Looking for feedback on QB's

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I am looking for feedback from this esteemed board.

I have listed 15 QB that were drafted in the top 5 from 1980 to 2008 below. These QBs are just the ones that I believe range from decent to HOFer; no busts here.

NOTE: I left off the busts like Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith and Joey Harrington. My list is about half of all the QBs taken in the top 5 since 1980.

So I am looking for feedback on which of these QBs should not be considered high quality QB's capable of leading a team to the Super Bowl.

Please look it over and fire away. Thx.

1982 5 Jim McMahon
1983 1 John Elway
1986 3 Jim Everett
1987 1 Vinny Testaverde
1989 1 Troy Aikman
1993 1 Drew Bledsoe
1995 3 Steve McNair
1998 1 Peyton Manning
1999 2 Donovan McNabb
2001 1 Michael Vick
2003 1 Carson Palmer
2004 4 Philip Rivers
2004 1 Eli Manning
2006 3 Vince Young
2008 3 Matt Ryan
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[Dominating D]

Re: Looking for feedback on QB's

Oh no you did'int.... You had to put Chis Everett on the list

Since Vick made it to the championship game I have to say he is capable. Not sure about Young but the rest look good to me.

Go Rams

[RebelYell]

Re: Looking for feedback on QB's

Young had a solid season this year. Are you looking for guys who are capable of carrying a QB to the Superbowl or capable of playing in the Superbowl? Because to play there doesn't take a heck of a lot. Big Ben was below average his first time and Trent Dilfer won a Superbowl. At that point in their careers, neither was much more than a QB who avoided making mistakes. (you didn't even include Dilfer in the list and he won a Superbowl!) Guys I'd add are Dilfer, Pennington, Culpepper (for a while in there), Roethlisberger and Steve Young.

[Dominating D]

Re: Looking for feedback on QB's

Young had a solid season this year. Are you looking for guys who are capable of carrying a QB to the Superbowl or capable of playing in the Superbowl? Because to play there doesn't take a heck of a lot. Big Ben was below average his first time and Trent Dilfer won a Superbowl. At that point in their careers, neither was much more than a QB who avoided making mistakes. (you didn't even include Dilfer in the list and he won a Superbowl!) Guys I'd add are Dilfer, Pennington, Culpepper (for a while in there), Roethlisberger and Steve Young.

KEY WORDS TO ME

high quality QB's capable of leading a team to the Super Bowl.

Dilfer is not a high quality QB and did not lead his team to the Bowl the D did that.

[RebelYell]

Re: Looking for feedback on QB's

KEY WORDS TO ME

high quality QB's capable of leading a team to the Super Bowl.

Dilfer is not a high quality QB and did not lead his team to the Bowl the D did that.

So LEAD means carry? In the original post the OP says "decent", if you are a veteran who does exactly what the team requests of you, avoid mistakes and act as a leader, I'd call that a decent QB. Were Vick or Testaverde great?

[RebelYell]

Re: Looking for feedback on QB's

Oh, and Dilfer had a QB rating 5 points less than Vick and Testaverde. 7 less than Bledsoe. Dilfer had 2,000 yards less than Bulger.

[Dominating D]

Re: Looking for feedback on QB's

Oh, and Dilfer had a QB rating 5 points less than Vick and Testaverde. 7 less than Bledsoe. Dilfer had 2,000 yards less than Bulger.

QB rankings

1. Steve Young 96.1
drop 5 points
6. Chad Pennington 90.59
drop 5 points
17. Jake Delhomme 85.14
drop 5 more points
44. Dan Fouts 80.23
drop 5 points
72. Mike Vick 75.75
82. Viny Testevarde 75.00
drop 5 points
113. Trent Dilfer 70.18



114Vince Ferragamo70.08 115Steve Grogan69.61 116Doug Williams69.39 117Joey Harrington69.38 118Charley Johnson69.21 119Mike Tomczak 68.91 120Eric Hipple68.68 121Joe Ferguson68.45 122Charlie Conerly123Dave Brown67.89
124Billy Joe Tolliver67.74 125Marc Wilson67.70 126Tom Flores67.58 127Richard Todd67.57


Just 5 points less is a significant drop. Rank 82 to 113 not a small margin as you may have suggested.

Lead? I guess thats up to you or you need to ask the guy who ask the question.

I took it to mean a player that if things go wrong in the game that the team can look to that player to make the plays needed to win the game. I never felt Dilfer could win games his role on the team was not to lose games.

Go Rams