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    1. Jake Locker, QB, Washington-Cannon Arm, but he isn't gun slinger he makes great decisions. Most athletic QB and if we are still running the WCO his athletic ability will be great with all the roll out passes. He and Clausen both play in pro style systems and their stats are surprisingly close even though Clausen has superior talent and a much weaker schedule. Huge upside and you can tell by his day and night improvement in his mechanics. Bradford season ending sugery...

    2. Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois- Gotta give the young guy some weapons. Big physical fast explosive with good hands, but other WRs have overtaken him because of Juice Williams horrible play. Ton of young recievers gotta hit on at least 2. Gibson, Avery, Robinson, Burton, Foster, Amendola and now Benn. He may still go in the first, but if he does there will be other options like LaFell (LSU), Williams(USC), Williams(Syracuse) and to lesser extents Demaryius Thomas (Georgia tech.)and Golden Tate(Notre Dame).

    3. Linval Joseph, DT, Eastern Carolina- 6'6 320 the kid is huge, but he is a great interior pass rusher. Will instantly get reps in the rotation and might eventually start next to Ryan if Carriker can't get healthy.

    4. John Jerry, OT, Ole Miss- 6'5 350, huge and strong as an ox, even with his long arms he put up Ole Miss record setting bench press numbers. Excellent run blocker, but raw in the passing game. We will bring him along slow guys like Trautwein, Young, and Goldberg will get the first shot.

    5. Ben Tate, RB, Auburn- Versatile guy and is the perfect compliment to S-Jax. Doesn't have explosive speed, but he is a good runner and pass catcher.

    5. Vladimir Ducase, OG, Massachusetts- Big Strong guard 6'5 330. Fits the mold the new line we are trying to build. Could be starting sooner than later.

    6. Jefferey Fitzgerald, DL, Kansas State- Spags loves his D-line man and he wouldn't have his stamp on the draft without coming out with at least 2. Fitzgerald is versatile can play End and tackle. Played excellent opposite Chris Long while at Virginia before he left the team and Transferred to Kansas state. He could eventually take James Hall's role

    7. Van Eskridge, S, Eastern Carolina- Versatile safety can do a little of everything. Could be the 4th safety and a special teamer

    7. Austin Lane, DE, Murray State- Great pass rusher from small school, a project practice squad bound, but could pay dividends eventually.


    Free Agents

    Aaron Kampman, DE, Packers- Its clear Spags wants to spend less on LBs and more on the D-line. Long Moves over to LE and his sack totals and the performance by the rest of the line will go up because Kampman will draw attention and also get his sacks. It wont hurt the Rams to add some experience.

    O.J. Otogwe, FS, Rams
    - Self explanatory

    Tony Scheffler, TE, Broncos
    - Finally pass catching TE. Will be especially good in redzone. Goes back where he needs to WCO

    Chase Blackburn, LB, Giants- Does Spags love DEs or what just another DE he has converted to LB. Immedeatly steps in on the Week side for spoon. More of the bigger LB Spags is looking for and he knows the system

    Chris Gocong, SLB, Eagles- Big can play some DE. Knows the system.

    Stanford Rout, CB, Raiders- Bigger physical Corner Spags looks for. He plays for the raiders so you know he is fast. Can Challenge for a starting spot or in the Nickel since he has starting experience.

    Restricted Free Agents
    Jonathan Wade, CB, Rams (Tender)
    Clifton Ryan, DT, Rams (Tender)
    Larry Grant, LB, Rams (Tender)
    Craig Dahl, S, Rams (tender)
    Last edited by 39thebeast; -10-21-2009, 05:27 PM. Reason: spoon trade

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    Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

    Not to rain on your parade or anything....but do we have any evidence that Clausen can truly get it done when the chips are down? How do we know he won't be another Brady Quinn?

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    • #3
      Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

      notre dame has won the last 3 games at the very end, mostly thanks to good plays by clausen. they haven't exactly been playing top 10 talent but the guy's got talent. i like this mock overall, taking carlos dunlap has to be at least a little appealing and i might like jake locker more than clausen for us, but i agree with most of what's done here. we should have significant cap space, so if the whole cba thing goes through (and i have to believe it will) we should definitely look at a veteran #1 wide receiver (boldin, marshall) and a rg or rt through free agency.

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      • #4
        Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

        You have some good thoughts there, but I wouldn't release Bulger unless it is for the purpose of clearing cap space for a significant FA. You need 2 QBs (at least) on the roster, and I have little/no faith in Boller.

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          Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

          Originally posted by molar_pistol View Post
          notre dame has won the last 3 games at the very end, mostly thanks to good plays by clausen. they haven't exactly been playing top 10 talent but the guy's got talent. i like this mock overall, taking carlos dunlap has to be at least a little appealing and i might like jake locker more than clausen for us, but i agree with most of what's done here. we should have significant cap space, so if the whole cba thing goes through (and i have to believe it will) we should definitely look at a veteran #1 wide receiver (boldin, marshall) and a rg or rt through free agency.
          Needing last minute drives to dispatch Michigan State, Purdue, and Washington doesn't exactly fill me with confidence about his playing prowess. If he was actually good, Notre Dame wouldn't need late drives to win those games.

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          • #6
            Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

            Originally posted by PeoriaRam View Post
            Needing last minute drives to dispatch Michigan State, Purdue, and Washington doesn't exactly fill me with confidence about his playing prowess. If he was actually good, Notre Dame wouldn't need late drives to win those games.
            as usual you're trying to put everything on the quarterback..this is a team game.

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            • #7
              Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

              I would love to go after a top Wideout in FA, but realistically we wont have alot to pick from. Vincent Jackson most likely stays in San Diego. Chris Henry, T.O. and Marshall have huge character issues, and Braylon Edwards has hands like feet so IMO Breaston was the best available.

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                Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

                Originally posted by PeoriaRam View Post
                Needing last minute drives to dispatch Michigan State, Purdue, and Washington doesn't exactly fill me with confidence about his playing prowess. If he was actually good, Notre Dame wouldn't need late drives to win those games.
                Washington is a good team they beat USC. Clausen didn't play most of the purdue game due to injury, but he came back hurt and lead them on a game winning drive and threw the game winning touchdown with turf toe. If that isn't toughness leadership and grit when it is do or die I don't know what is. Right now ND is banged up they have only 2 weapons left and there defense isn't good and his o-line is only decent. Watch his games this year if you get the chance and you will see what I'm talking about. As for the Brady Quin comparison Claussen has a stronger arm is more accurate and his supporting cast isn't nearly as good, but his numbers are better than Quinn's. IMO Clausen is the guy to beat untill we see what Bradford comming off injury can do.

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                  Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

                  Originally posted by molar_pistol View Post
                  as usual you're trying to put everything on the quarterback..this is a team game.
                  I am under the impression that Baron Harkonnen (AKA Charlie Weis) routinely stocks the team with very talented 4 and 5 star recruits. I wouldn't rush to point at the rest of the team's talent as the explanation.

                  Washington's win over USC would be more impressive if USC hadn't been in the habit the last few seasons of randomly dropping one road game they have no business dropping early in the season. The annual part of being this year's annual freak USC upset beneficiary takes away the luster of the win.
                  Last edited by PeoriaRam; -10-07-2009, 03:39 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

                    "Steve Breaston, WR, Cardinals- True #1 guy. Defenses look at someone besides S-Jax "

                    I like ur thinking -- but he is not a number 1 -- not even a #2 ....

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                    • #11
                      Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

                      Originally posted by richtree View Post
                      "Steve Breaston, WR, Cardinals- True #1 guy. Defenses look at someone besides S-Jax "

                      I like ur thinking -- but he is not a number 1 -- not even a #2 ....
                      of course he is not behind Fitzgerald and boldin, but he still got 1,000 yards receiving as the number 3 guy and consistently came up with big plays. He played even bigger when he had to fill in when Boldin or Fitz went down. He can be a true number 1 target given the opportunity.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

                        i'm not a fan of that steve breaston move i mean we are going to give up alot of money. im guessing 4yrs 20+ mill

                        And slot receivers turing into starter does that sound familiar? Kevin Curtis remember him?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

                          Originally posted by BarronWade View Post
                          i'm not a fan of that steve breaston move i mean we are going to give up alot of money. im guessing 4yrs 20+ mill

                          And slot receivers turing into starter does that sound familiar? Kevin Curtis remember him?
                          This argument is irrelevant since he is an RFA, but he isn't solely a slot receiver. Boldin missed 4 starts last year where Breaston totaled 284 and 2 Tds in his position. That was only a portion of his total 1,007 yards. Also Kevin Kurtis is far more injury prone, but his first season out of the slot he started 16 games and racked up 1,000 yards. It is bad comparison since Kurtis is never healthy, but when he is healthy he is a good reciever. Lets compare the season where they both had 9 starts the year before they hit FA Kurits 801 and 6 tds and Breaston 1007 yards and 3 tds. After 1 more season in STL he went to Philly and got 1,000 yards as a full time guy. Breaston could still have down year this year and become a productive WR. Not to mention Kurtis transitioned from a high octane down the field passing game to to the same WCO we are currently running. Breaston would be doing the same thing. If anything switching Kurtis is a good example of switching from a slot to full time guy especially in the WCO

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                          • #14
                            Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

                            1. I'd be fine with Steve Breaston. Don't understand why people think he's just a slot receiver.

                            2. I wouldn't cut Jacob Bell. He's played relatively well this season so far. Incognito is the guy that HAS to be replaced.

                            3. While Jimmy Clausen is technically the best QB statistically, I'm not sure teams like him that much to put him so high. He's sort of a goofy kid and to me he isn't a difference maker like Bradford when healthy. I can't quantify it but I'm not as sold on him as many others and I'm an Irish fan. BUT, he's playing well enough to go in the first round to someone.

                            4. I think James Hall is gone after this season. He's not getting upfield and has been given every opportunity. With his age, I'm not seeing it.

                            5. I agree Bulger will be cut. Rams can cut Bulger and save about $1.5 million, cut Boller and invest the savings in a guy like Garcia to fill a hole for a few weeks. Next season the Rams will be desperate to sell tickets and the rookie will start early.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Mock offseason? Ya you heard right we are that bad

                              The deep ball may be the most overrated statistic for a QB. Most passes aren't more than 30-40 yards anyway and Colt threw a beauty like that this week to Jordan Shipley. Shipley may be the most underrated wR in the nation. Ranks 2nd in receptions, 7th in yards and no one is talking about him. Also has 2+ punt returns for touchdowns.

                              Colt is leading the nation passing accuracy. I'll take that.

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                              • 39thebeast
                                Beastly off season
                                by 39thebeast
                                Free Agents
                                O.J. Otogwe, FS, Rams- Top 5 FS in the league lock him up

                                Darryl Tapp, DE, Seahawks- Anyone else remember that 3 or 4 sack performance he had against us a couple years back? Tapp is a really good pass rusher mired in a deep rotation that has Patrick Kerney. For his size it is surprising how good he is against the run and athletic enough to get a good pass rush. Wont be overly expensive and will give you bang for your buck. He will start at RE so Long can play LE

                                Tony Schefler, TE, Broncos- Great receiving TE he can even split out and play some WR. 6-5 great redzone target. Look at his stats he wont get as big of pay day as some think

                                Brandon Johnson, WLB, Bengals- 6'5 243 former DE, perfect Spags LB.

                                Jerious Norwood, RB, Falcons- Devaney drafted this guy because he is explosive in all aspects of the game. Because he is an excellent receiver he and S-Jax can be on the field at the same time. His injuries and inability to run inside will hold him back from getting a huge pay day, but also make him perfect for a complementary role behind S-Jax. After getting trucked by S-Jax Norwood can run by you with his 10 to 15 touches a game

                                Karl Paymah, CB, Vikings- Good size, good tackler, and pretty good in coverage. Could play RCB until Flethcer is healthy then move to the nickel.

                                Zach Strief, OT, Saints- 6'7 330 4 career starts small sampling becuase Saints are deep on the line. I think our line has improve drastically and we need some continuity to take it to the next lvl. LT Smith, LG Bell, C Brown, RG Goldberg/Setterstrom, RT Grecco/Strief.

                                Restricted Free Agents
                                Clifton Ryan, DT, Rams (Tender)
                                Craig Dahl, S, Rams (Resign)
                                Mark Setterstrom, OG, Rams (Resign)


                                Draft


                                1. Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame-


                                Has been the best QB in college Football. Accurate with and above average arm, but what I like are the intangibles. Tough as nails, great leader, cool under pressure, and he is at his best in the 4th quarter.

                                2. Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame-


                                We need a number 1 guy why not Jimmy Clausen's favorite target right now. Alot of people would prefer a bigger guy but there is no one better when the ball is up in the air. He has the best hands in the draft and he goes up and grabs everything. Pretty good size 5-11 195 and does alot of damage after the catch. He has had only 1 game without a TD, 2 not over 100 yards receiving.

                                3. Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke-

                                Good size 6'5 305, extremely athletic, and strong. Recorded six sacks last year, but has been banged up this year. Coming back from injury has a had a sack in the last 2 games. Perfect fit at UT in this system. A little raw, but Spags system and the heavy rotation he employs will help him develop


                                4. Micah Johnson, LB,...
                                -10-31-2009, 08:17 PM
                              • BarronWade
                                BarronWade's mock off-season
                                by BarronWade
                                So right now we are 0-7 and this is the way i think our off season will go down

                                First: Pat Shurmur is released (finally). Giants RB coach Jerald Ingram fills that spot hopefully he can do something.

                                Second: Bulger reconstructs his contract to keep his job as Rams starter (for now).

                                RE-SIGN:
                                TE Dan Fells about 3-4 yrs.
                                Receiving TE can help if we cannot get a good receiver in the draft. Even if we do Fells is a good 2nd catching TE like Shincoe was in NY.

                                OG/C Richie Incognito about 1-2 yrs
                                At this point we do not need to create a whole at Guard. So we get cogs for the short term and find a suitable starter in the next yr or 2.

                                DE James Hall 1yr
                                I think Little will either retire or spend one more year elsewhere. So we need a veteran leader and Hall has played well for us.

                                DT Cliff Ryan 4-5 yrs
                                Give me 1 reason why we wont re-sign our best DT that is only 25 right now.

                                DB John Wade 1 yr
                                He is a restricted free agent so we will obviously tender him if someone else wants him they give us a 1st rounder. or 3rd depending on how much we tender him.

                                S Craig Dahl 2-3 yrs
                                pleasant surprise for us.

                                OJ Atogwe 2 yrs
                                I think if we cannot re-sign him we will just put the franchise on him then he will negotiate a deal for about 2 yrs and see the direction of the team.

                                Key Depatures:
                                DE Leonard Little (see james hall)
                                OG Jacob Bell (i dont see him reconstructing his deal which will get him cut)
                                TE Randy McMicheal (good riddance)
                                OT Alex Barron (penalties aside he is having a good year; i think we low ball him and some team gives him big bucks and a long term deal because of his size and talent. )
                                OLB Paris Lenon (why would we resign an average 32 yr old.
                                QB Kyle Boller (he could not protect the Boll)
                                DE Victor Adeyenju (we kept on keeping him inactive i dont think spags likes him)
                                RB Ken Darby (not as good a blocker as last year)

                                NOTE: For all of you that think we can sign Breaston or Moore: why would young receivers destined for a good future come to the Rams that have QB issues?

                                Key Arrivals:
                                DT Barry Coefield
                                This is a popular one because the G-men have depth on DL and Coefield will start with the Rams. He has conections with Spags.

                                LB Chris Gocong
                                He has connections with spags. He is a big LB. THe eagles just got spoon so they probably wont keep him. Your probably thinking why would he switch to OLB and come to the Rams. This will be the guy we give alot of money/ incentives to. He will be our "major" FA acquisition.

                                WR Dominik Hixon
                                unlike us the Giants have young receivers that are all flourishing and Hixon may be dropped in favor of Smith, Manningham and Nicks. We are in need of WRs and...
                                -10-29-2009, 04:20 PM
                              • DistantRam
                                Draft Day mock
                                by DistantRam
                                Well, Draft Day Is finally upon us and it's getting tense. Here's my wishlist:

                                1.01 Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame

                                Yes, I know that Sam Bradford is more likely but this is my mock, so there! Clausen has improved every year in college, has proven that he can play through injury and is used to having poor protection and limited talent around him. Bradford may have more upside but Clausen looks a safer bet to me; either way, we get our quarterback of the future.

                                2.01 Everson Griffen, DE, Southern California

                                Apart from Chris Long, we have nothing at defensive end as far as long-term starters are concerned. Little and Hall are in their thirties, while the other guys are rotation- calibre. Griffen has all the ability in the world; if Spags can whip him into shape, he could be a beast.

                                3.01 Dekoda Watson, OLB, Florida State

                                Na'il Diggs has been brought in but he is over thirty and isn't the long- term solution at weakside linebacker. Watson is small but has a great motor and gives one hundred percent every down; add him to Laurinaitis and Vobora and we have the makings of an excellent young linebacking corps.

                                4.01 Kyle Calloway, OT, Iowa

                                With the future of Alex Barron still up in the air, abd Jason Smith likely to switch to the blind side soon, we need a viable right tackle for the future. Calloway could well be the answer.

                                5.01 Dennis Pitta, TE, Brigham Young

                                Daniel Fells looks a decent enough tight end but we need more options at that position. Pitta is a good route runner and has excellent hands; he could be a steal.

                                5.04 Daniel Te'O-Nesheim, DE, Washington

                                More depth at defensive end. Could be much better than that, too.

                                6.01 Major Wright, SS, Florida

                                Depth at safety; could be a steal if we can motivate him.

                                7.01 Corey Peters, DT, Kentucky

                                More situational depth at defensive tackle.

                                7.19 Shawn Lauvao, G, Arizona State

                                More depth on the offensive line.

                                7.47 Simoni Lawrence, LB, Minnesota

                                A flexible player who can cover any hole in the linebacking position.
                                -04-22-2010, 01:01 AM
                              • RockinRam
                                Rockin's Mock Draft @ Week 7
                                by RockinRam
                                My week 1 mock draft consisted of:

                                Round 1: Arrelious Benn [WR] Illinois 6'2, 215lbs.

                                Round 2: Everson Griffen [DE] USC 6'3, 265lbs.

                                Round 3: Boo Robinson [DT] Wake Forest 6'2, 326lbs.

                                Round 4: John Jerry [G] Mississippi 6'5, 350lbs.

                                Round 5: Brandon Carter [G] Texas Tech 6'7, 360lbs.

                                Round 6: Luther Brown [OLB] USC 6'2, 234lbs.

                                Round 7: David Gettis [WR] Baylor 6'4, 210lbs.



                                My week 7 mock draft is now in the shape of this:


                                Round 1: Jimmy Clausen [QB] Notre Dame 6'3, 218lbs.

                                Analysis: Clausen is a beast of a QB. As the current #1 QB in the 2010 NFL Draft, Clausen deserves it. This kid has a wicked arm, with incredible arm strength and accuracy. He plays very well under center, unlike other college QB's. He has great pocket presence, patience and awareness. He can outmanuever and outrun D-linemen. The new face of our franchise. He will give this team the winning mentality it deserves.

                                Round 2: Golden Tate [WR] Notre Dame 5'11, 196lbs.

                                Analysis: Two Notre Dame players in a row? You bet. Golden Tate, with the injury of Michael Floyd, has stepped up and shown what he can do. Clausen and Tate make a dynamic duo in college, and why not carry that into the NFL too? We need more playmakers at WR, and this guy brings it. Speedy, and elusive, this guy has lots of moves.

                                Round 3: Greg Romeus [DE] Pittsburgh 6'5, 265lbs.

                                Analysis: Should figure into Spag's DE rotation. Very productive DE, and should give us some much needed help pressuring the QB.

                                Round 4: John Jerry [OG/RT] Ole Miss 6'5, 350lbs.

                                Analysis: When Jason Smith is moved to left tackle next year, that leaves a void at right tackle. John Jerry is a massive lineman that is able to play guard and right tackle. Jerry is a punishing run blocker and good pass blocker, and at 6'5, 350lbs, he puts fear into opposing d-linemen.

                                Round 5: Brandon Carter [OG] Texas Tech 6'7, 363lbs.

                                Analysis: The 2008 Texas Tech o-linemen are seriously underrated. The Tech's o-line is filled with solid, hard-working and agressive mammoths, which was one of the main reasons Graham Harrell had such an amazing year passing the ball. Brandon Carter, despite his crazy face-paint, is a good character guy who is smart despite his outlandish look. He is an amazing worker and strives to be a great lineman. This guy is huge, and is an imposing figure on the line. He will pave enormous holes for Jackson to run through, along with fellow rookie John Jerry next to him, and our fellow meat slab at center Jason Brown. If we get Carter along with Jerry, Jackson will be so excited he'll never want to leave St.Louis...

                                Round 6: Andrew Quarless [TE] Penn State 6'5, 252lbs.

                                Analysis: Has 1st-2nd round talent, but due to his attitude for the...
                                -10-19-2009, 01:11 PM
                              • 39thebeast
                                Dont Mock me
                                by 39thebeast
                                1. Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma



                                Franchise QB. Has all the intangibles you need to succeed. Excellent accuracy, great leader. Lets Talk Numbers.



                                TRADE!!!! Houston Trades picks (51, 83)

                                2. Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida


                                First Off Houston does the deal to trade up and get the best RB or DB that falls out of round 1. Hernandez has excellent hands and great speed. Can make an instant impact in the passing game as he continues to develop as a blocker.



                                3. Jermaine Cunningham, DE, Florida


                                Cunningham has good speed of the edge, and is good in all aspects as a pass rusher. He will be the future at RE opposite Long.



                                3. Ben Tate, RB, Auburn


                                Perfect compliment to S-jax. 4.3 Speed at 220 pounds. He is great pass blocker and receiver out of the backfield would be the perfect number 2 back on this team.



                                4. AJ Edds, LB, Iowa


                                Big tough LB Spags likes 6'4 246. He is a good enough athlete and excels in coverage. Could probably play all LB positions, but will play at our biggest weakness WLB.



                                5. Marcus Easly, WR, UCONN


                                Homer Pick lol. This kid has a ton of talent extremely fast good size. Give him some more experience and time to develop and he will be a gem.



                                5. Derek Hardman, OT, Eastern Kentucky


                                One of the better tackles in DII. Could be good depth possibly a future starter at RT.



                                6. Clifton Geathers, DL, South Carolina


                                6'8 300 DE. Could gives spags the versatility he likes on the D-line. He isn't a finished product, but spags will definately coach him up.



                                7. George Johnson, DE, Rutgers


                                Good size and athletic. Alot of experience could join the rotation on the d-line.



                                7. Adrian Tracy, LB, William & Marry


                                Former DE, but will probably move to LB. He could develop into a good special teamer/ Utility LB like Spags did with Chase Black burn.



                                7. Van Eksridge, FS, Eastern Carolina


                                Great instinctive safety. Could instantly contribute on special teams and be depth at FS....
                                -03-27-2010, 09:28 AM
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