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  • Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

    by Jonathan Maurer Jonathan MaurerContributor


    Contributor Written on February 08, 2010



    The Rams have the #1 pick in the draft which comes as no surprise to a lot of people. It is pretty clear that the Rams are not gonna pass up on a monster like Ndamukong Suh. But that does not mean that they can't find a franchise QB in the draft. Why? Think about it! Joe Montana went in the 3rd round and won 4 Superbowl's with the *****, Brett Favre went in the 2nd round, Drew Brees who won the Superbowl yesterday was drafted in the second round, Tom Brady went in the 6th round!



    I think the future franchise QB for the Rams is Colt McCoy. I actually think Colt McCoy is the next Joe Montana (no joke). Joe Montana came from a famous school in Notre Dame but wasn't really looked at as your prototypical NFL quarterback. But he was still an accurate passer and he was a winner. That is what I see what with Colt McCoy which is an accurate passer and a winner. People doubt him because of his arm but those same people doubted Drew Brees and he won a Superbowl MVP yesterday.


    If the Rams do draft Colt McCoy he might not contribute right away. So the Rams should sign Marc Bulger to a two year deal that way Colt Mccoy can develop more. I know there are going to be some that will disagree with me (or a lot who will). But I will stick by my statement until proven wrong. Colt McCoy is the next Joe Montana!
    :ramlogo:

  • #2
    Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

    I have no problem with the concept of taking McCoy in Round 2, but Bulger is already under contract, so I'm not sure where signing him to a 2 year deal comes into play.

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    • #3
      Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

      I have no problem with it, but we should sign VICK to be a stop gap guy!!!111!!!1

      (Its required to mention Vick in every thread nowadays right?)

      But really, I would be happy with any of the "second tier" QB's. Colt, Pike, Lefevour, and yes even.... Timmy Tebow, if thats who DeSpags decides to roll with.

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      • #4
        Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

        Colt in the 2nd is an excellent choice I'd have zero problems with. A lot of "scouts" bash him for not having accuracy on deep throws but look at the Superbowl. How many throws went over 20 yards in the air?

        The issue is that you can't expect Colt to walk in and play like Peyton Manning. Colt is going to show up and he's going to play like Drew Brees did when he showed up in San Diego.

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        • #5
          Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

          Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
          Colt in the 2nd is an excellent choice I'd have zero problems with. A lot of "scouts" bash him for not having accuracy on deep throws but look at the Superbowl. How many throws went over 20 yards in the air?

          The issue is that you can't expect Colt to walk in and play like Peyton Manning. Colt is going to show up and he's going to play like Drew Brees did when he showed up in San Diego.
          I'm perfectly fine with that. This organization is in no position to start a rookie QB and expect good things to happen.

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          • #6
            Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

            So what happens if C. McCoy goes in the first round, say, to team like Minnesota? I kinda doubt anyone here would advocate taking Pike or Lefevre with the 33rd pick, would they?

            I had Suh at the top of my mock draft earlier, but, at this point, I'm really starting to look at Bradford as the guy. Only question is do we risk a trade down with Tampa and chance missing out on both Bradford or Suh.

            Oh well, that's why they pay Billy the big money!

            WHAT SAY YE?

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            • #7
              Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

              Originally posted by RAMarkable View Post
              So what happens if C. McCoy goes in the first round, say, to team like Minnesota? I kinda doubt anyone here would advocate taking Pike or Lefevre with the 33rd pick, would they?

              I had Suh at the top of my mock draft earlier, but, at this point, I'm really starting to look at Bradford as the guy. Only question is do we risk a trade down with Tampa and chance missing out on both Bradford or Suh.

              Oh well, that's why they pay Billy the big money!

              WHAT SAY YE?
              How much of a reach would LeFervour be? (ie, what would he command contract-wise vs. a 3rd round pick?)

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              • #8
                Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

                I'm coooooool with it.

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                • #9
                  Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

                  The problem is that LeFevour, Pike and Zac Robinson all had decent showings in the Senior Bowl that could elevate their draft status. If they keep rising then we may have to take them at the top of the second
                  @EssexRam_

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                  • #10
                    Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

                    Am I the only one who doesn't like Colt? IMO he has bust written all over him. He isn't a big guy and has a weak arm. Just because he was successful in a spread O in collage doesn't necessarily mean it will transfer over into success in the Pros. I know you could say that about every QB but I'm talking more about players like Smith in San Fran and Linehert with Arizona. If we are going to get a QB who we need to develop what's wrong with keeping Null? If we were planning on drafting a developmental QB this year why did we draft him last year?

                    I also have another thing to point out, remember when the redskins signed Albert Haynesworth and everyone said they would be awesome? and how they weren't? Why would it be any different for the rams this year if we took Suh? If the FO decides to take Suh then they have deemed him the right pick, and i will be behind it because they are WAY more knowledgeable about this stuff then myself, however looking at it through my eyes, i'd rather get a QB in the first with the best case scenario being trade back with tampa for another second round pick and take a QB in the first.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Ndamukong Suh Will Go #1 That Doesn't Mean Rams Won't Get a Qb

                      Originally posted by eldfan View Post
                      by Jonathan Maurer Jonathan MaurerContributor


                      Contributor Written on February 08, 2010



                      The Rams have the #1 pick in the draft which comes as no surprise to a lot of people. It is pretty clear that the Rams are not gonna pass up on a monster like Ndamukong Suh. But that does not mean that they can't find a franchise QB in the draft. Why? Think about it! Joe Montana went in the 3rd round and won 4 Superbowl's with the *****, Brett Favre went in the 2nd round, Drew Brees who won the Superbowl yesterday was drafted in the second round, Tom Brady went in the 6th round!



                      I think the future franchise QB for the Rams is Colt McCoy. I actually think Colt McCoy is the next Joe Montana (no joke). Joe Montana came from a famous school in Notre Dame but wasn't really looked at as your prototypical NFL quarterback. But he was still an accurate passer and he was a winner. That is what I see what with Colt McCoy which is an accurate passer and a winner. People doubt him because of his arm but those same people doubted Drew Brees and he won a Superbowl MVP yesterday.


                      If the Rams do draft Colt McCoy he might not contribute right away. So the Rams should sign Marc Bulger to a two year deal that way Colt Mccoy can develop more. I know there are going to be some that will disagree with me (or a lot who will). But I will stick by my statement until proven wrong. Colt McCoy is the next Joe Montana!
                      I totally agree with you. I rather keep Bulger than go after vick or any free agent.

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                      • Battering_RAMS
                        Colt McCoy?
                        by Battering_RAMS
                        If we take Suh #1 what do you think the chance of us taking McCoy at #33? How would you feel about him being our future qb? I know little about him and havent seen much of his play.
                        -03-04-2010, 03:21 PM
                      • AvengerRam_old
                        The Value of a Plan B (or... why the Rams are meeting with Colt McCoy)
                        by AvengerRam_old
                        I'm starting to wonder if there might be a parallel between the Rams' situation this year and the one faced by the Texans in 2006.

                        As I recall it, in the weeks leading up to the draft, the Texans were believed by all to be targeting Reggie Bush as the first pick in the draft. Then, when negotiations broke down, they went to their Plan B, Mario Williams (and, of course, it all worked out fairly well for them).

                        Similarly, the Rams are believed by most to be targeting Sam Bradford. I presume that they will be negotiating with his agent soon, if they are not already doing so.

                        In this context, it is necessary to have viable "Plan B." Otherwise, Bradford's agent can take a hard line with the Rams, basically stating "you have no choice but to pay what we ask."

                        Ndamukong Suh, standing alone, is not a viable "Plan B." The reason: nobody is going to buy that the Rams are willing to go to battle next year with Feeley and Null as their top 2 QBs.

                        Add Colt McCoy to the equation, and now you have a viable "Plan B" (Suh in Round 1, McCoy in Round 2).

                        In another thread, I posed the question: why release Bulger now?

                        Perhaps, part of the reason was the possibility that some team that might take McCoy late in Round 2 would instead sign Bulger. Or, if that was not the plan, maybe it could work just work out that way (i.e. maybe the Vikings will sign Bulger to back up Favre rather than considering a QB in Round 1).

                        In any event, I think that, if Bradford and his agent are unreasonable, the Rams have their "Mario Williams" plan in Suh/McCoy.

                        Who knows... Plan B might even become Plan A.
                        -04-06-2010, 10:18 AM
                      • AvengerRam_old
                        McCoy continues to annoy
                        by AvengerRam_old
                        The one comment (which I've read from a handful of fans and a couple of analysts) that I just don't get is the suggestion that Gerald McCoy should be taken before Ndamukong Suh.

                        Based on what?

                        Go and look up their stats (I've posted them before and I don't have the time of patience to pull them again). Its not even close. Suh's production is essentially double that of McCoy.

                        And what's the context of these stats? Two guys who play in the same conference against the same competition level. Two guys who are close to the same size.

                        I've heard some try to argue that McCoy has better technique. I don't see it. From what I've seen, Suh has great technique for a college player. But, even if McCoy had better technique, SUH DOUBLED HIS PRODUCTION! Imagine how Suh could produce if his technique develops further.

                        If the Rams ultimately decide that they need to take a QB with the first pick, I'll be disappointed, but at least I'd understand the thinking. After all, if that pick were to turn into a franchise QB, nobody would argue with it in the long run. Similarly, if the Rams trade down, I'll have misgivings, but I'd understand the logic.

                        I'll tell you this, though. If the Rams stay a pick No. 1 and take McCoy over Suh, you will hear a loud sound coming from the Southeast United States.

                        It will be me screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!"
                        -01-26-2010, 07:25 AM
                      • The Optimistic Lamb
                        The Forgotten QB in this Draft
                        by The Optimistic Lamb
                        Colt McCoy!!!

                        So often on the NFl channel (and this forum) Colt McCoy gets lost between the Tebow bashing and the Suh vs Bradford hype. But what about Colt McCoy? Have you seen this guy's statistics? They're off the charts!!! If he doesn't go in the first round, how could the Rams NOT take him in the 2nd?


                        2009 Statistics:

                        470 Att / 3,521 Yards / 70.6 cmp% / 7.4 YPA / 27 TD


                        *Colt's 2009 stats aren't even his best year
                        Yes
                        58.33%
                        21
                        No
                        41.67%
                        15
                        -03-08-2010, 02:26 PM
                      • rob6465
                        Suh vs McCoy?
                        by rob6465
                        How much better is Suh compared to McCoy(OK)? Maybe trade 1st pick and draf McCoy and still pick up our needed QB.
                        -01-13-2010, 10:53 AM
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