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    Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

    Here are the drills, tests and interviews that I think will have the biggest impact on the first round of the draft:

    Height Measurement: Jimmy Clausen
    I am convinced that he is not nearly as tall as he is listed (6'3). I'd guess that he's not much taller than 6'0. Fair or not, the difference of two inches can mean quite a bit for a QB in the first round.

    Weight Measurement: Ndamukong Suh
    The only number that I think could make some people question whether Suh's talents will translate to the NFL is his weight. If he's above 290, he'll be fine. If he were to weigh in at 285, some might question if he can hold up at DT.

    40 Yard Dash: Dez Bryant
    If Dez Bryant runs the 40 in 4.55 or less, he'll likely be a top 10 pick. If he runs in 4.45 or less, he could be a top 5 pick. If he runs in the 4.6s, he might not even be the first WR taken.

    Bench Press: Gerald McCoy
    If he really wows the scouts on the bench, it might cause some to consider him to be a prospect on par with Suh. Of course, if Suh outperforms him in strength tests, then he'll clearly be considered a level below.

    Physical Exam: Sam Bradford
    Had he come out in 2009, Bradford would have been selected in the top 10, and might have even been the first pick. Now, he has a huge question mark on his right shoulder. Throwing drills will tell a lot, but teams are really going to want to hear what the doctors have to say.

    Throwing Drills: Colt McCoy
    Scouts want to like McCoy. He has some great qualities, and a stellar career at Texas (which will be completed tonight). The question is, can he make "all the throws" that an NFL QB needs to make. Honorable mention in this category is Tim Tebow.

    Interview: Carlos Dunlap
    Dunlap was on his way to a Top 15 rating before he got into trouble with the law. Teams have to be concerned about off the field misconduct these days, particulatly with first round picks. If he comes accross as humble and contrite, teams will forgive his transgression and look at this talent.
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    Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

    AV, did you happen to listen to Devaney on 101ESPN?

    You'll love it, as did I. He was saying how he doesn't care if a guy like Suh gets 29 reps as opposed to 33 benching. He's proven himself on the football field. It's not a direct quote but that was the message and to me, it's quite relieving.
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      Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

      Originally posted by Varg6 View Post
      AV, did you happen to listen to Devaney on 101ESPN?

      You'll love it, as did I. He was saying how he doesn't care if a guy like Suh gets 29 reps as opposed to 33 benching. He's proven himself on the football field. It's not a direct quote but that was the message and to me, it's quite relieving.
      Yes, I read that in Nick's excellent summary of the interview.

      I agree that for Suh, the reps are not that important. For McCoy, the bench would be the one way he might get some to think he's a better prospect than Suh. If Suh were to to 25 reps, while McCoy did 35, that might cause some to say "hmmmm...." If its 35 to 32 reps, though, as Devaney said, who cares?

      Of course, from what I've read, Suh is a beast in the weightroom too (he reportedly bench presses 470), so my guess is he won't have a problem there.

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        Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

        Jimmy is going to measure in at about 6'2". A few video clips show him being about 2 - 3 inches taller than Golden Tate.

        I think he'll be fine.

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          Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

          Tate's only 5'10.

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            Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

            Originally posted by AvengerRam View Post
            Tate's only 5'10.
            Regardless, Clausen will be around 6'1" - 6'2". Being an inch short isn't going to make or break my decision of taking Clausen #1.

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              Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

              I hate Jimmy Clausen and I will guarantee you he will not be successful. Suh is an opportunity you just cannot pass on. I was watching an interview with Coach Spags, and he said if there is a player in the draft that is someone you cant pass up (even though you dont need them) you have got to take them.. i related this to Suh.. one of the best DT's in the draft for decades.

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                and to my post above.. we need a DT so carriker can move to end.. which makes us need him even more..

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                  Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

                  Originally posted by sosa39rams View Post
                  I hate Jimmy Clausen and I will guarantee you he will not be successful. Suh is an opportunity you just cannot pass on. I was watching an interview with Coach Spags, and he said if there is a player in the draft that is someone you cant pass up (even though you dont need them) you have got to take them.. i related this to Suh.. one of the best DT's in the draft for decades.
                  LMFAO, so the extreme hate for Clausen and the guarantee of him failing, are they related? * Rolls Eyes *

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                    Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

                    Originally posted by sosa39rams View Post
                    and to my post above.. we need a DT so carriker can move to end.. which makes us need him even more..

                    The ONLY way Carriker moves to end is maybe on rushing downs or at the goal line. Other than that, Carriker is too BIG, and too SLOW to be a 4-3 defensive end...

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                      Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

                      Originally posted by RamsFan16 View Post
                      Jimmy is going to measure in at about 6'2". A few video clips show him being about 2 - 3 inches taller than Golden Tate.

                      I think he'll be fine.
                      This is from Scott Wright's twitter following the ND-USC game (he was in attendence):

                      Got a real close look at Jimmy Clausen after the game. He appears to be a legit 6-3.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

                        Suh is listed at 305, and I have a hard time believing he could come in at less than 290. A thing to note is that his coaches say he is pound-for-pound the most athletic player on the Husker squad
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                        • #13
                          Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

                          Suh stated in an interview posted by Bald81 that he currently weighs in at 295. That's a good weight for his position.

                          As for Clausen's height, I guess we'll know after the Combine.

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                            I am 6ft 1/2in........you be the judge

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                              Re: Most Important Drills, Tests and Inteviews for Draft Crop

                              Considering that you (I assume that's you) are standing behind him, you can't really tell much from that picture.

                              Like I said, I'll wait for the Combine.

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                              • Nick
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                                INDIANAPOLIS -- It's rare that a pair of defensive tackles get as much attention at the combine as the elite quarterbacks. Then again, Nebraska's Ndamukong Suh and Oklahoma's Gerald McCoy are rare talents.

                                Suh and McCoy are likely rated higher on many teams' boards than quarterbacks Sam Bradford (Oklahoma) and Jimmy Clausen (Notre Dame), a rarity in today's offense-happy NFL.

                                The St. Louis Rams and Detroit Lions have the top two picks, and could use McCoy and Suh on their porous defenses. But two questions remain:

                                Who is better? And is either worth taking in the top two selections?

                                Neither question is easily answered. Suh said on Saturday that he would be happy for his "good friend" McCoy if he went No. 1. But he added that he'd "definitely be disappointed with myself not getting it. I'm a competitor. I want to be No. 1. So that's what I'm going to strive for."

                                That attitude is just one of the reason teams like his game. But despite Suh finishing fourth in the Heisman voting (85 tackles, 24 for loss, 12 sacks) while riding the wave of a dominant performance against Texas in the Big 12 Championship Game, McCoy will be ranked higher on some boards because of his ability to explode into the backfield as a three-technique. His quick first step especially works well in a one-gap system where he is full-go from the snap.

                                Because he redshirted, McCoy could have entered the draft after the 2008 season and been a first-round pick. But there was little doubt after an All-American junior year (15.5 tackles for loss, six sacks) that he would take his game to the NFL. After McCoy made his decision to leave school early, Sooners head coach Bob Stoops said: "I've never been associated with a young man who was any more impressive than Gerald." That's pretty high praise, even coming from a head coach.

                                Suh can play any position on the line but is not quite as explosive off the snap. His strength and motor allow him to be extremely effective pressuring the passer (he had 26 quarterback hurries along with those 12 sacks), although there is some concern that NFL interior linemen won't give in as easily as college linemen did to his bull rush. Still, his exceptional stamina, manhandling of opponents using strong, quick hands that added to his length and closing speed make him a likely star in the NFL.

                                Suh said Oklahoma's scheme allowed McCoy to display his explosiveness more than Bo Pelini's scheme at Nebraska. The hesitation off the snap could very well be indicative of his need to handle multiple responsibilities in the Huskers defense.

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                              • AvengerRam_old
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                                The one comment (which I've read from a handful of fans and a couple of analysts) that I just don't get is the suggestion that Gerald McCoy should be taken before Ndamukong Suh.

                                Based on what?

                                Go and look up their stats (I've posted them before and I don't have the time of patience to pull them again). Its not even close. Suh's production is essentially double that of McCoy.

                                And what's the context of these stats? Two guys who play in the same conference against the same competition level. Two guys who are close to the same size.

                                I've heard some try to argue that McCoy has better technique. I don't see it. From what I've seen, Suh has great technique for a college player. But, even if McCoy had better technique, SUH DOUBLED HIS PRODUCTION! Imagine how Suh could produce if his technique develops further.

                                If the Rams ultimately decide that they need to take a QB with the first pick, I'll be disappointed, but at least I'd understand the thinking. After all, if that pick were to turn into a franchise QB, nobody would argue with it in the long run. Similarly, if the Rams trade down, I'll have misgivings, but I'd understand the logic.

                                I'll tell you this, though. If the Rams stay a pick No. 1 and take McCoy over Suh, you will hear a loud sound coming from the Southeast United States.

                                It will be me screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!"
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                                There are logical reasons for this, many of which I will detail shortly. But the best and most succinct one was verbalized by an NFC general manager I talked to at Thursday’s NFL scouting combine: “McCoy is the better player.”


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                                But in numerous conversations this week with people who know talent – several of whom are familiar with Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo’s mindset – I’ve gotten the unequivocal impression that the prospect of St. Louis taking McCoy is very real. For all the hype about Suh and McCoy’s Sooners teammate, former Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Sam Bradford, it’s this big, explosive, high-effort inside pass-rushing threat who stands out as the probable top pick.


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                                “Kevin Williams?” the scout scoffed. “To me, he’s Warren Sapp, only bigger and stronger.” (Sapp’s response, via text message: “LMAO!”)


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