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  • Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

    I came across Scott Wright's mock draft dated 12/17/09. He has the Rams picking Sam Bradford, QB from Oklahoma as the no. 1 pick in the draft. He also has Terrance Cody, DT, Alabama going no. 21 to the Miami Dolphins.

    Is this old news? Has he updated his mock since then? I'm quite suprised by those two picks in particular. I found it here: draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

    What do you guys think about us taking Bradford with the 1st pick?

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    1 ST. LOUIS RAMS: SAM BRADFORD, QB, OKLAHOMA

    Washingtonís Jake Locker would have been the slam-dunk pick for St. Louis but he is going back for his senior year, which complicates things for the Rams. Do they just move to the next best quarterback and take either Sam Bradford from Oklahoma or Jimmy Clausen from Notre Dame or do they try to address their defense with Nebraskaís Ndamukong Suh? Steve Spagnuolo is a defensive-minded coach who loves to put pressure on the quarterback and right now the Rams donít have any difference-makers up front so Suh would make a lot of sense. However, everything revolves around the quarterback position and the Rams just canít afford to pass on a potential franchise signal caller. The Bradford / Clausen debate will likely go down to the wire but in the end I think Bradford gets the nod due to his superior intangibles. Bradford might have been the #1 overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft but he opted to spend another year in college. Unfortunately that didnít work out as planned and he wound up missing most of the season with an injury to his throwing shoulder, which required surgery. Despite the questions about his health / durability and concerns about the spread system he played in with the Sooners it looks as though Bradford is still in line to be a Top 10 pick as long as there are no red flags in the medical checkups. Even though Bradford doesnít have a cannon for an arm he possesses good size, is an extraordinarily accurate passer with a quick release and also extremely smart. Much like Atlanta fans who were clamoring for Glenn Dorsey over Matt Ryan there will surely be those who want the Rams to go with Suh. St. Louis will entertain that thought but at the end of the day they have to pull the trigger on a quarterback.

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    Last edited by viper; -01-18-2010, 01:54 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

    I think Scott Wright is an idiot.
    Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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    • #3
      Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

      Good thought Process wrong guy. IMO the only thing Bradford has Claussen beat with is height. Other than that Claussen is just as accurate, his arm is stronger, he has more experience in a pro style offense, Claussen is better in the pocket and under pressure, and the most overlooked, but extremely important aspect Claussen has him beat in is toughness.

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      • #4
        Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

        Originally posted by Varg6 View Post
        I think Scott Wright is an idiot.
        Unhelpfully & unsubstantiated extreme,imo. SW is a friend of the Clan & I remember his pre-draft conversation with us as one of the more interesting ones. I, for one , would like to see him here again & that won't help.

        Secondly, he was as close as any pundit on the top ten names & order in '09,inc The Rams pick. Hard to predict the Jets pick trade & hard to argue that Crabtree & Maclin wouldn't have helped The Hags & Raiders more than their actual picks.

        There's also a lot of accumulated draft history wisdom over the greater impact of a QB over a DT. You can help your D with a group of lesser guys. Not so @ QB as we well know from recent history.

        I think once the Combine med reports/workouts &Pro days are done, this pick won't seem so idiotic.

        Not sayin' i like it, just sayin' it isn't idiotic.

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        • #5
          Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

          Originally posted by Varg6 View Post
          I think Scott Wright is an idiot.
          While I disagree with his projection that the Rams will take Bradford with the first pick, he is by no means an idiot. In fact, Wright's site is one of the best resources for draft information on the web and, from what I can tell, he writes it all himself. He is also a "Friend of the Clan" as he has appeared here for live chats each of the last two years.

          Also... don't fool yourselves. If Bradford (1) receives a clean bill of health, (2) performs well in workouts and, (3) impresses the Rams coaches and Front Office personnel in interviews, he very well could be the first pick in the draft. How soon we forget that he could have been the first pick overall had he come out in 2009.

          I still want and expect Suh to be the pick, but there's a lot of time between now and April.

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          • #6
            Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

            Originally posted by AvengerRam View Post
            While I disagree with his projection that the Rams will take Bradford with the first pick, he is by no means an idiot. In fact, Wright's site is one of the best resources for draft information on the web and, from what I can tell, he writes it all himself. He is also a "Friend of the Clan" as he has appeared here for live chats each of the last two years.

            Also... don't fool yourselves. If Bradford (1) receives a clean bill of health, (2) performs well in workouts and, (3) impresses the Rams coaches and Front Office personnel in interviews, he very well could be the first pick in the draft. How soon we forget that he could have been the first pick overall had he come out in 2009.

            I still want and expect Suh to be the pick, but there's a lot of time between now and April.
            Exact kind of open mind all fans should take . Its a long way till April Mr. Suh isn't wearing Gold and Blue just yet.

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            • #7
              Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

              lol uhh I forgot how difficult it is to see when one is kidding.

              I wasn't being serious, sorry about that lol

              But in all seriousness, I disagree with his pick. I just think that picking the sure thing pick is the best route for us unless we trade up and get extra picks. A few guys wrote on here that perhaps Tampa would trade with us, allowing us to pick #3. Things change with that scenario.
              Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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              • #8
                Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

                Originally posted by viper View Post
                I came across Scott Wright's mock draft dated 12/17/09.
                Originally posted by viper View Post
                Is this old news?
                I think you kind of answered your own question, no?

                He updates his mocks more frequently as the draft draws closer, but because of the explanation he provides for each pick (as opposed to just listing the team and then the player), it takes him longer. I imagine he'll have an updated mock out soon, since underclassmen have declared.

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                • #9
                  Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

                  Though I don't agree with this pick (which I doubt will be the same as his final mock.....though it could be, who knows?) nor did I agree with his claim that Gholston was going to the Rams a couple of years ago, Scott's site should be one of the first sites you go to when looking for draft info.
                  The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

                    If Rams stay at the No.1 pick, they cant fail by picking Suh or one of the QBs. Even McCoy makes sense if he shows more than Suh.

                    We need help anywhere, so really it doesnt matter which of these players the Rams take
                    @EssexRam_

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                    • #11
                      Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

                      Which is why trading down to the 3rd or 4th pick and acquiring a couple more seems like the ideal situation to me. Unless the FO believes Suh is the dominant prospect many believe he is, I would be happy to see us trade down to 3 or 4, take Clausen or Bradford, and pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder in the process.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

                        It takes two to tango. Someone has to be willing to make that trade. Which may be easier said than done.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

                          Scott Wright has updated his mock draft today (1/22) and now has us taking Ndamukong Suh.

                          1. ST LOUIS RAMS: NDAMUKONG SUH, DT, NEBRASKA

                          Washingtonís Jake Locker would have been the slam-dunk pick for St. Louis but he decided to stay in school for his senior season, which complicates things for the Rams. Do they now address their defense with Nebraskaís Ndamukong Suh, who most consider to be the best prospect in this draft? Do they just move to the next best quarterback and reach for Sam Bradford from Oklahoma or Jimmy Clausen from Notre Dame? Steve Spagnuolo is a defensive-minded coach whose system revolves around generating pressure and right now the Rams donít have any difference-makers up front, which would seem to indicate Suh will be the choice. Itís rare to see a defensive tackle take over a game but that is exactly what Suh has demonstrated the ability to do on a consistent basis the past couple of years. Whether itís sacking the quarterback, making tackles behind the line of scrimmage or even intercepting passes, Suh is as dominant of a player at his position as the college game has seen in many, many years. However, as good as Suh is itís not a foregone conclusion that he will be the top defensive tackle selected in this draft. In reality Suh and Oklahomaís Gerald McCoy are essentially 1A and 1B on most boards, although Suh might have the slight edge. If by some chance a quarterback emerges as a legitimate contender for the #1 pick the Rams will have to seriously consider going that route because they canít afford to continue on with the likes of Marc Bulger, Kyle Boller and Keith Null. As a dark- horse keep an eye on Oklahoma State wideout Dez Bryant, who could be the playmaker in the passing game they've been lacking since Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce were in their primes.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

                            Originally posted by cfh128 View Post
                            As a dark- horse keep an eye on Oklahoma State wideout Dez Bryant, who could be the playmaker in the passing game they've been lacking since Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce were in their primes.
                            He can't be serious about this can he?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Scott Wright: Rams pick QB Sam Bradford #1

                              Originally posted by viper View Post
                              He can't be serious about this can he?
                              Agreed. Especially since he's mock has him going at 10. I'm pretty sure a team 1-9 would want a shot at Suh before we pick a WR #1. And he has Tim Tebow going to the Patriots. I'm pretty sure that would make my day if it happens

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                              • AvengerRam_old
                                Sam Bradford is the true "Wild Card" for the Rams first choice.
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                Last year at about this time, I suggested that, by the time the draft rolled around, Mark Sanchez could be on the Rams short list of players to select with the second pick in the draft. Many scoffed and, truth be told, even I was a bit uncertain with my prognostication. Of course, in the end, Sanchez rose from late first round prospect and became a top 5 pick on the strength of his workouts and interviews.

                                I can see a similar scenario occurring with Sam Bradford.

                                Last year, before Bradford decided to return to Oklahoma, many had him rated as a potential first pick in the draft. Then, as fate would have it, his season was scuttled by a shoulder injury.

                                Now, he is still considered a top 10 pick by most, but there are question marks.

                                So here are the "what ifs."

                                What if the doctors say he is fine and that there should be no long term impact from his shoulder injury?

                                What if he impresses at the Combine and/or his individual workouts?

                                What if he presents as a confident leader in his interviews?

                                If these things happen, the Rams very well could decide that the time is now to take a chance at drafting a potential franchise QB.

                                If that occurs, there will still be decisions to make. The Rams could, of course, simply select Bradford first. Alternatively, they could smokescreen a desire to take Ndamukong Suh and try to trade down. The logical trade partner would be Tampa, who likely would covet Suh, and would not take QB with the first choice (having spent a first round pick last year on a QB). Such a plan would not be foolproof, though. If, as some have speculated, the Redskins want Bradford, they could trade up with Detroit and take him at #2, thereby leaving the Rams to take who? (G.McCoy? Clausen?).

                                I'll leave the trade issue out of the analysis for now and simply say this.

                                Right now, I see Suh as being a prospect who is extremely likely (say 75%) to be an impact player at a very important position.

                                Right now, I see Bradford as being a prospect who has a decent chance (say 40-50%) to be an impact player at the MOST important position.

                                With those odds, I go with Suh (absent a great trade offer).

                                But if Bradford's stock rises, and I start to see him as having a better than 50% chance of being a franchise QB... then the choice becomes very difficult.

                                Bottom line: we're in the first lap of a multi-lap race. Its way too early to call the winner.
                                -02-02-2010, 09:03 AM
                              • OUSooners81
                                Sam Bradford
                                by OUSooners81
                                I think the best thing we could do this draft is to get Sam Bradford. I have been watching him all through his college career. He can throw all over the feild wether it is a deep pass or a short pass and be very accurate. Also he is a very big leader on and off the feild.
                                -03-26-2010, 12:21 PM
                              • RockinRam
                                Why I think Sam Bradford should be our guy
                                by RockinRam




                                First off, I am not an Oklahoma Sooner fan. On the contrary, I am a UT (Texas) fan, which makes it quite of a surprise that I like Bradford so much.



                                Now let's get down to business.


                                In this opinionated argument, I'm not going to harp on Suh. I'm going to stay closely to Bradford.

                                Okay, first point.

                                Devaney and Spags are trying to remake this franchise into their own philosophy and dynasty. In order to do that, they need a "fresh" start. And by fresh start it means setting the future for the most important position the field. The QB. In this perspective, ignoring everything else, Sam Bradford comes in to this team giving the Rams a new identity. It's the start of a new decade, and it should be the start of a new decade of Ram's football. We ended the last decade on a horrible note, stats wise, and it's time to start anew. Bradford coming in gives us that fresh start. No matter what people say about Suh, a fresh QB gives fans and the organization a much needed rejuvinator than a DT would ever give.


                                Second point

                                We are trying to run a West Coast Offense. And by what that means, we are not going to be consistently running huge pass plays, pass plays that require 50 yard bombs. We are running a timing offense, backed by a ground and pound running game led by Steven Jackson.

                                And Sam Bradford would excel in our offense. Why you ask?

                                Because,

                                1) Bradford excels in the short and medium pass routes. His accuracy in these departments are spot-on elite, and he has enough zip to be solid in the WCO.

                                2) He knows how to develop timing with his receivers. That is why the 2008 Oklahoma offense was so prolific. Bradford's timing with his receivers was insane. He is an amazingly smart QB who has great touch, feel, and timing to win in the NFL.

                                That is why he would succeed in our offense. A WCO is based on timing between the QB and WR, and Bradford would wreck havoc once he gets the timing down with our young WR's.


                                Third point

                                More of why Bradford is a close to perfect fit for our scheme.

                                Bradford is not a gun-slinger. That's been determined. He has above average arm strength, but he is by no means a Derek Anderson-Jamarcus Russell type QB.

                                But that's better for Bradford. You know why?

                                Because I would take a precision QB over a gun-slinging QB anyday of the week.


                                Let's compare Bradford and other similar QB's (For example a young Marc Bulger) to a sniper. A sniper is patient, he doesn't make foolish decisions. He intelligently picks his target, and once he does, he delivers to his target with precision and timing. Snipers excel.

                                Quarterbacks like Derek Anderson and Jamarcus Russell are gun-slingers. They can be compared to a shotgun. Shotguns aren't very...
                                -03-25-2010, 09:22 PM
                              • shroomysoup
                                Sam Bradford is a future Pro-Bowler
                                by shroomysoup
                                As much as I like Suh, I have a feeling Bradford is going to be a great QB despite the shoulder injury. He could end up being like Peyton Manning except without the laser cannon. He still has a good arm though.

                                I hate this. Can we just draft both Suh and Bradford somehow? :|
                                -12-20-2009, 04:39 PM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                Film Review: Sam Bradford
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                After throwing my back out this weekend, I've had a lot of time to review film of Sam Bradford on YouTube. Here's what I observed:

                                Delivery/Release
                                Bradford has a very quick delivery. He does not have a pure, over-the-top throwing motion and, at times, drops to a 3/4 release point. However, his motion is very compact, and he has no "tell" (i.e. long wind-up, telegraphing direction of throws).

                                Accuracy
                                Definitely his strong suit. He shows the ability to hit receivers in stride, allowing for a lot of YAC. He also shows great touch on fade patterns, and throws to the back of the end zone.

                                Deep Ball
                                I was struck by how few deep throws are represented in Bradford's highlight films. Perhaps this is due, in part, to the style of offense he played in. On the few deep balls I observed, Bradford's spiral was less than perfect, but his accuracy was still very good.

                                Arm Strength
                                As stated, not a lot of strong deep ball evidence to call Bradford a "strong armed" QB. That said, his mid-range (15-25 yard) throws were typically thrown on a rope, even when thrown to the sideline. I'd say he has better arm strenth than, say, Chad Pennington, but he's not going to beat Jay Cutler in a distance contest.

                                Footwork
                                Another strong point. Bradford slides in the pocket very well without getting happy feet. He is also exceptional at squaring his body quickly to avoid throws off the back foot, even when rolling out. He's not fast, and isn't a guy looking to run the ball, but he is a guy who can pick up yards when the pocket breaks down.

                                In sum, I like what I saw. Granted, I was watching highlight films, not game films, but there is no shortage of evidence of strong skills. In terms of overall style and ability, I still look at Bradford as being comparable to Kurt Warner. He has many of the same skills, as well as limitations. Whether he has that extra "it" factor that Kurt had... that I can't tell you from watching highlight films.

                                However, I can conclusively state that he is considerably more impressive than Jimmy Clausen and Tony Pike (both of whom I say play several times this year), and clearly has better overall tools than Dan LeFevour and Colt McCoy (who I also saw quite a bit of last year).

                                In case you are wondering, Suh is still at the top of my draft board. But its closer than ever now.
                                -03-11-2010, 10:13 AM
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