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I'm sure we'll do a lot of these polls before all is said and done. Let's see who the Clan likes right now (assume the Rams are in a position to select any of the players listed).
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68Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma1.47%1Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska48.53%33Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame16.18%11C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson1.47%1Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State4.41%3Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma2.94%2Jake Locker, QB, Washington14.71%10Eric Berry, S, Tennessee2.94%2Tim Tebow, QB, Florida2.94%2Taylor Mays, S, USC0.00%0Colt McCoy, QB, Texas4.41%3Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida0.00%0 -
Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
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Real tough decision between Suh and Claussen for me, but I had to go with Claussen.
IMO Claussen has been the best offensive player in College football and Suh has been the best defensive players. If its not for 2 fluke picks Jimmy Claussen has 23 TDs to 2 interceptions. That is absolutely crazy. He is a great leader and a really tough kid. Being Notre Dame's QB is the most pressurized position in College football. He has 30 plus starts, excellls in a pro style system, and performs well behind a shoddy offensive line, make him an extremely pro ready QB. Its about the intangibles that really put him over the top most notably leadership, excelling under pressure, and toughness. He just has things you can't teach. The ability to lead 4th quarter comebacks and single bring a team back and carry them on your back, you just can't account for. In one the comebacks he was hurt went out of the game came back and lead the team to victory. Granted it was against purdue, but that is the stuff of legends. He is a Franchise QB IMO and the Rams just can't pass that upComment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
For me it's Suh. Clausen is overrated and there really isn't a QB on the list that is top 5 material. Clausen has success against Washington State but can't make the pass to win games against Navy and Connecticut....he will be a bust in the NFL. Besides, even though he plays in a West Coast offense he sure is in the shotgun quite a bit.
Suh takes over games. He's one DT that can rush the passer and stop the run. He will open up Long on the outside because teams won't be able to handle him one on one.
However, last time I checked.....I wasn't a scout or anything.....just a flunkie on a message board spewing out stuff he knows very little about really.
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
i went with suh..i really think the rams might try to find a qb already in the nfl, so a guy with this much ability on the d-line is too good to pass up right now.Comment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
I said Colt McCoy. The guy has the most wins by a starting college QB and highest completion percentage by a college QB in a season and that's without any real running game. Teams know they just have to stop Colt and they haven't been able to do it. This is a good year to roll the dice and try and grab our franchise guy. Suh would really help, but I have a gut feeling Spags, a former defensive coordinator, is willing to throw higher picks at at the offense. Claussen would be good too, but according to wikipedia he just lost in a bar altercation and we want winners on this team.Comment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
I went with Suh. I can't keep reading articles about our lack or run support killing Spags. We need our coach alive! Seriously though, Suh will provide a presence in the middle of the line that we've been sorely lacking for years now, and he'll take the heat off of Chris Long, Cliff Ryan and (possibly) Adam Carriker. He turns the unit into a real strength, and provides depth as well, something else we're lacking at the moment.Comment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
Ah, finally the clan has come to there senses.Comment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
Suh?
Suh is this year's Aaron Curry, just because he is the best player available and people think that the 2nd round talent is about the same as the 1st round talent we do not address our biggest need.
Carriker has another year left on his contract and we do not have a QB or a sure-fire #1 WR so i'd go with Dez bryant or Jimmy Clausen
*i voted Dez Bryant then read the thing AV posted about "assume the Rams are in a position to select any of the players listed" so if all are still available i say go Clausen but i dont think he will be available for us.Comment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
You cant compare a picking a SLB top 3 to picking a DT top 3. 2 Completely different things. A dominant DT has a much greater overall impact on your defense than a SLB. We also cant count on Carriker because he has never played 16 games. You could also argue DT is a bigger need than QB and WR.Originally posted by BarronWade View Post
Also if the season ends now we are picking in the top 3 with the Bucs and Cleveland. Bucs have their Franchise QB. Who knows what the Browns will do with a new organization coming in. At this point Claussen is a verry likely option at this pointComment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
I'm going with Clausen. It's time for our franchise to get a new face, a new start.
Other options could be:
Suh
G. McCoy
Damian Williams
Dez Bryant
Jake Locker
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
Suh literally makes the entire Defense better if he can do what everyone claims he can do.Originally posted by BarronWade View PostAlways and Forever a fan of the St. Louis RamsComment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
I want King Kong. Suh is going to make an impact. We are having teams run all over us. Suh can pass rush and stop the run. I'll take him right now.
We do need a top tier WR and franchise QB, but Spags is a defensive minded coach and I wouldn't be shocked one bit if we went with Suh.Comment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
"Sweet Suh' is my pick because the QB's are not top 5 talent and we need a plug in the middle of our D-Line. The drop-off in QB talent IMO is not that great that we cannot find a solid franchise QB in the second round. Besides I'm convinced Bulger will be around next year for us and that allows a QB to learn the NFL and not get tossed to the wolves. Sanchez and Stafford are good not great yet, a year of learning might have been a worthwhile exercise.
Suh also seems to be one of those DT's types like Vince Wolfolk or Tommie Harris that anchor a defense.
Go Rams!Comment
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Re: Who's your choice for the Rams' first pick (pre-Thanksgiving edition)
Right now, I'd go with Ndamukong Suh.Comment
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If the Rams don't trade down from the first pick in the draft, their choice really comes down to four players.
The Frontrunner: Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
I call Suh the frontrunner because he is the player that most people consider the best prospect in the draft. While I obviously don't have any inside information from the Rams, I certainly can see a coach like Steve Spagnuolo, who built a champion defense on the strength of the D line, favoring Suh.
The Dark-Horse Candidate: Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
While he is currently overshadowed by Suh, he is still considered a top 3-5 pick. If Suh slides during the evaluation period, while McCoy shines, he could rise to the top.
The Cult Favorite: Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Those who like Clausen really like him. In my opinion, his size is potentially an issue, and I'll be curious how he is reported as comporting himself in interviews. That said... QBs can rise quickly in the eyes of scouts, coaches and personnel guys. Just ask Mark Sanchez.
The Forgotten Candidate: Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Bradford may have been the first pick in the 2009 draft had he come out. Now he stands as the poster child for those who advocate early departures from college. Still, if he passes all the tests he'll be put through in the next few months, teams could fall in love again with his 2008 game tapes.
There are other top prospects who I really don't think the Rams would take No. 1 overall. I have Derrick Morgan rated #2 on my draft board, but I really don't see the Rams passing on Suh (or McCoy) to take him. Eric Berry and Joe Haden are A list DBs who will both go in the top 10 selections, but again, not to the Rams at No. 1. The Rams may like C.J. Spiller (as do I), but they can't afford to take a RB at No. 1 unless they trade Jackson, which isn't likely to happen. Finally, Dez Bryant, though a top WR prospect, does not appear to be a guy who would go that high.
So, in my book... its one of these four players or a trade down (which I don't expect to happen).
Anyone think there are more than four candidates?-01-18-2010, 03:45 PM -
Personally, ill probably lose popularity for this, but i wanna grab Clausen over Suh at this point. I want us to trade down a few spots and pick up another 2nd round pick (or first round if humanly possible) and grab him. I love Suh just as much as the next guy but he wont get us a passing offense....and we still don't know what we have in Carriker, Ryan has been solid as well. Long has definitely come along and will hold down the LE spot, and hopefully we can pick up another DE in the second round or through FA.
The rams will quite simply continue to fail utterly without a quarterback and this was as plain as day in our most recent failure against the *****. Shut the ***** out of the game for 3 quarters!!! Then let them poor it on in the last quarter because no doubt our defense got gassed, and the ***** were able to pull it out because they have an offense and we don't..
Give us a quarterback that can make all the throws (love him or not: Clausen can make all the throws) and we have a chance to win that ball game. I'm not knocking Null because i understand his situation, but you put a Warner (who Clausen reminds me of sort of, with a bigger arm) and you convert those field goals in the points. Broad assumption but i think its at least reasonable to say, despite our horrible o-line woes, Clausen with his quick release could have converted a lot more of those third downs with less arid throws and accidents.
Making the Case for ClausenStrengths: Solid size and adequate bulk
Very good arm strength; can fit balls into tight windows
Extremely quick, snappy release
Great accuracy
Nice hip torque on throws
Gets rid of ball quickly
Very decisive with the football
Takes what defense gives him; doesn't force ball/will throw away
Elite football IQ
Great touch
Well versed in NFL offense
Good sense of timing
Will step up/out of pocket
Knows how to read coverage
Sees the entire field; great vision
Very polished for a true junior
Shown outstanding development from freshman to junior season
Extremely intelligent
Ice in his veins; great poise
Mentally tough; plays through pain
Big leader
Confident
Film room rat
Elite intangibles
Good genetics and very well coached
Spent 3.5 years in a West Coast offense
Weaknesses:
Does a poor job of selling play action
Footwork used to be a bit shoddy, has improved
Not a fluid athlete
Personality might come off as abrasive
Sometimes gets too much air under fade route
Lacks a little pocket awareness
We want less rookie down time because we need wins NAO; this guy is the most pro ready quarterback in this years draft EASY.
Interesting tid bit on Clausen's stats Ive found.
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Per ESPN Insider,
ESPN Insider's KC Joyner evaluated Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and writes, "It is said that this is one of the deepest defensive line drafts in NFL history and the metrics say Suh is head and shoulders above his positional competition. He should be the No. 1 pick in the draft."
But here's where the problem comes in: the St. Louis Rams pick first -- this tweet from NFL Insider Adam Schefter gives us the Top 10 -- and rumors have been building that they will be taking a QB with that No. 1 pick. The NFL is the League of Quarterbacks, after all, not the League of Defensive Tackles.
If that happens, the Detriot Lions and their fans would be ecstatic, as they would love to see Suh in Motown.
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Quite frankly, I'd be upset if this happens. Unless Sam Bradford/Clausen show that they ARE the future of this organization and is worth the 1st pick of the draft, we have to pick the best player available.
Honestly, I'd be shocked if we don't pick Suh but you never know. What scares me the most is screwing up landing a high caliber player like Suh.-01-04-2010, 04:39 PM -
The problem I have with drafting Suh is, I actually think our interior DL is pretty good at the moment.
If you bring on Suh, that gives you Douzable, Ramsey, Gibson, Scott, Ryan, and Suh. Meanwhile, on the edge, we have Long, Victor, and Hall. This could all change via free agency, of course.
All of our interior guys are decent players, and Scott and Ryan are actually pretty good. Our edge guys are okay, but do not provide consistent pressure on opposing QBs. And I am not convinced that Suh will provide a pass rush in the NFL.
So the actual improvement of the team will be marginal with the addition of Suh. We need game changers. We need edge rushers, shut down corners, big play WRs, and a stud QB. If we add Suh, we will STILL need edge rushers, shut down corners, big play WRs, and a stud QB.
I would rather have Spiller, Bryant, Berry, or Clausen. These guys appear to be the game changers that rate as top 5 picks.-01-12-2010, 06:35 AM -
I can't be the only one that gets annoyed by all these so called draft "experts" that change there mind like r8rh8rmike changes his underwear...about once a week.
I'm going to use SI's main mock "expert" as an example. Not becuase he's the best, but because his past mocks are easy to find. H3e's just an example of what annoys me.
Don Banks 2010 NFL Mock Drafts thusfar:
Suh is a rock solid concensus as the surest thing. Sounds great, right?
So roughly a month later, the day before the DT's do anything at the combine, the rock solid concensus is now split 50/50 and McCoy is our choice. Um ok. Nothing changed so why did his opinion?
So because of one quote from Devaney, who is only making picks to save his job, we're now taking a QB in Stafford. Yeah ok, whatever you say Donny boy.
Again implying they'll pick to stay employed rather than to make the pick that helps the team the most, while also covering his backside in case they don't pick Bradford. Pretty typical "expert" BS.
Bradford had a good pro day so now it's a sure thing. OK now at this point I can see someone switching to Bradford as a possibility, but before no way. It just makes no sense. But even still what happened to Suh the "rock solid concensus as the surest thing.?"
WOW. We sure did a 180 in two and a half months didn't we. First Suh is the "rock solid concensus as the surest thing" and now to take anyone but Bradford is "the kind of stunning turn of events we haven't seen in years."
This is just one example of what annoys me about these "experts." McShay has flopped from Suh to Bradford also, while Kiper has flipped from Suh being "the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen in 32 years of doing this." to Clausen. It seems like they build up and exaggerate the plus side of whoever they want. For the longest time all we heard was Suh is a lock to go #1 to the Rams, and now it's a QB. Yes I know Blger is now gone, but these guys flopped to QBs while he was still here. Is it anything more than hype and these draft guys feeding off of each other that made Suh go from the guaranteed pick to now being the #2 DT behind McCoy in many people's eyes? I just don't get it. These guys annoy the crap out of me....-04-17-2010, 09:26 PM
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