Sean Weatherspoon?

[BarronWade]

Can we really afford to spend a 2nd rounder on Sean Weatherspoon?

He is a playmaking defender and has the potential to be star in the league (i think he will be a solid player not a pro-bowl star). He is a will linebacker and yes we do have a need at that position.

But my question is with all the other needs on this team can we afford to spend a 2nd rounder on a OLB?

If Suh is our 1st pick should we take Weatherspoon?

The reason for this is because many mocks have Weatherspoon in the 2nd and most of them have Suh then Weatherspoon.

Our biggest need is an Offensive playmaker (not a specific position QB, RB, or WR that can make plays and get TDs.)

IMO i dont think Weatherspoon should be considered because we have too many other needs and Spags Defenses are set up with a strong Line not a strong linebacking core.

[sosa39rams]

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I think that Weatherspoon would be a great addition. He has game changing ability, great speed. very intelligant, and a almost sure tackler. He has all the skills to be in this league. We could have posted this same argument towards last years draft. We had a chance in the 2nd round to get James Laurinaitis and look at what he has become. I think we can spend it on Weatherspoon and we should, its a steal if he drops to the 2nd round.

[Bralidore(RAMMODE)]

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its as simple as this, BPA. If we have Weatherspoon or Graham sitting there at the top of the second...you take them. We can get offensive playmakers in later rounds and in FA. You don't reach for a Colt Mccoy or w/e because we need a QB, you take the best guy there. Id be murderous if both Weatherspoon and Graham was sitting there at the top of the second and we didn't come away with neither of them...

[BarronWade]

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I think that Weatherspoon would be a great addition. He has game changing ability, great speed. very intelligant, and a almost sure tackler. He has all the skills to be in this league. We could have posted this same argument towards last years draft. We had a chance in the 2nd round to get James Laurinaitis and look at what he has become. I think we can spend it on Weatherspoon and we should, its a steal if he drops to the 2nd round.

Im not doubting his skillz i think he will be a solid player. Last year a MLB was our biggest need. A guy to lead our D was very important

But this year we need a way to lengthen offensive drives and get TDs. I mean our D was not horrible like our Offense was.

So how are we suppose to address our our biggest weakness if we keep going for Defensive playmakers?

[sosa39rams]

Re: Sean Weatherspoon?

The reason I would choose him is because there is not an offensive player that is better than he is for the defense at this round(time). In the fourth hoperfully we can get Dexter McCluster.

[BarronWade]

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The reason I would choose him is because there is not an offensive player that is better than he is for the defense at this round(time). In the fourth hoperfully we can get Dexter McCluster.

NO OFFENSIVE PLAYMAKER AT THAT TIME??????

Javid Best has 4.3 40 speed and can catch the ball he is a RB

Damian Williams is a WR reciever that runs clean routes and has good hands

Both of them are Offensive Playmakers that would help the the Rams greatly.

[Bralidore(RAMMODE)]

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They are poor value at the spot where we will be picking. We have plenty of receivers with little experience, adding another wont help. There is no way i would get jahvid best here when i can wait and get dexter mccluster in the next round. You dont pick backups that high unless you have less needs. I would consider mike iupati at that spot if he was there however.

[sosa39rams]

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Thats true, we do not need any more receivers unless they are veterans. Laurent Robinson showed he was capable of being a starting receiver until his injury, and Brandon Gibson, Donnie Avery, Danny Amendola, Brooks Foster, Keenan Burton... all young good receivers.

I am so against all you guys saying we need a playamker at the HB spot... are you serious? Your gonna go ahead and draft a backup in the second round, when i can name you up to 7 positions of need right now.. and you want a backup? I'd rather take Weatherspoon then both of those guys... Our OLB's are horrible (David Vobora, Paris Lenon). His value to this team is much higher then those you named..

[sosa39rams]

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NO OFFENSIVE PLAYMAKER AT THAT TIME??????

Javid Best has 4.3 40 speed and can catch the ball he is a RB

Damian Williams is a WR reciever that runs clean routes and has good hands

Both of them are Offensive Playmakers that would help the the Rams greatly.

I never said there wasn't an offensive playmaker at that time, i said Sean Weatherspoon is more needed on this team than any of the other positions at this time.

[smizzhfx]

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If Jermaine Gresham slipped to the 2nd you'd have to consider him. But bralidore said it best: BPA. I would love to pick up 'SpoonII in the 2nd. He's a playmaker on defense and he really showed he's a solid leader and vocal on the football field.

[BarronWade]

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They are poor value at the spot where we will be picking. We have plenty of receivers with little experience, adding another wont help. There is no way i would get jahvid best here when i can wait and get dexter mccluster in the next round. You dont pick backups that high unless you have less needs. I would consider mike iupati at that spot if he was there however.

Thats true, we do not need any more receivers unless they are veterans. Laurent Robinson showed he was capable of being a starting receiver until his injury, and Brandon Gibson, Donnie Avery, Danny Amendola, Brooks Foster, Keenan Burton... all young good receivers.

I am so against all you guys saying we need a playamker at the HB spot... are you serious? Your gonna go ahead and draft a backup in the second round, when i can name you up to 7 positions of need right now.. and you want a backup? I'd rather take Weatherspoon then both of those guys... Our OLB's are horrible (David Vobora, Paris Lenon). His value to this team is much higher then those you named..

Okay Damian Williams may not be a good value at 33 but Jahvid Best sure. There is also a chance he goes into the 1st if he can do a 4.2 on the 40.

If Dexter McCluster does have character concerns and interviews well he will not last till the 2nd day. With his athleticism and his pro day i think it will be hard for his stock not to shoot up. He performed very well down the stretch and i think he will go in the 2nd. This is a Pat White similar situation. McCluster will flourish in the Wildcat too.

Sosa you said Laurant Robinson showed that he can be a starter B4 his INJURY. You do know that his career has been plagued with injuries so how do we know if he can stay healthy enough for a full season. However i do agree that we have enough young receivers. But you got to admit he has receiver abilities that none of our receivers posses and that is Clean route running and soft reliable hands.

And i am very serious about a HB at the RB position. S-Jax kept pounding it and grinding out yards. We needs someone that can change the pace. Also we can line S-jax and Best up as split backs.

in those "7 positions of need" a 2nd running back is one of them. More and more successful teams are using two backs; their starter then another RB to take the load off. Look at the 2 superbowl teams. Addai has Donald Brown. Pierre Thomas has Reggie Bush and Mike Bell. The 2 teams that almost made it to the superbowl Thomas Jones has Leon Washington and Shonne Greene. AP has Chester Taylor.

One more thing David Vabora was not horrible. he made some nice tackles and his pursuit was pretty good. He is not a star but he should be able to compete for a starting job next year. On the Giants Spags did not have great OLB he made due with mid rounders at the OLB position.

[Bralidore(RAMMODE)]

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i see how your trying to make case for your guys, but its simply not a good idea. Brandon Graham and Weatherspoon are potential first roudners easy and they could fall to you at the top of the second. Weatherspoon is a playmaker, leader, football player at a position of need and would start, you would give that up for a backup running-back with injury concerns (multiple concussions)? You can find all kinds of backup runningbacks to give SJ a break not the least being Mccluster who i said could fall to the top of the third due to his size. Its just a bad move all the way around. Best is not even better than weatherspoon at their respective positions..let alone considering our team needs. Graham or Gresham or the only other ones you could consider unless by some divine miracle Bradford or Clausen falls (some think Clausen is a second rounder).

[sosa39rams]

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Well first off, i'd rather have starters before we load up on 2nd strings. Any player can be injured, don't say we cannot rely on him because he got unlucky once or twice. He is a quality player that deserves a chance no matter how many injuries he has. All those teams u mentioned that have 2 backs, also have quarterbacks. You clearly dont need 2 running backs in the picture to do good. The colts barely use Donald Brown... only when Addai is tired. Chester Taylor only is 3rd down back because AP isn't ready for that. The Jets are a run happy offense, they run probably 65% of the time. Of course your running back is going to get tired a need a break, and with that oline, any back is good. I never doubted David Vobora, but I would rather have Sean Weatherspoon then Paris Lenon.

I don't see the point in getting another quality back when we can easily fill more positions of need and do it the old way. Honestly, 3 years ago, which team used multiple backs? None. All you need is a strong offense that iincludes a few playmakers and no need for players that will be playing one down every drive or so...

[BarronWade]

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i see how your trying to make case for your guys, but its simply not a good idea. Brandon Graham and Weatherspoon are potential first roudners easy and they could fall to you at the top of the second. Weatherspoon is a playmaker, leader, football player at a position of need and would start, you would give that up for a backup running-back with injury concerns (multiple concussions)? You can find all kinds of backup runningbacks to give SJ a break not the least being Mccluster who i said could fall to the top of the third due to his size. Its just a bad move all the way around. Best is not even better than weatherspoon at their respective positions..let alone considering our team needs. Graham or Gresham or the only other ones you could consider unless by some divine miracle Bradford or Clausen falls (some think Clausen is a second rounder).

WOW dude did you see Brandon Graham today i thought he was Suh for a moment he was unblockable. And yes if Gresham falls to #33 its a no doubter pick.

But let me ask you a question thou which squad do you think played better all season the Offense or Defense?

Well first off, i'd rather have starters before we load up on 2nd strings. Any player can be injured, don't say we cannot rely on him because he got unlucky once or twice. He is a quality player that deserves a chance no matter how many injuries he has. All those teams u mentioned that have 2 backs, also have quarterbacks. You clearly dont need 2 running backs in the picture to do good. The colts barely use Donald Brown... only when Addai is tired. Chester Taylor only is 3rd down back because AP isn't ready for that. The Jets are a run happy offense, they run probably 65% of the time. Of course your running back is going to get tired a need a break, and with that oline, any back is good. I never doubted David Vobora, but I would rather have Sean Weatherspoon then Paris Lenon.

I don't see the point in getting another quality back when we can easily fill more positions of need and do it the old way. Honestly, 3 years ago, which team used multiple backs? None. All you need is a strong offense that iincludes a few playmakers and no need for players that will be playing one down every drive or so...

one down or soo who said that. We run a WCO. if we can get a quick hitter to Best he can take off. The Rams can utilize a split back field many times. Or line up in the I and motion Best to the slot and hit him up on a 3yrd out and let him do the work.

Best would open the playbook up for us.

Also i think it would be a good idea to let Vabora play the Will and get more of a pass rusher to play the Sam and put him on more blitz.

[Goldenfleece]

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I've been thinking the same thing about all this Weatherspoon talk. How often do you see a team where a 4-3 weakside linebacker is always coming up with big plays? In a 3-4, the outside linebackers are extremely important because they provide the pass rush. In a 4-3, that's not the case. Most teams run to the strong side of the formation more than the weak side, so the Will linebacker is less likely to be in position to make a play against the run as often. The Sam linebacker is also the one who will be covering the tight end if the play calls for man assignments. Will is either going to be covering a zone or picking up a runningback coming out of the backfield.

Point being that while the weakside linebacker's assignments are important, they often take him out of position to make plays.