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How soon does someone snatch him up in the draft? He will almost surely get the heisman after last night performance with 200+ yards and 3 td's. The dude is in simple terms, a monster. Very steven jackson esque. I dont think we will take him but it is nice to dream.
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Re: Toby Gerhart
I watched him play last night against Notre Dame, and this guy is a tough runner. But, he kind of reminds me of Brian Leonard because they are both physical runners, not very fast, hard-working athletes.
If Gerhart is available in the second round, I might consider grabbing him, but with so many needs, I don't know.
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Re: Toby Gerhart
I see our draft going like this
round 1: BPA, we need a surefire good player here someone at low risk of failure, hard to guess who it will be.
round 2: Qb, bulger position with rams in question and we need a qb of the future
round 3-7: BPA, I dont think spags is worrying about filling the holes in the team as much as he just wants some players who have alot of talent and potential.
Edit: one of the few things i think we wont take a hard look at this offseasn is a rb, does that mean we wont take another rb? No, but it will be a stretch to take gerhart no matter how good he is.Comment
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Re: Toby Gerhart
Its more of a likely chance we get more of a speedy guy later in the draft, maybe rounds 3-5, like Dexter McCluster from Ole Miss.Comment
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Re: Toby Gerhart
I don't see a whole lot of Steven Jackson in him. Gerhart is much more of a power runner. A lot of people assume Jackson is as well because of his size, and while he does have power in his arsenal, I think he's more of an all-around back. I don't see Jackson's versatility in Gerhart.Originally posted by 01d 0rd3r View Post
This comparison is a bit better. I wouldn't be surprised if Toby had a similar path to Leonard, as in he may get overdrafted because of his toughness and production but doesn't find a great fit in the NFL and becomes more of a situational player.Originally posted by RockinRam View Post
Why not just say BPA in every round? Why QB specifically for the second round?Originally posted by 01d 0rd3r View PostComment
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Re: Toby Gerhart
I see the 1st round as to early for a qb and the 3rd as to late, 2nd seems like the perfect round IMO. Other then that its all BPA.Originally posted by Nick View PostComment
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Even if QB isn't close to being the BPA in the second round?Originally posted by 01d 0rd3r View Post
I just don't see a reason to try and force a position into a specific round. I'd like to see the Rams find a QB in the first three rounds too, but if none of them are of good value when the Rams are up, I don't think we should reach out of need.Comment
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Re: Toby Gerhart
That is assuming that there is a qb worthy of a 2nd round pick of course. If there is a qb worthy of a 2nd round pick i think we should take him, even if he isnt the best player available. But of course if there is no 1st-2nd round qb talent when we pick in the 2nd then dont force a situation.Originally posted by Nick View PostComment
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I didn't want to say it but yeah, you're right he does LOOK a lot like Leonard not sure if that is why he is warranting the comparisons I hope not.Comment
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The last few drafts seem to be slim on highly drafted RBs, with maybe one cracking the top 15.
While this year looks to be no different, the quality and productivity of this bunch could cause a team that is already good to go that way earlier than expected. There looks to be six or seven backs who will go from late round one to mid round two
The Giants certainly will be looking for a starting back, with David Wilson highly questionable with neck surgery clouding his career.
Would they go for one 12th overall? Sesm a deal down first might be done first.
The Jets pick 18th, and also need a running back, as does Miami, picking 19th.
With the pick they got from Indy, Cleveland may well draft Trent Richardson's replacement, or they could wait till their own 2nd, just a few selections later.
Is Dallas sure they have THE guy there?
That would be a bit of a risk though, because some playoff clubs could really use a back.
Even Seattle and the Niners, with good backs in place, teams that rely on the running ga,e a lot, could be looking at this bunch as early as the first round.
The Saints need a top back still, and the Ravens might need to start looking for Rice's replacement.
Early in round two, Jacksonville seems sure to take a RB to replce Jones-Drew, who was picked around that spot. If Cleveland hasn't taken a RB yet, they will almost certainly get one early in round two.
If they still have a second rounder, the Falsons may look to get Steven Jackson's replacement there.
It could get really interesting once a RB or two comes off the board, and interesting till t hen to see how they stack up rank wise.-01-10-2014, 02:15 PM -
I never think it's too early for mocks, and even though they are usually ridiculous speculation, I think it's fun and generates some debate. So here goes:
Round 1: Ndamukong Suh, DT Nebraska - Whether or not we pick #1 overall...Whatever it takes to get this guy, we must do it, even if it means trading up to get him. He is a freak of nature. On top of that, he's intelligent, articulate, a superb athlete and fits the 4 Pillars to a tee.
And we can't be afraid to draft another DT despite Kennedy, Carriker (playing out of position), Pickett etc. and their results.
I think he would instantly make Ryan, Long, Lauranitis and Company a better and potent front 7. Starter from day 1.
Round 2: Dez Bryant, WR OK State - This one is iffy because many feel he is a top 10 talent, but he just may slip into the top of the 2nd with the NCAA suspension...Just might put off some NFL execs.
We need to be drafting BPA available regardless of position, because we are desperate for playmakers on BOTH sides of the ball. Bryant just happens to fit a need as well. Big, fast, strong. There have been some questions about his hands, but that's something that can be coached.
Alternates here (if we go WR) include Golden Tate, ND / Brandon LaFell, LSU / Damian Williams USC & Aurelious Benn, ILL (who was hurt by the wacky offensive system at ILL and lack of a productive QB this year.)
Round 3: Tim Tebow, QB Florida - OK, before you start ripping me, please hear me out. By round 3, Bradford, Locker, Claussen, McCoy will all probably be gone. Tebow may as well, but if he is there at the top of round 3, you almost HAVE to take him.
I keep hearing about his mechanics and delivery. Trust me, these are things that can be fixed at the NFL level, at least with the right coach.
One thing you can't fix, is the desire and will to win. This guy has that in spades. He is the type of guy that will put a team on his shoulders and absolutely carry them to a win. When was the last time we had that at Rams Park?
His footwork is not an issue, as he is very mobile and athletic. I want a guy like this on my team, the perfect example of BPA and great value at the top of round 3.
QB alternates here include Dan LeFevour (another favorite), Tony Pike and Zac Robinson. A deep class for QBs.
Round 4: Toby Gerhart, RB Stanford - This guy is a stud, and may fall to the top of round 4. He would be the perfect compliment and ultimate replacement for Jackson. Bruising runner and good pass catcher, plus the dude can block. He also throws the ball well.
Options here at RB include Noel Devine, but I think round 4 is a little high for Devine because of his size. He would be a great change of pace back though.
Alternate picks would be DE and OLB - BPA.
Round 5.1: Roddrick Muckelroy, OLB Texas
Round 5.2: Alex Carrington,...-12-12-2009, 01:38 PM -
I was watching Sportcenter and Mel Kiper that nut head was talking about where potential QB's can go in the draft. I happened to notice that Andre Woodson name was not mentioned. So I continued to watch until in the last moment he talked about how Woodson has slipped since the start of the season and the practice of senior bowl. I think this kid has a bunch of potential, has a big arm and is durable. He can also move out of the pocket. Only knock on him is his slow delivery so here is my question of he is still on the board during the 3rd round should the Rams pick him up and slowly develop him? I think this kid is going to be a stud in a couple of years.-03-04-2008, 05:00 AM
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When I look at LaGeratte Blount, I see a talented player with some character concerns and a fair amount of talent. I think that we should consider him in the fifth round for several reasons.
1) He would provide us with the #2 back that we've been looking for, and he could step in for a game or two and start if Jackson gets hurt. He's a bruiser of a back, and we could use him on third and short situations amongst other things.
2) He would bring a great versatility to our running game. We could keep defenses guessing by going with a two back set as they wouldn't know who's getting the ball. He could also play spot duty at full back so he could fill in for Karney or lead block in a two back set.
3) He's a second round talent who has fallen to fifth round consideration because of his character concerns. However, I don't think that the concerns are as bad as some people make out. Don't get me wrong, I think that the Boise State incident was disgusting and there was no excuse for it, however I think his problems lie with controlling his emotions rather than off-field incidents. He would be in a good situation in St. Louis as SJax could take him under his wing and really help him develop as both a running back and a person. Also, I think that he's smartened up after the Boise State game, as he now knows that there will be severe consequenses for his actions (he wasn't even expected to play college ball again, let alone get drafted).
Overall, I think that he would be a steal in the fifth round and that he would be in a good situation to really develop and mature here in St. Louis. What are your thoughts on him?-04-05-2010, 12:48 PM -
How many 1rst round defensive lineman have we drafted since 1995.?
How many times have we heard that THIS guy is going to make a difference?
How many years have we waited for THIS guy to develope into the pick we've spent on him?
I know a new HC (and a good one IMO)
I know a new GM (also a good one IMO)
But as fans, we have put ALOT of hope into that D line, and I for one am ready to get a QB. Yes he has question marks about his durability, and the spread offense he comes from, but his accuracy,quick release and ability to get the ball out quickly, certainly give me more hope than another tackler.
I know Suh COULD be more than just another tackler but what if he isnt.What if we have to wait 3-4 years for him to grow into the roll? Then we would have wasted ANOTHER 1rst round pick on a position that our new HC should be able to coach up.
With a 1rst OA pick at the QB position I think after the first year we will KNOW what we have and if we've done our homework I think we could be in a much better position.
Its just surprising to me that with ALL we have invested in the Dline already there are guys still wanting to put ANOTHER 1rst round pick there.
Yes its still a hole but I think our coach will get more out of them in his 2nd year.-03-22-2010, 07:17 AM
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