georgia Tech's quarterback play was inconsistent throughout Johnson's college career. One aspect he could improve upon is breaking off his routes and coming back to the ball. Still, he shows adept footwork to keep or get himself inbounds along the sideline or in the end zone. He's a good all-around talent as he looks for players downfield to block and was able to cut-block defenders with the best of them in college.

    One of the hardest workers at his pre-combine...
    -02-21-2007, 10:38 AM
  • AvengerRam_old
    Kobe comparable to Jordan? Please.
    by AvengerRam_old
    Sportswriters are very bad historians. The latest example it the trend to start discussions of the upcoming NBA Finals by posing the question: "if Kobe wins another title or two, does that put him in the same sentence as Michael Jordan?"

    Are you kidding me?

    Let's look at a few facts, shall we?

    Jordan played in six Championship Series, winning all six. He was the MVP of... you guessed it... all six.

    Kobe has played in four Championship series, winning three. He was the MVP of... you guessed it... none of them. In fact, Kobe hasn't played all that well in the finals, with a shooting % hovering around .400. In the three series he won, he was essentially carried by Shaq (who, of course, was the MVP of all three).

    Looking at the playoffs as a whole, Michael played in 179 playoff games (would have been more had he not taken his baseball hiatus in his prime), and averaged 33.4 points (shooting % of .487), 6.4 rebounds and 5.7 assists.

    Kobe has played in 146 playoff game, averaging 24.2 points (shooting % of .447), 5.1 rebounds and 4.6 assists.

    Jordan was the best of all time. Kobe does not need to be comparable to Jordan to be an all time great. The problem is, sportswriters always want to act like they are watching something that has never been seen before.

    They aren't.
    -06-04-2008, 01:55 PM
  • ramavenger
    Jammal Brown
    by ramavenger
    JammalBown -Strengths: Is an experienced OT prospect with the potential to play LOT in the NFL. His strength is in pass protection. He has just adequate height and bulk, but he has longer arms and is very powerful. He has great quickness in his pass pro set. Stays balanced and shows very good body control when he works at it. Has excellent lateral movement skills. Is rarely beat by pure speed and shows the ability to mirror and slide versus the double move when he plays with leverage. He does a very good job in terms of hand placement and he has a jarring punch. His run blocking skills must improve, but he does have good initial quickness and is able to consistently get in position on reach blocks. He has very good initial power and has the potential to develop into an efficient run blocker in the NFL if he becomes more physical and aggressive.

    Weaknesses: Has the athleticism to play LOT but lacks experience at that position. He keeps getting bigger and stronger, but he does not have ideal bulk and he has just adequate height for an elite OT prospect. He is powerful, but does not have the massive frame to simply engulf smaller defensive ends in the NFL. Isnt nearly as physical or aggressive as he needs to be. Seems like hes going through the motions some times. Is athletic but will get lazy sometimes in pass protection and will get caught overextending versus the double move. Doesnt finish as well as he should as a run blocker. He also has some durability concerns.

    Overview: Brown was a partial qualifier who was cleared by the NCAA as a true freshman but wound up redshirting in 2000 because of a knee injury anyway. He played as a reserve right tackle as a redshirt freshman in 01 before taking over as a fulltime starter at right tackle as a sophomore in 02. Brown has been a fulltime starter and first team All-Big 12 the past three seasons (02-04). Brown doesnt have elite size but he keeps getting bigger and stronger. He has excellent feet and good overall athletic ability, which is why he shows the potential to start at the LOT position in the NFL. Brown has had his best season as a senior in 04 and hes become a more technically sound and complete player. But despite his natural ability and success on the collegiate level, Brown could drop to the bottom of the first or the top of the second round due to concerns about his overall toughness and aggressiveness. Similar to Kenyatta Walker (Buccaneers 1st round pick in 2001), theres a chance that Brown never reaches his potential in the NFL because he isnt the hardest worker or the most physical player  thats why hes a big risk-and-reward prospect.
    * Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.
    -03-14-2005, 05:18 PM
  • Bralidore(RAMMODE)
    Are the Rams really that "Devoid of Talent"?
    by Bralidore(RAMMODE)
    Before and after this year's NFL draft, I, and Im sure just about all of you, have been getting the "devoid of talent" in regards to the Ram's roster force fed down our throats. Even after the draft it seems that it has remained a mainstay in in Ram 2010 prospects.

    So my question is, are we really devoid of talent, or experience?

    QB: Before the addition of Sam Bradford we definitively were short on perceived talent. A.J Feeley, Keith Null, and (at the time) Mike Reilly, left much to be desired. With the addition of Bradford, who has been called one of the best QB prospects of the 2000s (behind only Carson Palmer and Eli Manning according to Casserly), the talent question mark has been erased and instead replaced with the experience one.

    RB: Everyone knows Sjax is one of the best backs in the league. Behind him is only a bunch of question marks like Ogbonnaya, Toston, and Darby. None have done anything to say if they have talent or not, and one (Darby) doesn't look to have anything special based on what we've seen of him.

    WR: Here's one of the biggest question marks on the team. What do we really have here? Laurent Robinson has flashed "go-to-guy" ability in a Ram's uniform but has been consistently bitten by the injury bug in one form of another. If he can remain healthy he has the talent to be a number one guy it would seem. He has talent, just not experience

    Donnie Avery is a bit of an enigma. He definitely has talent. With his special speed, he can stretch the field and make big plays. However he seems more fit to be utilized in this role rather than the reliable possession guy. His hands are suspect and so far he has not been reliable enough to be counted on to make the catch. He has talent, just not experience

    Brandon Gibson could be a compliment to Avery. He has great looking hands, something Avery has not shown. He also shows an ability to make YAC with his quick hips and moves. He does not possess considerable speed however. If he can stay healthy, he could be a very effective role player or starter. He has talent, just not experience

    Mardy Gilyard was a steal in the fourth by all indications. He is the classic case of a guy not being flashy on paper (unless you look at his production ) but just flat out MAKES PLAYS. He is just at 6 feet, if that, and his 40 time isn't eye opening with a 4.5 average, but his agility and quicker than normal change of direction ability makes him a slippery guy after the catch. This also gives him an advantage in route running and returning as it allows him to stop on a dime and make a cut without losing too much momentum. His hands are also fairly reliable, rarely will you see him drop a pass watching the tape. Above all however, the guys is simply a playmaker. He gets behind the defender despite his perceived lack of speed and he is a pain in the open field with his quick hips...
    -06-07-2010, 11:39 AM