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    "Nobody questions that the top need for the Rams is a quarterback. But unless St. Louis trades down -- an extremely difficult proposition on multiple levels -- it shouldn't take a quarterback with its first pick. Suh is maybe the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen in 32 years of doing this. He can be effective immediately for the Rams"

    I'm not a fan of trading down, and think how many chances does a team get to have a player like this. Get Suh!!!!!! If need be can trade up for J. Lockler if the QB situation isn't solved with other pics or FA.

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    Suh is just too dominant. We can't pass up on his talent. He's going to rule the NFL one day.

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    • #3
      Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

      [QUOTE=turbofargo;328228]"Nobody questions that the top need for the Rams is a quarterback. But unless St. Louis trades down -- an extremely difficult proposition on multiple levels -- it shouldn't take a quarterback with its first pick. Suh is maybe the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen in 32 years of doing this. He can be effective immediately for the Rams"

      How could we even think about taking Clausen when guys like Kiper are talking about the best DT in thirty years.....

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      • #4
        Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

        Suh all the way and either trade back into the 1st or let Bradford or Clausen slide

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        • #5
          Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

          not 1 qqb here is worth taking over Suh and is we pass up on him.. i will be extremely disappointed and will quit watching football.
          Last edited by Nick; -01-20-2010, 05:16 PM. Reason: Watch the language

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          • #6
            Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

            this guy bashed us last year for taking smith over a qb when we needed one, so i guess it shows what he thinks of suh. too good to pass up, imo.

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            • #7
              Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

              This is how I see it.

              Clausen and Bradford are both very good QB's in their own right. They could both very well be future Pro Bowlers.

              But, Ndamukong Suh is just out of their league.


              It is almost a proven fact that a franchise QB helps immensely with bringing a team to the playoffs/Superbowl. A superstar DT can't even do that.

              But, this team is very short on talent, and we need to stock up on talent. And Ndamukong Suh is loaded, LOADED with talent and spilling with potential.

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              • #8
                Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                First Pick - Suh
                33rd Pick - Spoon
                65th Pick - LeFevour

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                • #9
                  Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                  We should not pass up on suh no way! Let's get a stop gap QB in FA that can manage the game and just stack up on talent in the draft! I dont' like debating this so far away from the draft but that just makes the most sense financially and long term for our franchise which is what FO will do...

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                  • #10
                    Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                    Heck, Suh can catch passes better than some of St. Louis' receivers.

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                    • #11
                      Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                      Originally posted by Mooselini
                      Suh is just too dominant. We can't pass up on his talent. He's going to rule the NFL one day.
                      Yes he is weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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                      • #12
                        Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                        QB's with potential come out every draft. There hasn't ever been a DT like Suh in most of our lifetimes.

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                        • #13
                          Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                          Originally posted by md8
                          QB's with potential come out every draft. There hasn't ever been a DT like Suh in most of our lifetimes.
                          Well .. that's certainly a ringing endorsement for Suh. And it may prove to be true one day. However, he'll have to earn his kudos on the NFL field of play. Until he does, he's just another talented rookie. That said, I hope and pray that we don't mess around - he's ours if DeSpags want him, and if Spags learned anything from Andy Reid, it's that you build championship teams starting with the lines - both on O & D.

                          I really won't care who our QB is in 2010 if Billy and Spags can greatly improve our team in FA and the upcoming draft, and Suh is where they should start. An analogy comes to mind: When I was a kid and finally reached the age where my Dad thought it time I learned how to drive, he drove us far out into an abandoned beanfield. Having explained how to work the clutch and gearshift, he exited the car and I was on my own. My instructions were to complete a large circle and come to a stop, then repeat the process going through the gears each time, over and over again. Suffice it to say, that he made the right decision in getting out of the car, being wise enough to know that whatever he said, I'd still have to experience the challenges first hand and deal with them. Dad stood well out of harms way, arms folded across his chest and observed my efforts, no doubt sparing his nerves a good deal in the bargain. The one advantage I had, was that I was driving a late model car in perfect running condition with excellent brakes, a well tuned engine, new tires etc. Therefore I wasn't destracted with worries about mechanical failures which might have resulted in bodily harm, rather I was able to focus on the task at hand - a formidable task at the time. Clutch- gas- shifting - brakes - clutch in when braking to a halt - stuff we all can do in our sleep now, but tough for a rookie ...

                          Right now the vehicle that is our team, needs some new parts, a new and functional spare tire, and a big time tune up before we turn over the keys to a rookie ... IMO anyway ..

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                            Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                            Originally posted by MauiRam
                            Right now the vehicle that is our team, needs some new parts, a new and functional spare tire, and a big time tune up before we turn over the keys to a rookie ... IMO anyway ..
                            That's a darn good analogy, one i would have to agree with as well. Im not concerned about the grind for the new franchise QB, there are plenty guys that could come in and do a serviceable job in the meantime. Guys here dont expect the team to be competitive this coming season, and yet, we're all trying to rush getting resources together. You want to rebuild a team RIGHT the first time. Not do it sloppy and risk years of set back

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                            • #15
                              Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                              I think we get a good offseason here, and then next year load up on offseason as well and we will be back in no time.

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                              • Varg6
                                Suh Not the No. 1 Pick?
                                by Varg6
                                Per ESPN Insider,

                                ESPN Insider's KC Joyner evaluated Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and writes, "It is said that this is one of the deepest defensive line drafts in NFL history and the metrics say Suh is head and shoulders above his positional competition. He should be the No. 1 pick in the draft."

                                But here's where the problem comes in: the St. Louis Rams pick first -- this tweet from NFL Insider Adam Schefter gives us the Top 10 -- and rumors have been building that they will be taking a QB with that No. 1 pick. The NFL is the League of Quarterbacks, after all, not the League of Defensive Tackles.

                                If that happens, the Detriot Lions and their fans would be ecstatic, as they would love to see Suh in Motown.
                                ---------

                                Quite frankly, I'd be upset if this happens. Unless Sam Bradford/Clausen show that they ARE the future of this organization and is worth the 1st pick of the draft, we have to pick the best player available.

                                Honestly, I'd be shocked if we don't pick Suh but you never know. What scares me the most is screwing up landing a high caliber player like Suh.
                                -01-04-2010, 04:39 PM
                              • C-Mob 71
                                Locker Staying in School
                                by C-Mob 71
                                Just heard on ESPN that Locker will not enter the NFL Draft.

                                Personally I'm not too devastated by this (Suh all the way), though it does weaken the top of the QB class, therefore reducing our chances to grab a quality QB in the second.
                                -12-14-2009, 12:32 PM
                              • peramoure
                                No Suh for you!
                                by peramoure
                                I've been doing some thinking, and I don't think I can go through another season with an average or late round quarterback as out future.

                                Suh is ***THE*** most coveted player in the draft. We control his fate, and we get what want in whatever trade there is. Everyone in the league would love to have him, but Suh as a DT cannot make the same impact as a franchise, Manning/Brady/Breesesque QB.

                                TRADE DOWN! Even if only a few spots, we still get Bradford or Clausen, we pull off a Chargers/Giants type trade and get all sorts of picks to fill ALL the holes we have.

                                PASS ON SUH! TRADE DOWN!
                                -12-23-2009, 02:18 PM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                If the Rams stay at pick #1, there are really only 4 candidates.
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                If the Rams don't trade down from the first pick in the draft, their choice really comes down to four players.

                                The Frontrunner: Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
                                I call Suh the frontrunner because he is the player that most people consider the best prospect in the draft. While I obviously don't have any inside information from the Rams, I certainly can see a coach like Steve Spagnuolo, who built a champion defense on the strength of the D line, favoring Suh.

                                The Dark-Horse Candidate: Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
                                While he is currently overshadowed by Suh, he is still considered a top 3-5 pick. If Suh slides during the evaluation period, while McCoy shines, he could rise to the top.

                                The Cult Favorite: Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
                                Those who like Clausen really like him. In my opinion, his size is potentially an issue, and I'll be curious how he is reported as comporting himself in interviews. That said... QBs can rise quickly in the eyes of scouts, coaches and personnel guys. Just ask Mark Sanchez.

                                The Forgotten Candidate: Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
                                Bradford may have been the first pick in the 2009 draft had he come out. Now he stands as the poster child for those who advocate early departures from college. Still, if he passes all the tests he'll be put through in the next few months, teams could fall in love again with his 2008 game tapes.

                                There are other top prospects who I really don't think the Rams would take No. 1 overall. I have Derrick Morgan rated #2 on my draft board, but I really don't see the Rams passing on Suh (or McCoy) to take him. Eric Berry and Joe Haden are A list DBs who will both go in the top 10 selections, but again, not to the Rams at No. 1. The Rams may like C.J. Spiller (as do I), but they can't afford to take a RB at No. 1 unless they trade Jackson, which isn't likely to happen. Finally, Dez Bryant, though a top WR prospect, does not appear to be a guy who would go that high.

                                So, in my book... its one of these four players or a trade down (which I don't expect to happen).

                                Anyone think there are more than four candidates?
                                -01-18-2010, 03:45 PM
                              • smitheRAM
                                Second quess
                                by smitheRAM
                                So we picked Bradford, but what if we could of picked Suh and now Clausen. Would you have rather done have them?
                                -04-22-2010, 08:00 PM
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