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    "Nobody questions that the top need for the Rams is a quarterback. But unless St. Louis trades down -- an extremely difficult proposition on multiple levels -- it shouldn't take a quarterback with its first pick. Suh is maybe the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen in 32 years of doing this. He can be effective immediately for the Rams"

    I'm not a fan of trading down, and think how many chances does a team get to have a player like this. Get Suh!!!!!! If need be can trade up for J. Lockler if the QB situation isn't solved with other pics or FA.

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    Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

    Suh is just too dominant. We can't pass up on his talent. He's going to rule the NFL one day.

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    • #3
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      [QUOTE=turbofargo;328228]"Nobody questions that the top need for the Rams is a quarterback. But unless St. Louis trades down -- an extremely difficult proposition on multiple levels -- it shouldn't take a quarterback with its first pick. Suh is maybe the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen in 32 years of doing this. He can be effective immediately for the Rams"

      How could we even think about taking Clausen when guys like Kiper are talking about the best DT in thirty years.....

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      • #4
        Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

        Suh all the way and either trade back into the 1st or let Bradford or Clausen slide

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        • #5
          Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

          not 1 qqb here is worth taking over Suh and is we pass up on him.. i will be extremely disappointed and will quit watching football.
          Nick
          Rams Nation MVP
          Last edited by Nick; -01-20-2010, 06:16 PM. Reason: Watch the language

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          • #6
            Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

            this guy bashed us last year for taking smith over a qb when we needed one, so i guess it shows what he thinks of suh. too good to pass up, imo.

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            • #7
              Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

              This is how I see it.

              Clausen and Bradford are both very good QB's in their own right. They could both very well be future Pro Bowlers.

              But, Ndamukong Suh is just out of their league.


              It is almost a proven fact that a franchise QB helps immensely with bringing a team to the playoffs/Superbowl. A superstar DT can't even do that.

              But, this team is very short on talent, and we need to stock up on talent. And Ndamukong Suh is loaded, LOADED with talent and spilling with potential.

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              • #8
                Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                First Pick - Suh
                33rd Pick - Spoon
                65th Pick - LeFevour

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                • #9
                  Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                  We should not pass up on suh no way! Let's get a stop gap QB in FA that can manage the game and just stack up on talent in the draft! I dont' like debating this so far away from the draft but that just makes the most sense financially and long term for our franchise which is what FO will do...

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                  • #10
                    Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                    Heck, Suh can catch passes better than some of St. Louis' receivers.

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                    • #11
                      Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                      Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
                      Suh is just too dominant. We can't pass up on his talent. He's going to rule the NFL one day.
                      Yes he is weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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                      • #12
                        Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                        QB's with potential come out every draft. There hasn't ever been a DT like Suh in most of our lifetimes.

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                        • #13
                          Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                          Originally posted by md8 View Post
                          QB's with potential come out every draft. There hasn't ever been a DT like Suh in most of our lifetimes.
                          Well .. that's certainly a ringing endorsement for Suh. And it may prove to be true one day. However, he'll have to earn his kudos on the NFL field of play. Until he does, he's just another talented rookie. That said, I hope and pray that we don't mess around - he's ours if DeSpags want him, and if Spags learned anything from Andy Reid, it's that you build championship teams starting with the lines - both on O & D.

                          I really won't care who our QB is in 2010 if Billy and Spags can greatly improve our team in FA and the upcoming draft, and Suh is where they should start. An analogy comes to mind: When I was a kid and finally reached the age where my Dad thought it time I learned how to drive, he drove us far out into an abandoned beanfield. Having explained how to work the clutch and gearshift, he exited the car and I was on my own. My instructions were to complete a large circle and come to a stop, then repeat the process going through the gears each time, over and over again. Suffice it to say, that he made the right decision in getting out of the car, being wise enough to know that whatever he said, I'd still have to experience the challenges first hand and deal with them. Dad stood well out of harms way, arms folded across his chest and observed my efforts, no doubt sparing his nerves a good deal in the bargain. The one advantage I had, was that I was driving a late model car in perfect running condition with excellent brakes, a well tuned engine, new tires etc. Therefore I wasn't destracted with worries about mechanical failures which might have resulted in bodily harm, rather I was able to focus on the task at hand - a formidable task at the time. Clutch- gas- shifting - brakes - clutch in when braking to a halt - stuff we all can do in our sleep now, but tough for a rookie ...

                          Right now the vehicle that is our team, needs some new parts, a new and functional spare tire, and a big time tune up before we turn over the keys to a rookie ... IMO anyway ..

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                            Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                            Originally posted by MauiRam View Post
                            Right now the vehicle that is our team, needs some new parts, a new and functional spare tire, and a big time tune up before we turn over the keys to a rookie ... IMO anyway ..
                            That's a darn good analogy, one i would have to agree with as well. Im not concerned about the grind for the new franchise QB, there are plenty guys that could come in and do a serviceable job in the meantime. Guys here dont expect the team to be competitive this coming season, and yet, we're all trying to rush getting resources together. You want to rebuild a team RIGHT the first time. Not do it sloppy and risk years of set back

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                            • #15
                              Re: From Mel Kiper over at ESPN

                              I think we get a good offseason here, and then next year load up on offseason as well and we will be back in no time.

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                              • Varg6
                                Suh Not the No. 1 Pick?
                                Varg6
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                                by Varg6
                                Per ESPN Insider,

                                ESPN Insider's KC Joyner evaluated Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and writes, "It is said that this is one of the deepest defensive line drafts in NFL history and the metrics say Suh is head and shoulders above his positional competition. He should be the No. 1 pick in the draft."

                                But here's where the problem comes in: the St. Louis Rams pick first -- this tweet from NFL Insider Adam Schefter gives us the Top 10 -- and rumors have been building that they will be taking a QB with that No. 1 pick. The NFL is the League of Quarterbacks, after all, not the League of Defensive Tackles.

                                If that happens, the Detriot Lions and their fans would be ecstatic, as they would love to see Suh in Motown.
                                ---------

                                Quite frankly, I'd be upset if this happens. Unless Sam Bradford/Clausen show that they ARE the future of this organization and is worth the 1st pick of the draft, we have to pick the best player available.

                                Honestly, I'd be shocked if we don't pick Suh but you never know. What scares me the most is screwing up landing a high caliber player like Suh.
                                -01-04-2010, 05:39 PM
                              • peramoure
                                No Suh for you!
                                peramoure
                                Registered User
                                by peramoure
                                I've been doing some thinking, and I don't think I can go through another season with an average or late round quarterback as out future.

                                Suh is ***THE*** most coveted player in the draft. We control his fate, and we get what want in whatever trade there is. Everyone in the league would love to have him, but Suh as a DT cannot make the same impact as a franchise, Manning/Brady/Breesesque QB.

                                TRADE DOWN! Even if only a few spots, we still get Bradford or Clausen, we pull off a Chargers/Giants type trade and get all sorts of picks to fill ALL the holes we have.

                                PASS ON SUH! TRADE DOWN!
                                -12-23-2009, 03:18 PM
                              • RamFan_Til_I_Die
                                Why Draft "Experts" Annoy Me
                                RamFan_Til_I_Die
                                Registered User
                                by RamFan_Til_I_Die
                                I can't be the only one that gets annoyed by all these so called draft "experts" that change there mind like r8rh8rmike changes his underwear...about once a week. I'm going to use SI's main mock "expert" as an example. Not becuase he's the best, but because his past mocks are easy to find. H3e's just an example of what annoys me.

                                Don Banks 2010 NFL Mock Drafts thusfar:

                                Suh is a rock solid concensus as the surest thing. Sounds great, right?

                                So roughly a month later, the day before the DT's do anything at the combine, the rock solid concensus is now split 50/50 and McCoy is our choice. Um ok. Nothing changed so why did his opinion?

                                So because of one quote from Devaney, who is only making picks to save his job, we're now taking a QB in Stafford. Yeah ok, whatever you say Donny boy.

                                Again implying they'll pick to stay employed rather than to make the pick that helps the team the most, while also covering his backside in case they don't pick Bradford. Pretty typical "expert" BS.

                                Bradford had a good pro day so now it's a sure thing. OK now at this point I can see someone switching to Bradford as a possibility, but before no way. It just makes no sense. But even still what happened to Suh the "rock solid concensus as the surest thing.?"

                                WOW. We sure did a 180 in two and a half months didn't we. First Suh is the "rock solid concensus as the surest thing" and now to take anyone but Bradford is "the kind of stunning turn of events we haven't seen in years."

                                This is just one example of what annoys me about these "experts." McShay has flopped from Suh to Bradford also, while Kiper has flipped from Suh being "the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen in 32 years of doing this." to Clausen. It seems like they build up and exaggerate the plus side of whoever they want. For the longest time all we heard was Suh is a lock to go #1 to the Rams, and now it's a QB. Yes I know Blger is now gone, but these guys flopped to QBs while he was still here. Is it anything more than hype and these draft guys feeding off of each other that made Suh go from the guaranteed pick to now being the #2 DT behind McCoy in many people's eyes? I just don't get it. These guys annoy the crap out of me....
                                -04-17-2010, 10:26 PM
                              • turbofargo
                                McShay picking Suh for Rams for less money
                                turbofargo
                                Registered User
                                by turbofargo
                                Just heard a espn podcast where Todd McShay was given an either/or senerio, Bradford for 50 million or Suh for 30 million and he said as much as he liked Bradford he thinks that would be a killer deal for the Rams to get Suh with all the holes we have and enough doubt about Bradford to warrant it.
                                -03-27-2010, 06:19 AM
                              • ramhard
                                Suh interview on ESPN up on website
                                ramhard
                                Registered User
                                by ramhard
                                ESPN interviewed Suh and have it up on their website... not sure if this has been posted. Nice interview, poised and impressive guy.


                                Ndamukong Suh On Future In The NFL - ESPN Video - ESPN
                                -01-21-2010, 10:10 AM
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