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    The idea of the Rams taking a quarterback in round one next year seems to be getting less attractive, as today bot Colt McCoy of Texas and Sam Bradford of Oklahoma saw their fortunes take a hit, literally in the case of Bradford, thought by some to be the only one worthy of a top five selection. Just back a week ago from a shoulder injury, Bradford landed on the same one early in the game, his throwing side, and left for what appears to be another extended period.



    McCoy wasn't hurt, but he was contained by Oklahoma's defense all day. With Jevon Snead having at least one bad day this season against a top opponent, it's going to take a lot from someone to move up draft boards, and whether Bradford will even get the chance, rem,ains to be seen.
    Barry Waller

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    Re: Not a Good Day For QB

    I was Never impressed with McCoy or Bradford, they are overhyped and I really haven't seen them do anything against a "strong" opponent. I hope and pray the Rams don't pick one of those two, should they end up in that position. I think they should look into other schools and see who is out there or the latter rounds.

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      Re: Not a Good Day For QB

      Originally posted by Barry Waller View Post
      The idea of the Rams taking a quarterback in round one next year seems to be getting less attractive, as today bot Colt McCoy of Texas and Sam Bradford of Oklahoma saw their fortunes take a hit, literally in the case of Bradford, thought by some to be the only one worthy of a top five selection. Just back a week ago from a shoulder injury, Bradford landed on the same one early in the game, his throwing side, and left for what appears to be another extended period.



      McCoy wasn't hurt, but he was contained by Oklahoma's defense all day. With Jevon Snead having at least one bad day this season against a top opponent, it's going to take a lot from someone to move up draft boards, and whether Bradford will even get the chance, rem,ains to be seen.
      As correct as you are at this point in time, I'm not looking toward the draft just yet. I'm still focussed on this Sunday. At the risk of sounding like a walking cliche, where there's a will, there's a way.

      However, if I were looking toward a McCoy in the draft at this point in time, his first name would be Gerald.
      Last edited by Bar-bq; -10-17-2009, 11:07 PM.

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        Re: Not a Good Day For QB

        There certainly doesn't appear to be any Peyton Mannings in the upcoming draft at this point, but that may be a blessing in disguise.

        Who knows, maybe because of injury, he'll drop to the late 1st round or maybe even the 2nd round, which would make him a better value pick anyway.

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          Re: Not a Good Day For QB

          Actually, today could be a good day for a QB. His name is Marc Bulger and he is facing one of the worst, if not the worst, pass defenses in the league. I dont care about college players who may or may not end up on the Rams at the moment.
          @EssexRam_

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            Re: Not a Good Day For QB

            Originally posted by tomahawk247 View Post
            Actually, today could be a good day for a QB. His name is Marc Bulger and he is facing one of the worst, if not the worst, pass defenses in the league. I dont care about college players who may or may not end up on the Rams at the moment.

            Well, you should care because one of them will- regardless of how Marc Bulger does today.
            Last edited by RamsFanSam; -10-18-2009, 07:18 AM. Reason: Questions like this are what PM's are for.

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              Re: Not a Good Day For QB

              This could be the year that if Bradford is healthy at the combine and with Washington, Cleveland, and possibly even Oakland looking for a QB.....the Rams could trade down and get the WR this team needs.

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              • r8rh8rmike
                The Watercooler: Who Are The Rams' Top Draft Options At QB?
                by r8rh8rmike
                10.22.2009 12:27 pm
                Who are Ramsí top draft options at QB?
                By Roger Hensley

                THE WATERCOOLER

                QUESTION: If the St. Louis Rams were to take a quarterback in the first round of next yearís draft, which current college quarterback would you suggest they select?

                BERNIE MIKLASZ
                Very tough call, and of course I reserve the right to change my mind later, after these kids play more games and also go through the NFL Scouting Combine. Because a lot can change between now and the draft. But if we are talking right now, Iíd go with Washingtonís Jake Locker. Big (6-3), strong and athletic, Locker has a plus arm, and a quick release. Heís been thriving in the pro-style offense installed by first-year head coach Steve Sarkisian. Also, Locker is being tutored by one of the best, QBs coach Steve Clarkson, who in the past has worked with Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Leinart and others. Clarkson cleaned up Lockerís mechanics and the improvement was immediate. And keep in mind that Locker is getting it done at Washington, and heís not surrounded by elite talent. That makes his performance even more impressive.

                Notre Dameís Jimmy Clausen has moved up as an NFL prospect. Clausen has always had the natural talent, but heís grown at Notre Dame, and is more physically imposing now. Looks like a tough kid, too. He is certainly used to pressure and it doesnít get to him. The best is yet to come for Clausen. The red flags are out on Oklahomaís Sam Bradford; itís not only the shoulder injuries, but the questions of whether he can throw while under pressure, because he doesnít encounter much of a pass rush at OU. Cincinnatiís Tony Pike could be the steal of the draft; heís likely to be downgraded and drop down the board because of multiple injuries to his left wrist. But heís a player. Not sure if Colt McCoy (Texas) has the frame, but he seems like a good fit for a West Coast offense. Jevan Snead (Ole Miss) has been touted by scouts and draftniks, but I havenít seen enough (yet) to get excited by his NFL future. Again, that could change. All of this could.

                VAHE GREGORIAN
                With his bum shoulder this season, Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford may be losing stock for the 2010 draft or may even be considering waiting another year to come out. But if heís available, the Rams would be wise to snap him up. Although he could stand to be more mobile, especially considering the Rams line, last yearís Heisman Trophy winner has all the tools to build a team around: accuracy (67.9 percent of his passes last season), height (6-4) and a leadership presence that makes players want to play better just for him, OU coach Bob Stoops says. Maybe some will see the shoulder injury and apparent aggravation of it last week against Texas as something chronic or signs he is brittle, but sometimes quarterbacks just get hit and hurt. Thereís no reason to think itís anything more with Bradford.

                JEFF...
                -10-22-2009, 04:20 PM
              • npow81
                For Me...Its Down to Three QBs
                by npow81
                After seeing everybody play in Mobile, and keeping everything in mind (estimated draft position, etc.) if we are to draft a qb in this draft I think it comes down to three players.

                Colt McCoy
                Tony Pike
                Dan Lefevour

                I know the Clausen and Bradford supporters might come out and state their case, but I honestly don't think the value of either supercedes (1) taking the BPA at #1 (or even at #3 as some want), which they certainly are not (2) the difference in ability from the three above players.

                Personally, while I wouldn't be disappointed seeing us draft McCoy at the top of the second, if he's there, again I think the same principle as above comes into play in the second and there is too little difference in value between McCoy and Pike and Lefevour to bypass the bevy of talent likely available at that slot.

                Therefore, hoping (and praying) either Pike or Lefevour is available in the third I take the remaining qb in the third and I think we have our qb of the future. Either of which I would be plenty happy with. As always, its a roll of the dice drafting a qb, but I think this situation will maximize value while minimizing the risk associated with drafting a qb and allowing us to fulfill other important holes along the way.
                -01-31-2010, 02:29 AM
              • Guest's Avatar
                McCoy > Bradford?
                by Guest
                as per another thread..

                Quote:
                Originally Posted by GROUND DOG 39
                Listening to 101 ESPN St Louis Radio and Trent Dilfer was giving his opinion on this years QB's in the draft. He has watched every snap of Bradford, Colt McCoy and Jimmy Clausen. In fact he has watched all Bradford's career three times.
                He believes the Rams are making a grave mistake, if they draft Bradford.
                Colt McCoy is much the better prospect in his eyes, showing the skills, which will much better to translate to the NFL. He believes Bradford will struggle with pressure, be unable to keep plays alive, and struggle with the mental side.
                He said he is very worried for the Rams and was quite convincing with his points.
                Is anyone in the same mindset?...

                Yes 100%. McCoy will be a better NFL QB than Bradford will be. I'm sorry if you are on the Bradford band wagon and put your future Rams success and hopes already in Bradford, but the media and whoever else has blown up Bradford.

                Why is it when they were playing football still SUH was the number one draft pick hands down? Because he was the best college football player that was playing that had a impact on his team. Now Bradford is? what has changed? Nothing! Media blows things up and changes so many things that it changes peoples mindsets.

                McCoy and Bradford have both had bad games like any human being has bad games or times, thats a none issue. But what McCoy has to offer has far more upside, he doesn't have that media storm to build up his stock. The people who think he has this great potential aren't saying anything because they want everyone to think he will slip to the 2nd round. Those same people will take him sometime in the mid 1st round.

                I pray and hope we take BPA SUH as our no.1 pick and we trade up and take McCoy in the first. We get a generation DT and our QB of the future. With great leadership and a will to be the best.

                Before you respond in negative please open your mind up and think about
                -04-03-2010, 04:08 PM
              • r8rh8rmike
                Tampa's McCoy Targets Bradford
                by r8rh8rmike
                Tampa's McCoy targets Bradford

                BY KATHLEEN NELSON
                Thursday, October 21, 2010

                Tampa Bay defensive tackle Gerald McCoy's ominous-sounding threats Wednesday toward Rams quarterback Sam Bradford need to be put in the proper context. And there's a whole lot of context.

                First, the two have known each other since their days in Oklahoma City's junior football leagues, when they played on different teams but never played each other.

                "Man, they didn't want none of that," McCoy said jokingly. "They were hiding from us."

                Second, they formed a strong bond as teammates at Oklahoma, where Bradford won the Heisman Trophy and McCoy was an All-American, with 40 starts, 14 1/2 sacks and 33 tackles for loss. The forbidden fruit for the 6-foot-4, 295-pound McCoy, though, was plying his trade against the Sooners' star QB.

                "I remember watching him in summer workouts," Bradford said. "He was a big guy, but you could see him jumping over hurdles, running over bags and you'd sit there and say, 'A guy that big is not supposed to move like that.' He's a great athlete. He's a force in the middle. You really can't say enough good things about him."

                Third, McCoy respects Bradford's ability. He called Bradford "one of the most accurate quarterbacks I've ever seen. I love the way Sam plays. Me and my father were talking the other day and I said, 'You know who runs a good bootleg? It's Sam.'"

                Fourth, the two have kept in contact since Bradford was taken first overall in the draft and McCoy was selected third.

                "I try and call Sam. It's rare for him to pick it up. It's not because he's avoiding me; it's because he's so busy," McCoy said. "He'll call me back and I'll miss his call. But we connected yesterday and I got to talk to him a little bit. We're both looking forward to it."

                So, here's the tough part for Rams fans to swallow. His message to "Sammy," as he often calls him, was the same as it was months ago at the NFL Combine.

                "I'm going to kill him," McCoy said Wednesday. "If I can get to him, I'm going to kill him. We are definitely cool off the field. But on the field, I do not know him. He is No. 8 for the Rams, and that's all I know."

                McCoy embellished the message, adding that if he sacks Bradford, "I might even do something dirty, like knee him or something. When we get off the field, I'll say, 'Hey, Sam, don't take it personal, man. It was an accident.'"

                Bradford acknowledged hearing the smack talk and even offered an excuse. "At Oklahoma, he was never allowed to hit me," Bradford said. "So, I think he's got a lot of built-up frustration that he's going to try to take out on Sunday."

                Talk comes easily to the chatty McCoy, but Bucs...
                -10-21-2010, 09:21 PM
              • AvengerRam_old
                Which QB Do You Want?
                by AvengerRam_old
                Which of the following QB prospects do you hope to see on the Rams in 2010?
                Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
                33.75%
                27
                Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame
                17.50%
                14
                Colt McCoy, Texas
                16.25%
                13
                Jake Locker, Washington
                12.50%
                10
                Jevan Snead, Ole Miss
                5.00%
                4
                Tim Tebow, Florida
                11.25%
                9
                Tim Hiller, Western Michigan
                1.25%
                1
                Tony Pike, Cincinnati
                2.50%
                2
                -10-05-2009, 05:22 AM
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