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  • My Mock Offseason

    Let me know what you think, if this is possible, etc.

    Resign:

    - James Hall, DE (cheap, good rotational guy)
    - Gary Gibson, DT (good depth, cheap)
    - Clifton Ryan, DT (good DT, developing)
    - OJ Atogwe, FS (ballhawk in the secondary, one of our better D players)
    - Mark Setterstrom, OG (Decent backup on the OL)
    - Daniel Fells, TE (showed some flashes, looks like a good back-up)

    Cut:
    - Alex Barron, LT (bust, will want LT money, hurts the team with drive killing mental mistakes)
    - Leonard Little, DE (older, will want starting DE money, time to move on)
    - Randy McMichael, TE (not a good TE anymore)
    - Marc Bulger, QB (he's old, expensive and can't be relied on anymore)

    Free Agents:
    - Leon Washington, RB (good change of pace back, explosive, good in the return game, will come cheeper because of injury)
    - Tony Scheffler, TE (balanced TE who has excellent hands and decent blocking skills, feud with McDaniels will make him available from the Broncos)
    - Chad Pennington, QB (he's a one year stop gap to groom whatever QB we draft in the later rounds this year, he'll be cheap coming off surgery and should still have enough of a noodle arm to work in our west coast offense)
    - David Baas, OG (Big, run blocking RG to replace Richie)
    - Adam Terry, OT (Mammoth OT who will provide good depth/spot starting)
    - Thomas Howard, OLB (Great cover LB, will be dropped by the Raiders as a scapegoat for their struggles in stopping the run)
    - Derrick Johnson, MLB (I'm suggesting we move him to OLB where he dominated in college, I believe he's being misused right now)
    - Richard Marshall, CB (physical corner who supports the run, a traditional Spags guy)

    Draft:

    1.01- Ndamukong Suh, DT (Beast, BPA, Position of Need)
    2.01- Demaryius Thomas, WR (Ideal size, good speed and hands, WAS the Georgia Tech passing game)
    3.01- Greg Hardy, DE (Good size and speed, a solid pass rusher to work opposite Chris Long)
    4.01- Ciron Black, OT (Drops because he's not projected as a LT despite playing it all through college, dominant run blocker and instant RT starter)
    5.01- Dan LeFevour, QB (He's got a good chance to succeed at a cheap price, throw him in there and see if he can make something happen, if not, Jake Locker next year)

    2010 St. Louis Rams Depth Chart:

    QB- Chad Pennington, Dan LeFevour, Keith Null
    RB- Steven Jackson, Leon Washington, Chris Ogbonnaya
    FB- Mike Karney
    WR- Laurent Robinson, Donnie Avery, Demaryius Thomas, Brandon Gibson, Danny Amendola
    TE- Tony Scheffler, Daniel Fells, Billy Bajema
    LT- Jason Smith, Adam Terry, Adam Goldburg
    LB- Jacob Bell, Mark Setterstrom, Roger Allen III
    C- Jason Brown, Mark Setterstrom
    RG- David Baas, John Greco, Mark Setterstrom
    RT- Ciron Black, Adam Goldburg, Adam Terry

    LE- Greg Hardy, James Hall, CJ Ah You
    DT- Clifton Ryan, Ndamukong Suh, Gary Gibson, Darell Scott
    RE- Chris Long, Adam Carricker, CJ Ah You
    WLB- Thomas Howard, Chris Chamberlain, KC Asiodu
    MLB- James Laurinaitis, David Vobora, Chris Chamberlain
    SLB- Derrick Johnson, Larry Grant, David Vobora
    CB- Ron Bartell, Richard Marshall, Bradley Fletcher, Quincy Butler, Justin King
    SS- James Butler, Clinton Hart
    FS- OJ Atogwe, Craig Dahl

    KR- Leon Washington, Danny Amendola
    Punt R- Leon Washington
    Last edited by rams_man13; -01-25-2010, 11:46 PM.

  • #2
    Re: My Mock Offseason

    I like the resigns.

    I love the free agency but honestly don't think we will be able to target and sign 7 players.

    While not similar to my mock draft I wouldn't be unhappy with your picks. I like all of the players you picked but my only problem is with your expectations.

    My rough rule of thumb....

    Quarterbacks taken in the 1st round still need a year to develop under someone. Yes there have been exceptions but you can't bank on exceptions.

    Quarterbacks taken in the later rounds take years to develop. LeFevour may turn out to be a great quarterback but odds are we wouldn't see him shine for 2 to 4 seasons.

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    • #3
      Re: My Mock Offseason

      Yeah that was pretty much what I was going to say. It would be a steal if he lasted until the 5th. But what if he didn't? what if the team at the bottom of the 4th picked him right before the Rams pick? Bulger has already been cut, so we'd be going into the season with Null as the starter. And how would starting LeFevour be any better than Null (for next year)? And no vet to help mentor them?

      Sorry if that sounds critical, I do like the mock. Especially Thomas at 2, I'm really hoping for that. I think all of the above problems would be solved by keeping Bulger around or picking up a stopgap QB.

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      • #4
        I'm going to edit my post, I do agree with you guys about a veteran QB, but I don't think we keep Bulger at what he's currently making. I could be wrong but I believe that this is the first year that we actually save cap space by cutting him.

        Originally posted by Rambunctious View Post

        I love the free agency but honestly don't think we will be able to target and sign 7 players.
        I don't see why we can't grab these guys. It's not like I stacked that section with Brandon Marshall, Julius Peppers and Vincent Jackson, I think all those guys are likely to not get re-signed (for various reasons) and would look good and fit into the Horns.

        I think the biggest "maybe" with respect to availability in that group will be Richard Marshall, and that depends on what the Panthers do about Matt Moore, Thomas Davis and Julius Peppers who should all be expecting big pay days.

        Originally posted by AtlantaRamFan View Post
        Yeah that was pretty much what I was going to say. It would be a steal if he lasted until the 5th. But what if he didn't? what if the team at the bottom of the 4th picked him right before the Rams pick? Bulger has already been cut, so we'd be going into the season with Null as the starter. And how would starting LeFevour be any better than Null (for next year)? And no vet to help mentor them?

        Sorry if that sounds critical, I do like the mock. Especially Thomas at 2, I'm really hoping for that. I think all of the above problems would be solved by keeping Bulger around or picking up a stopgap QB.
        I think Thomas is going to make a great WR1 in this league, he just looks so impressive in an offense that has very little room for a passing game. I expect him at WR1 the year after next, Robinson at WR2 and Avery using his speed in the slot to give us a great group of WR's.
        Last edited by Nick; -01-21-2010, 11:59 AM.

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        • #5
          Re: My Mock Offseason

          I like it but we definitely need another QB so either keeping Bulger or signing a free agent QB would be best. Otherwise, great job.
          Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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          • #6
            Re: My Mock Offseason

            Originally posted by rams_man13
            I don't see why we can't grab these guys. It's not like I stacked that section with Brandon Marshall, Julius Peppers and Vincent Jackson, I think all those guys are likely to not get re-signed (for various reasons) and would look good and fit into the Horns.

            I think the biggest "maybe" with respect to availability in that group will be Richard Marshall, and that depends on what the Panthers do about Matt Moore, Thomas Davis and Julius Peppers who should all be expecting big pay days.

            I hope your right.

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            • #7
              Re: My Mock Offseason

              Good job Rams man13, but I see Hardy, Black and LeFevour all being taken one round ahead of where you are projecting them.

              However, stranger things than that occur every year, so I certainly hopethat you are right!!

              WHAT SAY YE?

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              • #8
                Re: My Mock Offseason

                2.01- Demaryius Thomas, WR
                3.01- Greg Hardy, DE
                4.01- Ciron Black, OT
                5.01- Dan LeFevour, QB
                I applaud the effort, but I doubt any of these guys are available at those spots.
                The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                • #9
                  Re: My Mock Offseason

                  Originally posted by HUbison View Post
                  I applaud the effort, but I doubt any of these guys are available at those spots.

                  Fair enough, these issues always come up as to what ranking site to use for who will be available. I'll site my source here: NFLDraftScout.com

                  I used the "Projected Round"
                  Last edited by Nick; -01-21-2010, 01:23 PM. Reason: Read the rules please, no links!

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                  • #10
                    Re: My Mock Offseason

                    Who's Kirk Morrison, and where did Thomas Howard go?

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                    • #11
                      Re: My Mock Offseason

                      Originally posted by RockinRam View Post
                      Who's Kirk Morrison, and where did Thomas Howard go?
                      Kirk Morrison is the current starting MLB for the Raiders, and he will be resigned. I'm guessing he was a typo for Thomas Howard.

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                      • #12
                        Re: My Mock Offseason

                        Originally posted by sakl18 View Post
                        Kirk Morrison is the current starting MLB for the Raiders, and he will be resigned. I'm guessing he was a typo for Thomas Howard.

                        Yes indeed, sorry, that is my fault.

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                        • sakl18
                          Sakl18's Mock Offseason
                          by sakl18
                          Here is my mock offseason. Let me know what you think, and don't be afraid to tear me apart.


                          Re-sign
                          • Anyone who isn't in the release column
                          Release
                          • Leonard Little - If he is willing to stay for cheap, then we re-sign him. If not, see ya.
                          • Marc Bulger - His days as a Ram are over, it's time to move on.
                          • Randy McMichael - No longer the tight end he once was.
                          • Alex Barron - His drive killing penalty spree comes to an end.
                          • Kyle Boller - Showed us just why he's no longer a Raven.
                          Free Agent Signings
                          • Jason Campbell, QB - Take a chance on him. If all else fails, he's a stop-gap QB.
                          • Tony Scheffler, TE - A good blocking and receiving TE.
                          • David Baas, OG - A powerful run blocker who can open up holes at the RG position.
                          • Leon Washington, RB - A good relief and change of pace back for Steven Jackson.
                          • Ray Edwards, LE - Played very well in Minnesota, albeit with Allen and the Williams'.
                          Draft Picks
                          • 1) Ndamukong Suh*, DT - Self explanatory.
                          • 2) Sean Weatherspoon, WLB - A fast, sure tackling linebacker who would provide a major upgrade over Paris Lenon.
                          • 3) Jared Veldheer, OT - A monstrous tackle with surprising agility who projects as a solid RT.
                          • 4) Dan LeFevour, QB - Has a good arm and great mobility.
                          2010 Depth Chart


                          QB - Jason Campbell, Keith Null, Dan LeFevour
                          RB - Steven Jackson, Leon Washington, Kenneth Darby, Chris Ogbonnaya
                          FB - Mike Karney
                          WR - Laurent Robinson, Donnie Avery, Brandon Gibson, Danny Amendola, Keenan Burton
                          TE - Tony Scheffler, Daniel Fells, Billy Bajema
                          LT - Jason Smith, Adam Goldburg, Eric Young
                          LG - Jacob Bell, Mark Setterstrom, Roger Allen III
                          C - Jason Brown, Mark Setterstrom, Drew Miller
                          RG - David Baas, John Greco, Mark Setterstrom
                          RT - Adam Goldburg, Jared Veldheer, Phil Trautwein
                          LE - Ray Edwards, Victor Adeyanju, James Wyche
                          DT - Ndamukong Suh, Cliffton Ryan, Adam Carriker, LaJaun Ramsey, Darrell Scott
                          RE - Chris Long, James Hall, Sean Conover
                          SLB - David Vobora, Larry Grant, Chris Chamberlain
                          MLB - James Laurinaitis, Chris Chamberlain, Dominic Douglas
                          WLB - Sean Weatherspoon, Paris Lenon, Chris Chamberlain
                          CB - Ron Bartell, Bradley Fletcher, Quincey Butler, Justin King, Jonathan Wade
                          FS - OJ Atogwe, Craig Dahl
                          SS - James Butler, Clinton Hart
                          K - Josh Brown
                          P - Donnie Jones
                          KR/PR - Leon Washington, Danny Amendola

                          *Some of you may have seen me arguing for taking Clausen first overall, however, that is only if we don't sign a QB in free agency.
                          -01-22-2010, 03:44 PM
                        • Bald_81
                          Bald_81's Mock Offseason V1
                          by Bald_81
                          Re-Signings

                          FS OJ Atogwe
                          NT Clifton Ryan
                          OL Mark Setterstrom
                          LS Chris Massey
                          DE Leonard Little*
                          DE C.J. Ah You

                          Cuts

                          OT Alex Barron
                          TE Randy McMichael
                          QB Marc Bulger

                          Walks

                          QB Kyle Boller
                          DT Gary Gibson
                          WR Ruvell Martin
                          SS Clinton Hart
                          RB Samkon Gado
                          RB Kenneth Darby
                          DE James Hall
                          LB Paris Lenon
                          DE Victor Adeyanju

                          Free Agency

                          QB Chad Pennington
                          - Notes: A veteran QB who will be available due to Chad Henne's success in South Beach. Chad will be a great bridge QB for the Rams and could provide a similar spark/impact on offense as he did for Miami in '08.

                          RB Leon Washington
                          - Notes: With the emergence of rookie Shonn Greene, there is a crowded backfield with only so many carries to go around. Leon would be a great change of pace back for Steven who possesses a similar talent in the receiving game making him more dangerous.

                          OT Tyson Clabo
                          - Notes: With the departure of Alex Barron and Jason Smith shifting over to the left side, there is a need for a RT. Tyson Clabo has done a great job keeping Matt Ryan off his back in Atlanta and would help solidify our line.

                          DE Ray Edwards
                          - Notes: Although he plays with what might be the best supporting cast in the NFL (Jared Allen, Pat & Kevin Williams), Ray Edwards is a young player who has gotten better with each passing season. He would help add to the young nucleus that Devaney is trying to build on as well as give Spags a new toy to play with.

                          LB Omar Gaither
                          - Notes: He was with Spags for one season in Philadelphia, but he possesses the versatility to play different linebacker positions. Besides Laurinaitis, our LB core has a lot of issues and Gaither will be a solid addition.

                          LB Danny Clark
                          - Notes: A jack-of-all-trades who can play all three linebacker spots, he essentially replaces Paris Lenon as the veteran of this group but more importantly provides depth at each position.

                          CB Richard Marshall
                          - Notes: A tough, physical corner who fits the mold of what Spags wants. Marshall is very young and entering the prime of his career which is exactly what the Rams want and he also fills a position of need.

                          NFL Draft

                          Round 1: Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
                          - Notes: Taking a QB first overall would be a slam dunk here if there was a franchise type available, alas, the Rams don't exactly have the best luck. However, they are blessed to find one of the best defensive prospects of the decade. Suh not only addresses an area of need, but he makes the rest of the defense better and could help catapult Chris Long into double-digit sacks in 2010.

                          Round 2: Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma.
                          - Notes: Playmakers, playmakers, playmakers. Is that what you want Billy? Look no further than...
                          -01-10-2010, 04:04 AM
                        • sakl18
                          Sakl18's Mock Offseason 2.0
                          by sakl18
                          Release/Let Walk
                          • Alex Barron, LT - His spree of drive killing penalties comes to an end.
                          • Kyle Boller, QB - Showed us just why he's no longer a Raven.
                          • Randy McMichael, TE - Hasn't played at the level he did in Miami.
                          • Leonard Little, LE - If he's willing to stay for a small contract he gets re-signed, otherwise he goes.
                          • Marc Bulger, QB - His days as a Ram are over, as both parties need a fresh start.
                          • Samkon Gado, RB - Really struggled this season and an upgrade is needed.
                          • Kenneth Darby, RB - Another backup RB who was innefective.

                          Resign
                          • Anyone who isn't being let loose.

                          Free Agents
                          • Jason Campbell, QB, Washington - He still has potential and needs a fresh start. If all else fails, he's a stop gap QB.
                          • Ray Edwards, LE, Minnesota - A solid DE who would immediately help with our pass rush woes.
                          • Jerious Norwood, RB, Atlanta - A speed back who would be a great change of pace for Jackson, and would also lessen his work load.

                          Draft
                          • 1) Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska - Need I say more?
                          • 2) Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri - A fast sideline to sideline 'backer who wold start immediately. Also has great leadership skills.
                          • 3) Dan LeFevour, QB, Central Michigan - Has a good arm and great mobility. Will take a few years to transition game to the NFL level, but has great potential.
                          • 4) Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale - A massive tackle with surprising agility for his size. Would start immediately at RT.
                          • 5A) Jimmy Graham, TE, Miami - Converted basketball player who has great height and quickness. Has phenominal upside.
                          • 5B) Joique Bell, RB, Wayne State - A back who's both shifty and physical, and can catch passes out of the backfield.
                          • 6) Devin Ross, CB, Arizona - Has good potential for a late round pick and will provide depth.
                          • 7A) O'Brien Schoefield, DE, Wisconsin - A great pass rusher who was a projeccted 2nd or 3r round prospect who tore his ACL at a Senior Bowl practice. He may have to be placed on IR for his first year, but he has the potential to be a late round gem.
                          • 7B) Cord Howard, OG, Georgia Tech - Will provide depth at the guard position.

                          2010 Depth Chart

                          QB - Jason Campbell, Keith Null, Dan LeFevour
                          RB - Steven Jackson, Jerious Norwood, Joique Bell, Chris Ogbonnaya
                          FB - Mike Karney
                          WR - Laurent Robinson, Donnie Avery, Brandon Gibson, Danny Amendola, Keenan Burton
                          TE - Daniel Fells, Billy Bajema, Jimmy Graham
                          LT - Jason Smith, Adam Goldberg, Eric Young
                          LG - Jacob Bell, Mark Setterstrom, Roger Allen III
                          C - Jason Brown, Mark Setterstrom, Drew Miller
                          RG -Adam Goldberg, John Greco, Mark Setterstrom
                          RT - Jared Veldheer, Adam Goldburg, Phil Trautwein

                          LE - Ray Edwards, Victor Adeyanju, James Wyche
                          UT - Cliffton Ryan, Adam Carriker, Darrell Scott
                          NT - Ndamukong Suh, Cliffton Ryan, LaJaun Ramsey
                          RE - Chris Long, James Hall, Sean Conover
                          SLB - David Vobora, Larry Grant, Chris Chamberlain
                          MLB -...
                          -01-28-2010, 04:25 PM
                        • sakl18
                          Sakl18's Post-Combine Mock Offseason
                          by sakl18
                          Cut/Let Walk
                          • Kyle Boller - He should us just why he's no longer a Raven.
                          • Randy McMichael - Never duplicated his production in Miami. A replacement is needed.
                          • Leonard Little - Even if he doesn't retire, we need to move on. His days of a servicable DE are over.
                          • Samkon Gado - Did nothing all year.
                          • Jonathan Wade - Was surpassed by nearly everyone on the depth chart. There's no point in keeping him around, as better depth can be addressed via the draft.
                          Trades
                          • Marc Bulger for Jason Campbell - Campbell can be a productive stop-gap player. Both Bulger and Campbell need new starts, and Campbell still has the potential to be a decent starter.
                          • Alex Barron for Greg Olsen - Olsen brings the abilities of a playmaking TE taht the Rams desperately need.
                          • Rams trade 1.01 and 4.01 to Bucs for 1.03, 2.02, and 3.03.
                          Free Agency
                          • Dunta Robinson, CB, Houston - A physical corner who has a high talent level. His injury history is a concern, but he fits Spags scheme and can be the shutdown corner we have been looking for.
                          Draft
                          • 1.03 - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma - If the Rams believe that Clausen is the better QB, then he is the pick. Bradford fills the Rams biggest hole at QB, and will challenge Campbell for the start from day 1.
                          • 2.01 - Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan - An excellent pass rusher with a great motor. Also has tremendous upside.
                          • 2.03 - Jahvid Best, RB, California - An explosive runner who would be the perfect complement for SJax, keeping him healthy and extending his career by several seasons. Also brings a much needed home run threat to the offense.
                          • 3.01 - Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale - A monster of a tackle with surprising agility. Has the ability to start immediately at right tackle and be a dominant force on the right end for years to come.
                          • 3.03 - Dekoda Watson, OLB, Florida State - An athletic freak with a great work ethic and tremendous upside. Would start opposite David Vobora.
                          • 5.01 - Harry Coleman, SS, LSU - An athletic safety with good size and speed. Plays a phyical game and is effective in coverage.
                          • 5.24 - Danario Alexander, WR, Missouri - A massive receiver with good speed. Will need some time to learn NFL routes, and has an extensive injury history, but is a great redzone target with upside.
                          • 6.01 - David Ross, CB, Arizona - Has a surprising amount of potential for a late round pick. Will provide depth at CB.
                          • 7.01 - Matt McCracken, G, Richmond - Provides depth at the guard position and could be a late round steal.
                          • 7.19 - O'Brien Schoefield, DE, Wisconsin - A great pass rusher who was a projected 2nd or 3rd round prospect who tore his ACL at a Senior Bowl practice. He may have to be placed on IR for his first year, but he has the potential to be a dominant edge rusher.
                          Depth Chart

                          QB - Jason Campbell, Sam Bradford, Keith Null
                          RB - Steven Jackson, Jahvid Best, Kenneth Darby, Chris Ogbonnaya
                          FB - Mike Karney
                          WR - Laurent Robinson, Donnie Avery, Brandon Gibson, Danny Amendola, Danario Alexander,...
                          -03-03-2010, 01:17 PM
                        • BarronWade
                          BarronWade's mock off-season
                          by BarronWade
                          So right now we are 0-7 and this is the way i think our off season will go down

                          First: Pat Shurmur is released (finally). Giants RB coach Jerald Ingram fills that spot hopefully he can do something.

                          Second: Bulger reconstructs his contract to keep his job as Rams starter (for now).

                          RE-SIGN:
                          TE Dan Fells about 3-4 yrs.
                          Receiving TE can help if we cannot get a good receiver in the draft. Even if we do Fells is a good 2nd catching TE like Shincoe was in NY.

                          OG/C Richie Incognito about 1-2 yrs
                          At this point we do not need to create a whole at Guard. So we get cogs for the short term and find a suitable starter in the next yr or 2.

                          DE James Hall 1yr
                          I think Little will either retire or spend one more year elsewhere. So we need a veteran leader and Hall has played well for us.

                          DT Cliff Ryan 4-5 yrs
                          Give me 1 reason why we wont re-sign our best DT that is only 25 right now.

                          DB John Wade 1 yr
                          He is a restricted free agent so we will obviously tender him if someone else wants him they give us a 1st rounder. or 3rd depending on how much we tender him.

                          S Craig Dahl 2-3 yrs
                          pleasant surprise for us.

                          OJ Atogwe 2 yrs
                          I think if we cannot re-sign him we will just put the franchise on him then he will negotiate a deal for about 2 yrs and see the direction of the team.

                          Key Depatures:
                          DE Leonard Little (see james hall)
                          OG Jacob Bell (i dont see him reconstructing his deal which will get him cut)
                          TE Randy McMicheal (good riddance)
                          OT Alex Barron (penalties aside he is having a good year; i think we low ball him and some team gives him big bucks and a long term deal because of his size and talent. )
                          OLB Paris Lenon (why would we resign an average 32 yr old.
                          QB Kyle Boller (he could not protect the Boll)
                          DE Victor Adeyenju (we kept on keeping him inactive i dont think spags likes him)
                          RB Ken Darby (not as good a blocker as last year)

                          NOTE: For all of you that think we can sign Breaston or Moore: why would young receivers destined for a good future come to the Rams that have QB issues?

                          Key Arrivals:
                          DT Barry Coefield
                          This is a popular one because the G-men have depth on DL and Coefield will start with the Rams. He has conections with Spags.

                          LB Chris Gocong
                          He has connections with spags. He is a big LB. THe eagles just got spoon so they probably wont keep him. Your probably thinking why would he switch to OLB and come to the Rams. This will be the guy we give alot of money/ incentives to. He will be our "major" FA acquisition.

                          WR Dominik Hixon
                          unlike us the Giants have young receivers that are all flourishing and Hixon may be dropped in favor of Smith, Manningham and Nicks. We are in need of WRs and...
                          -10-29-2009, 05:20 PM
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