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I don't know about you all, but I am REALLY excited to see this kid at the combine this weekend. He has the tools to be a SUPERSTAR, just needs an attitude check. Wes Bunting of the National Football post said his skill set was similar to Brandon Marshall...I think Mike Williams could be a great low risk high reward type of pick in round 3. What do all of you think?
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Definitely has talent, probably the 2nd best receiver after Dez Bryant. But low risk!?!?!?! Not at all!! the guy quit on his team. We are going to have to do some major questioning of his character find out what really happened before I would be comfortable taking him. To me its more like high risk high reward.Originally posted by THOLTFAN81 View Post -
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I agree he is the second best WR behind dez. Really can't wait to see him @ the combine and I meant to say high risk high reward. Definitely high risk but I feel like the reward could be huge if he is mentored by a guy like Spags. Also agree that we would need to do our due diligence on why he quit half way thru this season. Part of it may have been the fact that Greg Paulus who played basketball @ duke for four years was his starting QB lol. That's my best guess atleast.Comment
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Tholtfan, ANOTHER player with character issues?! You're starting to sound like the Bengals!
That being said, being that I am the house SU fan and season ticket holder, I have seen this kid's skills first hand. Even though I have mixed feelings for him personally (he did quit the team after all), he has a TON of talent and I wouldn't mind us grabbing him. He's big, strong, and runs great routes. He had a few drops at the beginning of the season, but thats probably from rust having been suspended the season before. After a couple games he was catching everything in sight. I mean this guy caught 10 touchdowns in 2007 with Andrew Robinson throwing him the ball. ANDREW FREAKIN ROBINSON!
Still, between being suspended for a year in '08, being suspended for a game in '09 and then quitting the team, I would be VERY surprised if he fits in as a "4 pillars" kind of player.Comment
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I knew I was gonna get this response from someone lol. To shut down rumors no I don't want plax or pacmanOriginally posted by cfh128 View Post
. Thanks for the insight though from an SU fan cmh. I would give you positive rep if I had power right now and wasn't sending this from my phone lol
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Here is an article I snagged off of yahoo sports that addresses Williams quitting the team:
INDIANAPOLIS — Wearing a serious expression on his face and staring a questioner directly in the eye, Syracuse wide receiver Mike Williams wanted to make one point emphatically clear.
“I didn’t quit,” Williams said today at the NFL scouting combine. ”I just want everybody to know I didn’t quit.”
Williams’ mysterious departure from the Syracuse football team has been cloaked in relative secrecy. According to a league source, Williams had a serious falling-out with coach Doug Marrone that ended his tenure with the Orangemen.
Williams wasn’t exactly the only scholarship player to leave the program since Marrone’s arrival. There were a lot of players who didn’t stay, but it’s still an important matter for Williams to explain to the NFL.
Wiliams declined to elaborate on the reasons why he didn’t complete his career at Syracuse, but said he’s been honest and forthright with NFL teams.
"I’ve been talking to all the NFL teams about that, I want to leave it at that," Williams said. "I want everybody to know is I didn’t quit. I’ll leave that story at that. All the teams know the whole story. I don’t want to make it a big media story."
Williams is an athletic 6-foot-2, 220-pounder. Just watch his YouTube video where he beats NBA player Donte Greene in a slam-dunk contest on the Syracuse campus.
Williams’ draft stock could rise with a solid round of interviews and a fast 40-yard dash time. He’s expected to test extremely well here at Lucas Oil Stadium. And he’s projected anywhere from the second round to the third round currently.
He predicted that he’ll run the 40-yard dash in the 4.4 range.
"Everybody thinks I’m going to run a 4.5 because I weighed in at 220," he said. "If I can run a 4.4, I can move up a whole lot."
Williams has been working out at API Performance in Pensacola, Fla., to prepare for the combine, catching passes from Central Michigan quarterback Dan LeFevour.
"We’ve been out there throwing a lot," Williams said. "Sam Bradford is out there too, but he’s not really throwing like that. Basically it’s been Dan LeFevour.”
At Syracuse, Williams played for three head coaches and four offensive coordinators.
"It was kind of hard, but I got through it," Williams said.
Williams didn’t shy away from discussing some of his issues at Syracuse, which included a suspension for an academic violation.
"I want to let them know that I’m a nice person, I’m a good person," Williams said. "School was just my problem. I had bad judgment when I was young. School has been my problem, I want to let them know I can play football and be there for that team."
He said he has scheduled a meeting with the Baltimore Ravens, but has yet to meet with the Buffalo Bills. He has also met with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the St. Louis Rams.
Williams expressed confidence that he’ll succeed in the NFL.
"I think I’m ready to play at the next level," he said. "I think I can compete out there, but it’s hard to tell. The biggest adjustment is going against corners who have the same talent as me and adjusting to that speed."
Williams is determined to succeed after growing up in a tough part of Buffalo in a single-parent household. For the most part, it was just him and his mom.
"We were kind of in a rough neighborhood, it was kind of hard," Williams said. "My uncle took me under his wing and let me know that’s not the way I want to go and I took the college route."
And now he’s trying to run a fly pattern into the NFL after taking a detour this past season.
If Williams can convince teams that any trouble from the past will remain in the past, he could make an impact in this league with his size and ability to run after the catch.Last edited by MrOrange; -02-26-2010, 07:30 PM.Comment
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THANKS AGAIN DUDE! Really happy we interviewed him...I think this guy could be an absolute STEAL!Originally posted by cfh128 View PostHere is an article I snagged off of yahoo sports that addresses Williams quitting the team:
INDIANAPOLIS — Wearing a serious expression on his face and staring a questioner directly in the eye, Syracuse wide receiver Mike Williams wanted to make one point emphatically clear.
“I didn’t quit,” Williams said today at the NFL scouting combine. ”I just want everybody to know I didn’t quit.”
Williams’ mysterious departure from the Syracuse football team has been cloaked in relative secrecy. According to a league source, Williams had a serious falling-out with coach Doug Marrone that ended his tenure with the Orangemen.
Williams wasn’t exactly the only scholarship player to leave the program since Marrone’s arrival. There were a lot of players who didn’t stay, but it’s still an important matter for Williams to explain to the NFL.
Wiliams declined to elaborate on the reasons why he didn’t complete his career at Syracuse, but said he’s been honest and forthright with NFL teams.
"I’ve been talking to all the NFL teams about that, I want to leave it at that," Williams said. "I want everybody to know is I didn’t quit. I’ll leave that story at that. All the teams know the whole story. I don’t want to make it a big media story."
Williams is an athletic 6-foot-2, 220-pounder. Just watch his YouTube video where he beats NBA player Donte Greene in a slam-dunk contest on the Syracuse campus.
Williams’ draft stock could rise with a solid round of interviews and a fast 40-yard dash time. He’s expected to test extremely well here at Lucas Oil Stadium. And he’s projected anywhere from the second round to the third round currently.
He predicted that he’ll run the 40-yard dash in the 4.4 range.
"Everybody thinks I’m going to run a 4.5 because I weighed in at 220," he said. "If I can run a 4.4, I can move up a whole lot."
Williams has been working out at API Performance in Pensacola, Fla., to prepare for the combine, catching passes from Central Michigan quarterback Dan LeFevour.
"We’ve been out there throwing a lot," Williams said. "Sam Bradford is out there too, but he’s not really throwing like that. Basically it’s been Dan LeFevour.”
At Syracuse, Williams played for three head coaches and four offensive coordinators.
"It was kind of hard, but I got through it," Williams said.
Williams didn’t shy away from discussing some of his issues at Syracuse, which included a suspension for an academic violation.
"I want to let them know that I’m a nice person, I’m a good person," Williams said. "School was just my problem. I had bad judgment when I was young. School has been my problem, I want to let them know I can play football and be there for that team."
He said he has scheduled a meeting with the Baltimore Ravens, but has yet to meet with the Buffalo Bills. He has also met with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the St. Louis Rams.
Williams expressed confidence that he’ll succeed in the NFL.
"I think I’m ready to play at the next level," he said. "I think I can compete out there, but it’s hard to tell. The biggest adjustment is going against corners who have the same talent as me and adjusting to that speed."
Williams is determined to succeed after growing up in a tough part of Buffalo in a single-parent household. For the most part, it was just him and his mom.
"We were kind of in a rough neighborhood, it was kind of hard," Williams said. "My uncle took me under his wing and let me know that’s not the way I want to go and I took the college route."
And now he’s trying to run a fly pattern into the NFL after taking a detour this past season.
If Williams can convince teams that any trouble from the past will remain in the past, he could make an impact in this league with his size and ability to run after the catch.
We could use this:
YouTube - Mike Williams TD, SU vs. CincinnatiComment
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Ran an unofficial 4.49 and 4.56 40s.Comment
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way too many off the field issues.
Benn is #2 WR btwComment
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Benn looks good too, this is a great year cause it is really deep for WRs.Originally posted by richtree View PostComment
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Yeah, it is deep for many postitions.Originally posted by THOLTFAN81 View Post
The Rams should expect solid picks in the first 4 rounds of all potential starters.Comment
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From The Redzone:
4/20/2012
Now that disgraced defensive coordinator is looking into avenues for reinstatement to the NFL, many voices have called for his suspension to be extended to a lifetime ban and some pundits even look at his actions as criminal. LZ Granderson, senior writer for ESPN the Magazine, disagrees and feels that Williams should not have to wait longer than a year given the precedent set by transgressions we all can agree are worse than bounties.
For example, in March 2009 Donte' Stallworth got drunk, got in his car and hit a pedestrian, killing him. He was convicted of manslaughter and was suspended by the league … but not for long. He was reinstated after missing a season and signed with the Ravens. He has a lifetime suspension of his Florida driver's license but in March he signed as a free agent with the New England Patriots.
Or look at Houston's Brian Cushing, who was named the 2009 defensive rookie of the year. He was busted for having a performance-enhancement drug in his system and was suspended … but not for long. Four games is all that getting caught cheating cost him, and he kept the award.
What about Michael Vick? Killing dogs and going to prison. Now he is the starting quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles.
In light of these examples, why in the world would anyone think Williams will never work in the NFL again? That DUI manslaughter can be forgiven but for some reason bounties are the great unforgivable sin?
The audio of Williams is disturbing but not entirely surprising. Sometimes guys in the pile at the end of plays will spit, bite, pull, kick, knee, elbow … and that's at the high school level. The nickname for 2005 defensive rookie player of the year Shawne Merriman is "Lights Out." It is a declaration of intent to injure, and efforts to suggest otherwise are just feeble attempts to justify our love for something that is fairly barbaric.
Williams didn't invent boundaries and he didn't issue them in empty rooms to hostile audiences. As one of his former players reportedly said, "Gregg's not the only one who has done stuff like this, but he's the one who got caught."
Williams does not need sensitivity training. He has already apologized and did not challenge his suspension, unlike his boss Sean Payton. Let him sit for a year and come back at the same time as Payton, who didn't start the bounty program but knew all about it.
If there's room in the league for players who get 'roided up before they go out to try to destroy each other, if there's room for players arrested for domestic assault multiple times, if there's room for a guy who got drunk and ran somebody over, I think there's room for a defensive coordinator who reportedly put $15,000 on Brad Johnson's head. Especially since no one in that room stood up and said "Coach, this is w...-04-21-2012, 12:23 PM -
Ted Lewis • New Orleans Times-Picayune • June 12, 2008
In his current role as the pastor of the church he recently founded in his adopted home of St. Louis, Aeneas Williams often tells the story of how at age 40 Moses found it in his heart to visit his brother Aaron, thus beginning the saga of Exodus.
Williams usually uses the story in the context of how he and wife Tracy started The Spirit of the Lord Family Church in his basement last year when he was almost the same age as Moses.
But it also refers to something that happened two decades ago - when Williams, after two years of attending Southern University as an ordinary student after graduating from Fortier High School in New Orleans, felt moved in his heart to walk on the football team just prior to the start of the season.
"Michael Lindsay, a friend of mine from Fortier, asked me why I wasn't playing, and what he said really struck with me," said Williams, who had last played on Fortier's undefeated 1985 team.
"And my uncle, William Whitson, was always saying to, 'Nikki, why are you not playing football?'
"Before, I never would go along with them. But this time, for whatever reason, I said, 'OK.' "
And unlike Moses, Williams at that point was not a reluctant warrior.
"In other areas, when I get a desire to do something, I might question it," he said. "But in football, I didn't."
Good thing.
In just five weeks Williams was starting at cornerback for the Jaguars. Three years later, the Arizona Cardinals made Williams their third-round draft choice, launching an NFL that career that last 14 seasons, saw him named All-Pro five times, appear in eight Pro Bowls and selected to the league's 1990s All-Decade Team. Those are credentials sure to land Williams in Canton as soon as he's eligible.
Already, he's scheduled for induction in the Cardinals' Ring of Honor this fall.
But before that, Williams is about to be inducted into the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame in Natchitoches. He was elected by acclimation in his first year of eligibility.
"All of this recognition is a tremendous honor," Williams said. "But my goal as a player has always to get myself better individually in order to assist my team getting better as a group."
That wasn't always easy.
As Moses did, Williams spent years in the wilderness - namely Arizona where in his 10 seasons the Cardinals lost nearly twice as many games as they lost, making the playoffs only once.
Traded to St. Louis on draft day in 2001, Williams helped transform one of the league's worst defenses into one of its best.
The Rams went to Super Bowl XXXVI in the Superdome where they lost to New England, 20-17.
Williams' play that season...-06-14-2008, 05:21 AM -
I don't see why everybody is so high on Benn as a 2nd rounder. I think he was very overrated at Illinois. He didn't have a great QB with Juice Williams, but I still don't think we should go after him with only 7 career TDs. I would much rather get Damian Williams, who played in a WCO last year and is a much more polished route runner. What does everybody else think?Yes8No18-03-25-2010, 10:40 AM -
Feb. 27, 2006
By Clark Judge
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer
Tell Clark your opinion!
INDIANAPOLIS -- The next great NFL cornerback is here. Just ask him.
"I can match up with any receiver in the country," said Virginia Tech's Jimmy Williams.
Williams is at the top of a deep class of defensive backs, with the emphasis on size. At 6-feet-2, 213 pounds, he's bigger than what we've come to expect from cornerbacks -- but get used to it.
Florida State's Antonio Cromartie is 6-2, 208; Miami's Marcus Maxey is 6-2; Penn State's Alan Zemaitis is 6-1; the University of Texas' Cedric Griffin is just over 6 feet. Then there's Williams, who can line up at either cornerback or safety ... and who has.
"Are you the best cornerback in this year's draft?" he was asked at this year's NFL scouting combine.
"Yes, sir," he said. "I should go in the top 10, to be honest with you."
He might be right. There's a premium on big corners that can cover, and Jimmy Williams can. In fact, he can do it all. He can run. He can hit. He's not afraid to tackle. He's good at jamming receivers; he's good playing off them, too. And did we mention he's confident?
Williams did, and he'll roll up his sleeves to prove it. On his right forearm there's a tattoo that reads, "Destined 2," and on the other are the words "Be Great." I think you get the idea.
"Every time I look down I keep my 'swag' and keep myself confident that I want to be good," said Williams. "It's something to remind me every day."
As if he needs help.
It was Williams who, prior to the 2004 season, predicted that USC wide receiver Mike Williams wouldn't be productive if allowed to play in the season opener against Virginia Tech. Williams wasn't, but that didn't stop Jimmy Williams' head coach from intervening and banning his cornerback from talking to the media.
For the rest of the season.
"I learned after that," said Williams. "You have to watch what you say, but if you're being honest, at the end of the day more people respect you. I had fun with it, and I'll be glad to just go out and play. But I need the media."
Williams played his first two years as a safety before switching to cornerback, where he led the ACC in interceptions his junior season with five. Williams prefers cornerback -- saying he wants to prove that big guys can excel at the position -- but his NFL future may depend on times in the 40-yard dash at Tuesday's workouts.
"In my opinion he's a corner who, down the road, can become a safety," said Atlanta coach Jim Mora, a former secondary coach. "If he runs a fast 40 that will confirm it; if he doesn't, maybe you have to rethink...-03-02-2006, 07:44 AM -
Pre-camp decision stuns Dolphins
ESPN.com news services
Miami Dolphins running back Ricky Williams has told the team he plans to retire after just five NFL seasons, The Miami Herald reported on its Web site early Sunday morning.
"He wants to get on with his life, wants to move on to bigger and better things," Herald reporter and ESPN commentator Dan Le Betard told SportsCenter.
According to the Herald's report, Williams wants to travel the world and is tired of the demands and restraints of a professional football career.
"I just don't want to be in this business anymore," Williams told the paper. "I was never strong enough to not play football, but I'm strong enough now. I've considered everything about this. Everyone has thrown every possible scenario at me about why I shouldn't do this, but they're in denial. I'm happy with my decision.
"I'm finally free. I can't remember ever being this happy."
According to Le Batard, the Dolphins are stunned by the news and members of the organization are still trying to talk Williams out of his decision, one the Herald says should be finalized this week when Williams faxes his retirement papers to the league.
Williams was scheduled to make $3.7 million in each of the 2004 and '05 seasons, and $11.25 million in 2006, ESPN.com's John Clayton reported.
Last season, Williams rushed for 1,372 yards on 392 carries, averaging 3.5 yards. He has rushed for 1,000 or more yards in four of his five NFL seasons with the New Orleans Saints and the Dolphins, tallying 6,354 for his career. Williams also had 1,806 receiving yards on 229 catches.
Williams reportedly tested positive for marijuana on Dec. 10, 2003, and faced a fine of at least $650,000 for violating the league's substance-abuse policy for the second time.
The Saints traded virtually their 1999 entire draft to move up to No. 5 overall to take Williams, a Heisman Trophy winner at the University of Texas.-07-24-2004, 11:30 PM
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