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Would anyone be mad if we drafted Rolando Mcclain? He can play SLB. He's a proven leader and in my opinion the best LB in the draft.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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I would be angry if we picked him. He is projected to get in the teens as of right now. There is no way that we would pick him with the #1 overall pick. That's way too high for a linebacker. Even if he was the greatest linebacker to ever play the game, that would mean tying up a large sum of money into our linebacker corps.
That means to get him, we would have to find someone to trade with us. I am not sure if anyone sitting in the teens right now would be willing to give us the huge package that would be required for us to move out of the top ten. We would have to be getting 3-4 top picks in the first three rounds for me to even consider pulling the trigger on some kind of deal like this -
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the problem is everyone that is good will be drafted between our frist and second round picks.
we need a gift where late first round teams draft for need and leave someone on the board for us, just liked JL slipped last year.
Last years draft was deep with WR's and LB"S so one of them had to fall. We just got lucky that someone actually liked Malauga over JL.
This year we need a QB, WR, OLB, or DE to fall if we take SUH.
IF we take a QB pick one that we need a WR, OLB, DE, or DT to fall.
With this years draft being sooo deep, I feel sure we will get a great pick in round 2.
I am focusing on D.Alexander WR because I truly, truly feel that there 90% chance that Sean Weatherspoon doesn't make it that far.Comment
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If the question is just in general, then no, I'm not aware of any huge red flags that would take him off our board altogether. If the question is in relation to the first round, I think Spags would be laughed out of the league if he took McClain when he could have had one of the top defensive tackles or quarterbacks.Originally posted by lostsoul View PostComment
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Since you didn't specify a round (like Goldenfleece said) then no. If he's dropped to the top of the 2nd round pick him. As the idea of picking him in the first is laughable, so for discussion sake I'm assume you meant 2. The Rams have a ton of holes, and he fits a hole, so as long as he's BPA I trust they know what they're doing. That said its highly improbable he'll be there, but you never know..Comment
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I meant in the first round.
In college he was basicly the Peyton Manning of the defense, audibling and telling players where to line up.
Most draft experts rated him around the 5th best player in country.
Maybe its just me but if i could get a great linebacker who could lead the defense with the first pick or a QB who may not even be the best in the Draft let alone a franchise QB I would take a LB no question.
Maybe im just trying to think of something besides DT vs QB just to make things different around here but i think Mcclain will be something special when he comes to the Pro's.
Just tryin to switch things up a bit guys.Last edited by lostsoul; -02-07-2010, 08:35 PM.Comment
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Didn't mean to be too harsh, it's just that linebackers are very rarely taken in the top five. Aaron Curry was taken at #4 last year, but he was widely considered the best defensive player in the draft. Even then, another team passed on him to take a defensive end who fit their scheme. I think many of us are buying into the theory that it all starts in the trenches, and without good linemen, we won't have a good pass rush and our linebackers will get mauled by much larger blockers on run plays.Originally posted by lostsoul View PostI meant in the first round.
In college he was basicly the Peyton Manning of the defense, audibling and telling players where to line up.
Most draft experts rated him around the 5th best player in country.
Maybe its just me but if i could get a great linebacker who could lead the defense with the first pick or a QB who may not even be the best in the Draft let alone a franchise QB I would take a LB no question.
Maybe im just trying to think of something besides DT vs QB just to make things different around here but i think Mcclain will be something special when he comes to the Pro's.
Just tryin to switch things up a bit guys.Comment
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talented dude, but yes i would be mad if we took him with the #1 pick in the draft. i'd rather wait for spoon in the 2nd, if he falls.Comment
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They said the same type of stuff about James Laurinaitis, and he dropped to the top of the second round.Originally posted by lostsoul View PostI meant in the first round.
In college he was basicly the Peyton Manning of the defense, audibling and telling players where to line up.
Most draft experts rated him around the 5th best player in country.
Maybe its just me but if i could get a great linebacker who could lead the defense with the first pick or a QB who may not even be the best in the Draft let alone a franchise QB I would take a LB no question.
Maybe im just trying to think of something besides DT vs QB just to make things different around here but i think Mcclain will be something special when he comes to the Pro's.
Just tryin to switch things up a bit guys.
You dont take a linebacker first overall if he is the fifth best player in the country, especially since it probably means there are four other guys you should be drafting before him!!@EssexRam_Comment
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Oh ok, my mistake I thought you meant 2nd. I've seen him mock drafted anywhere from 11-20. I understand your reasoning for liking him, and if the Rams were 1 LB away from the Super Bowl then I could understand reaching for him, but as of now I don't believe its even the biggest hole on the team and there are a handful of players rated higher that fill bigger needs as well.Originally posted by lostsoul View PostI meant in the first round.
In college he was basicly the Peyton Manning of the defense, audibling and telling players where to line up.
Most draft experts rated him around the 5th best player in country.
Maybe its just me but if i could get a great linebacker who could lead the defense with the first pick or a QB who may not even be the best in the Draft let alone a franchise QB I would take a LB no question.
Maybe im just trying to think of something besides DT vs QB just to make things different around here but i think Mcclain will be something special when he comes to the Pro's.
Just tryin to switch things up a bit guys.
I appreciate what you're trying to do in keeping things interesting. Its a whole lot better than making another Vick thread
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This basically sums it up. I really see no logical reason the Rams would pick him first overall. I'm not sure any team would in this class.Originally posted by AtlantaRamFan View PostComment
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If the Rams honestly felt he was the best player in the draft, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Either you are in favor of the BPA approach or you aren't.Comment
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rey and JL both fell, so who knows maybe kindle and mcclain fallComment
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Rolando will not drop out of the top ten. On and off the field he's everything you look for a top tier player. But even though I'm a huge Bama fan, you can't take him first overall. Guys like Eric Berry and Suh should be rated higher. Now if we were to trade down, I would love to have him.
He has the size and speed to play any of the linebacker positions and is a good pass rusher. His instincts are off the charts against the run and he can drop back and play coverage as well. Watching Rolando play has been great. Because it really is like watching the Peyton Manning of defense. The way he makes calls out there and moves everyone around. He's ready to step in and start from day one, and I would go so far as to say he is a cant miss prospect.
All that being said. Linebacker is a tough position taking first overall. Would love to have him around four or five though.Comment
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How many 1rst round defensive lineman have we drafted since 1995.?
How many times have we heard that THIS guy is going to make a difference?
How many years have we waited for THIS guy to develope into the pick we've spent on him?
I know a new HC (and a good one IMO)
I know a new GM (also a good one IMO)
But as fans, we have put ALOT of hope into that D line, and I for one am ready to get a QB. Yes he has question marks about his durability, and the spread offense he comes from, but his accuracy,quick release and ability to get the ball out quickly, certainly give me more hope than another tackler.
I know Suh COULD be more than just another tackler but what if he isnt.What if we have to wait 3-4 years for him to grow into the roll? Then we would have wasted ANOTHER 1rst round pick on a position that our new HC should be able to coach up.
With a 1rst OA pick at the QB position I think after the first year we will KNOW what we have and if we've done our homework I think we could be in a much better position.
Its just surprising to me that with ALL we have invested in the Dline already there are guys still wanting to put ANOTHER 1rst round pick there.
Yes its still a hole but I think our coach will get more out of them in his 2nd year.-03-22-2010, 07:17 AM -
Regardless if we trade down or we have the 2nd pick in the 2nd round what position should we address? It is a given the majority of us think that WR or OT will be our first pick but with our next pick I think there is a great need for a CB on our team. At the late 20's or early 2nd round we would have a shot at Dre Kirkpatrickor Janoris Jenkins. Either would be my pick and it's a given we need to build up our Secondary. I prefer Kirkpatrick who can tackle, rush off the edge and is a shut down corner with either man or zone coverge.-02-21-2012, 12:15 PM
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I know there hasn't been that much talk about this guy considering the Jake Long option, but I was wondering if any of you guys think it would be worth trading down, to draft Albert and also have 1 or 2 extra picks in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.
The reason I say this is that Albert really is something special IMO. Because he plays the guard position, he gets overlooked slightly, but I think he may in fact be the BEST O-Lineman in this draft.
He is an absolute beast. He's so athletic, and has incredible strength. You rarely see the ability in a Guard to run downfield to run-block, but Albert is that kinda guy.
At first he was projected late 1st to early 2nd, but now, he could go as early as No. 5 to KC. One thing for sure is, the Cheaters might take a good look at him at No. 7.
I think we could go down two possible routes:
1. We trade away our No. 2 pick, into the middle of the round (anywhere from 12-18), to possibly draft Albert and get the trading team's 1st rounder in next year's draft.
Or...
(and this is what I'd love to see happen) :
2. Draft DE with our No. 2, Chris Long would be fantastic, and then if Albert is still available come the middle of the round, we could trade back using our 2nd rounder this year, and a 2nd rounder next year, or some kinda combination of picks (although staying away from 1st round choices), and draft Albert.
He's the kinda player who could ultimately play tackle in the NFL. He did in fact play LT in a few games last year and did a very good job. He would make such an impact to any O-Line, and for us, it would make our O-Line look something like this:
LT - Pace
LG - Albert
C - Richie?
RG - Bell
RT - Barron
What do you guys think? Would it be worth trading back into the middle of the 1st to get Albert?-04-08-2008, 04:15 AM -
This is always a debateable subject, positions of need vs. best player available. Myself, I waiver from round to round each draft. This year, we are guaranteed a top 2 pick, most likely a first overall. So, what do we do with it? Well, this is where I decide to do a little bit of prognosticating - in two different directions.
As of this point, there is one name being mentioned as the best college player headed to the draft: Ndamukong Suh. That may change by the combine, but that's doubtful. His value right now is off the charts - kind of like having the Fridge William Perry's best years in a nice neat package with a dose of Nighttrain Lane as a garnish. Whether or not that will be how it turns out is still anyone's guess.
So what happens if we draft him and this is how he looks after camp?
We instantly have a respectable, feared defense. This season, we have seen Chris Long double teamed, James Lauraintis become a top-level MLB, and an aging DE in Little still viable. We have also seen some of the depth players (like Douzable and Scott) step up and make plays at times. Our run defense is OK, but not good enough. Our passing defense - well, to be honest, it sucks. With Long unable to get free on a regular basis, and the line being held back, as well as Little/Hall being covered, well, it's hard to keep those long passes from being completed against our secondary.
With Suh out front, as well as Long, hopefully Carriker, Ryan, and whoever, we force other teams to CHOOSE who they want to take a chance on double teaming. Long's ability to break free would be increased, leading to a lot more pressure and sacks, forcing our opponents to get rid of the ball faster, or turn it over. Suh would also have the chance to get to the QB, and this would result in a ripple effect. With Long AND Suh both being watched, the rest of the D line would have better opportunity to penetrate the O line, resulting in more hurried passes.
And the result of those hurried passes? A better performing secondary. That's right - when a QB is rushed on a pass, his accuracy drops. When his accuracy drops, the ball is NOT thrown "between the numbers", meaning more often than not, it's up for grabs.
Add to this the addition to our run blocking Suh would bring - teams would be forced to look at running to the outside more - something that makes me nervous, as I am not sure we can cover the outside without upgrades.
So, what do I see as a result? A huge improvement in our defense overall, since any QB with a second or more was shredding our D all of this season. Take that away, and we would have been winning several games in 2009.
What if we decide to trade away our first pick?
This is where it gets sticky. Depending on his value after the combine, we could get anywhere from an extra 2nd round pick to an existing player plus a late-round pick. For the sake of simplicity, let's use...-12-29-2009, 12:02 PM -
Ok, so Robert Quinn the big, DE from UNC is now a Ram. This should make everyone happy for many reasons. He is the athletic, rusher that makes Spags system great. We needed a youthful burst from this side of the ball and him, Long, and Selvie will make us happy for the next 5 years.
NOW ON TO ROUND 2, AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
#1 We cannot take Offensive Guard here. We took Saffold here last year to protect our investment in Bradford. We also have money tied up in the Oline. A run blocking specialized guard can often be found in the later rounds of the draft.
#2 We should only take a DT if he is the absolute perfect fit and the guy we want. This is a position that we can plug in vets for another year and maybe find another guy in Free Agency or in the later rounds. It doesn't make sense to pay Round 2 money (possible last year's contract rules) for a guy that will play limited snaps as a rookie.
We have bookend DE's and need to get athletes on the field.
#3 Avoid Kyle Rudolph at all costs. If he was that good he would have went already. In a weak TE class, we could wait for DJ Williams or Housler in the next round. McDaniel doesn't favor TE's and we already have 2 young guys with potential. There are plenty of TE's that will be available to block for our vertical attack later in the draft or in Free Agency.
#4 Focus on intimidate needs to help get us to playoffs this season. It's obvious we may start slow with a new OC and lots of young guys, but come week 16 we cannot have a bad loss to the Seahawks because of our inability to open up the offense.
#5 Get an immediate need at an athletic position. They are:
WR, RB#2, OLB, SS, FS
Obviously, if we are lucky to have Hankerson, T.Smith, A.Ayers there we should go with one of these guys.
But if not lets pass on Justin Houston for a Guard like Wil Rackley because he is rated higher....
I truly believe that Round 2, 3, and 4 will have a great impact on the Rams this season.
WR, RB#2, OLB, SS, FS <---- These five needs should make up 3 or the next 4 picks...
Guys like Jacquizz Rodgers, Greg Little, and any Safety we want will all be there later....lets get athletes all over the field and create a buzz for the future and more free agent guards and Dt's will come play ....-04-29-2011, 08:38 AM
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