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  • Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

    If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice
    Feb. 27, 2010
    By Pete Prisco
    CBSSports.com Senior Writer
    Tell Pete your opinion!

    INDIANAPOLIS -- When was the last Super Bowl you came away from thinking that a defensive tackle decided the game?

    Now you know why the St. Louis Rams have no choice but to take a quarterback with the first overall pick in the April draft.

    That quarterback should be Oklahoma's Sam Bradford.

    Forget the charade, Rams. Forget the two top defensive tackles. As good as Nebraska's Ndamukong Suh and Oklahoma's Gerald McCoy are as players, that position doesn't come close to being as important as quarterback.

    You don't win championships with defensive tackles.

    You win with great passers.

    The Rams were 1-15 last season. Their offense was horrible. The passing game was the problem. They were 28th in passing and had just two pass plays of 40-plus yards, the lowest number in the league.

    Starting quarterback Marc Bulger, who missed time with injuries, is talking retirement and the Rams might not want him back if he doesn't.

    When Rams general manager Billy Devaney met with the media here at the combine, he said the Rams have pretty much narrowed their possibilities with the top pick -- provided there is no trade -- to four players, the two defensive tackles, Bradford and Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen.

    "We know this," Devaney said. "It if comes down to that right now, there are four guys that will be given consideration."

    There is still a lot of work left to do before decision day. We have the combine, pro days and two months of evaluation.

    And then there's the most important part of all: Is Bradford's surgically repaired shoulder as good as new?

    Bradford suffered a shoulder injury while being tackled in a game last September against BYU. He came back for a game, but the reinjured the shoulder against Texas. That's when his season ended.

    Bradford had surgery in October, performed by esteemed surgeon Dr. James Andrews, but he's not all the way back to where he can throw. So he isn't throwing here at the combine, but will instead wait for his Pro Day workout in Norman on March 25.

    "We'll get with the doctors, our medical people, as soon as we get back to St. Louis," Devaney said. "That'll be a big decision, and a lot will go into that. We'll probably have more than one opinion on that. We want to get as accurate and thorough information we can, so we'll find out after this process is over. Yeah, that's why we're putting it on the doctors. You hope so. You'll get obviously all the tests, but we've got to see him throw.

    "I think his [pro] date is the 25th of March and in my mind we may go in again right before the draft and see a couple weeks later what his status is. Is it improving? Is it the same? Has he regressed? We need to find out and be as sure as possible. There's no sure things, but yeah, a position like that absolutely we need to be sure."

    Bradford said Saturday that his arm is about 85 percent right now.

    "I think Dr. Andrews is extremely happy with it," Bradford said. "He says I'm ahead of schedule right now, the velocity I'm putting on the ball, some of the throws I'm able to make right now. I feel like with another month's work, by the time my pro day gets here, I'll be able to make all the throws I was able to make before, with probably some more arm strength I had before I got hurt."

    Drew Brees had shoulder surgery four years ago and then won a Super Bowl earlier this month. With modern medicine, the shoulder shouldn't be a problem. But until Rams doctors give hum the OK, they won't know for sure.

    Bradford's talent says he should be the first player picked, and were it not for the shoulder it would be an easy choice. It was interesting that he was given the No. 1 jersey here among quarterbacks.

    "It's alphabetic and mine happens to be the first name," Bradford said. "So it's nice."

    No. 1 in April is what he wants. And based on what some scouts are saying, he should be the guy.

    "He's the most accurate passer I've seen come into the draft in the past 10 years," one NFC personnel director said.

    Bradford had completion percentages of 69.5 and 67.9 in his two full seasons as quarterback at OU. Those numbers are really impressive, especially since he played in an up-tempo passing offense. He was adept at hitting receivers on the run and threw 50 touchdown passes in 2008.

    Bradford has added 12 pounds of weight to his 6-foot-4½ frame, which puts him at 236 pounds. That should help him better handle the pounding in the pocket in the NFL.

    "He's a tall guy, he just needed to add some weight," Devaney said. "They didn't think he was a problem. They just thought as he matures and keeps working he'll be fine eventually. One of the things he did need for a tall guy -- he needed to put some pounds on."

    Taking a quarterback high is sometimes a risky proposition. We've seen a lot of busts. Devaney was in San Diego when the Chargers had Ryan Leaf go bust, so he has seen it up close and personal.

    But Devaney need not worry. Bradford won't bust. He's not a knucklehead like Leaf. He's a good, levelheaded kid who happens to be the best quarterback in this draft and will follow in the recent footsteps of Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco and Mark Sanchez and start as a rookie -- and have success.

    Suh is a great player, the top in this draft. But with the value placed on the quarterback and the way the game is played now, the Rams can't afford to take him.

    If they want a ring, they need to draft the guy with the golden wing.

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    Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

    If his arm is ok, throw him in the fire and start him, give him a TE and draft Defense.FA a RB, and we're on our way.

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      Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

      Originally posted by dave626 View Post
      If his arm is ok, throw him in the fire and start him, give him a TE and draft Defense.FA a RB, and we're on our way.
      Dont throw him in the fire. Let him sit and absorb the information of the offense, and the speed of the game.

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      • #4
        Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

        If we do get him, do not AND I MEAN DO NOT pull a Lions on him like what they did to Stafford.


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          Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

          Originally posted by 01d 0rd3r View Post
          Dont throw him in the fire. Let him sit and absorb the information of the offense, and the speed of the game.
          The "good" people of St. Louis will never tolerate a first round pick sitting around absorbing stuff. If we plan on doing that with a QB, pick one in the later rounds.

          Our first round this year needs to be a home run from the start of the season. If Bradford isn't going to be that guy, don't pay him $70+ million.

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          • #6
            Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

            Hmmm putting in Bradford from day one with a potential weak shoulder = out for season.

            Last year both Bulger and Boller wen't down...... I would not risc that on a new player from day one.

            If we take him (and I am still hoping we take one of the DT's), then he should sit and learn. That would also give our young WR's time to get better so that he at least have some kind of weapons when he gets in there.

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            • #7
              Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

              it didn't help san fran win a championship when they drafted smith no 1 so drafting bradford doesn't mean we will

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                Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

                Originally posted by ramstiles View Post
                it didn't help san fran win a championship when they drafted smith no 1 so drafting bradford doesn't mean we will
                thats true but when you have won 6 games in three seasons you have to take that shot,drafting defensive linemen every year with the top few picks is not going to get this team to a super bowl, and I know you need to stop the other team but you still have to score points and that is something this team is horrible at and Bradford could be the guy to start to fix that.

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                • #9
                  Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

                  For me, part of the consideration has to be how well we're REALLY likely to do this season and whether we're playing a long or short-term game here.

                  I don't know how next year's draft compares to this but I know the likes of Suh don't come along often. Yes, we clearly need a QB, but if you look at this draft as part of a two-three year programme, rather than a single draft in itself, i think we need to be looking at the bigger picture rather than the simple 'which position is more important, QB or DT?'.

                  The likelihood is we won't be going to the Superbowl next season. So should we build for this season and bring in the QB or build as part of a bigger programme? Are the QBs available in next year's draft likely to be any worse than what's available this year? Are the DTs?

                  I'm not 100% sure a QB is what the Rams focus should be on THIS year, unless we're talking about Clausen or Bradford being a real stud. If there's someone coming through in the next year or so then I think we're better taking the BPA now and waiting for that man in the future - rather than simply taking the short-term option of a QB now.

                  We've got so many holes that I think we either try and make a big trade for more picks or we take Suh / McCoy. Fill lots of needs or take the BPA. Don't just take the position.

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                    Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

                    Originally posted by ramstiles View Post
                    it didn't help san fran win a championship when they drafted smith no 1 so drafting bradford doesn't mean we will
                    First of all, Alex Smith and Sam Bradford are two totally different players with different styles, attributes, and strengths.

                    Sam Bradford is 10x the QB Smith will ever be.






                    As for sitting Bradford in his rookie season, I don't think it's a bad idea. But, he should still get playing time. Like what Spag's said in an interview, they should do it like how the Eagles did it with McNabb.

                    Let him play a few series every game, and then by week 10, name him the starter since he will be more used to the speed of the game, and would have a feel of NFL defenses without having to play significantly and having a chance to get injured, or sacked too much.

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                      Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

                      Originally posted by jkramsfan View Post
                      thats true but when you have won 6 games in three seasons you have to take that shot,drafting defensive linemen every year with the top few picks is not going to get this team to a super bowl, and I know you need to stop the other team but you still have to score points and that is something this team is horrible at and Bradford could be the guy to start to fix that.
                      Everything we did prior to last season needs to be forgotten, as that was under a different program with different players and different priorities. We're purging the roster of most of those guys who contributed to the first two seasons of debacle.

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                        Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

                        Originally posted by jkramsfan View Post
                        thats true but when you have won 6 games in three seasons you have to take that shot,drafting defensive linemen every year with the top few picks is not going to get this team to a super bowl, and I know you need to stop the other team but you still have to score points and that is something this team is horrible at and Bradford could be the guy to start to fix that.
                        If bradford turns out to be a franchise QB then it would be wise to select him I'm not sure he will My opinion is its better to have a great DT (suh) than a average QB

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                          Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

                          Originally posted by RockinRam View Post
                          First of all, Alex Smith and Sam Bradford are two totally different players with different styles, attributes, and strengths.

                          Sam Bradford is 10x the QB Smith will ever be.
                          He might be a better QB than smith but I'm not sure he is a franchise QB I would be happier if we draft suh.

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                            Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

                            I'm starting to wonder what's the big knock on Bradford besides his durability? Makes all the throws, works hard, intelligent, great guy in the locker, calling Bradford average is calling a rookiee Manning (who did less in college) average. Only thing Manning has working for him more than Bradford coming out of college is he worked out of a pro style offense and his arm might be a tad stronger. In this case thats a bad argument because Bradford took half his snaps in training camp from under center and around 30 percent of his snaps in games from under center and can throw all the intermediate routes "on a rope" as they say. I doubt he forgot to drop back that fast and Im sure hes been refining it during his downtime.

                            So realistically, the only real knocks on Bradford is durability. Just watch the game tape people, just watch the tape..

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                              Re: Prisco: If Rams want to win, Bradford is easy -- and only -- choice

                              Originally posted by Bralidore(RAMMODE) View Post
                              I'm starting to wonder what's the big knock on Bradford besides his durability? Makes all the throws, works hard, intelligent, great guy in the locker, calling Bradford average is calling a rookiee Manning (who did less in college) average. Only thing Manning has working for him more than Bradford coming out of college is he worked out of a pro style offense and his arm might be a tad stronger. In this case thats a bad argument because Bradford took half his snaps in training camp from under center and around 30 percent of his snaps in games from under center and can throw all the intermediate routes "on a rope" as they say. I doubt he forgot to drop back that fast and Im sure hes been refining it during his downtime.

                              So realistically, the only real knocks on Bradford is durability. Just watch the game tape people, just watch the tape..
                              Great points. Also, Bradford has also bulked up 15lbs. since his injury, so it looks like he is a much stronger player now.

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                              • r8rh8rmike
                                Rams Confident Bradford Is Healthy
                                by r8rh8rmike
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                                At the NFL scouting combine one month ago, Rams general manager Billy Devaney said the team planned to have an independent third party — a "neutral" doctor, if you will — check out quarterback Sam Bradford's surgically repaired throwing shoulder.

                                Those plans have been scratched.

                                "At that point, (the shoulder) was such a big question mark," Devaney said Wednesday. "Since then, we've talked to so many people that have looked at him from other teams. And our doctors — they've gone over him with a fine-tooth comb — we're completely satisfied. We don't need a follow-up."

                                Devaney said he and coach Steve Spagnuolo have done some checking on their own over the last several weeks to get medical opinions from other voices. Devaney didn't specify which teams, but Devaney and Spagnuolo have worked with several other teams over the years, and as Devaney put it: "You have friends around the league."

                                Bradford underwent a reconstruction of the AC joint surrounding his shoulder in late October, with the procedure performed by noted orthopedic surgeon James Andrews.

                                "They just went in and with like a nylon braid pretty much put the clavicle (collarbone) back in place and re-secured the joint," Bradford said at the scouting combine.

                                Bradford injured the shoulder twice during the University of Oklahoma's 2009 season.

                                "It was a grade 3 (shoulder) separation," Bradford said.

                                In some cases even after a second separation, surgery isn't required. Rest and rehab can get a shoulder back to health. But in this case, Bradford decided not to take any chances. If he had done nothing but rest and rehab, there might have been even more doubts about the shoulder during the pre-draft process. Having the surgery — and having it performed by Andrews — would lessen those doubts.

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                                "From what I've heard from doctors, after the second (injury), for my long-term health, if I wanted to continue playing football and get stronger in the weight room, I needed to have the surgery," Bradford said.

                                Before the surgery, Bradford approached San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith for advice.

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                              • r8rh8rmike
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                                by r8rh8rmike
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                                NORMAN, Okla. – When Sam Bradford heard the Troy Aikman workout comparison from an analyst, he had to be forgiven for his slight shrug. Twelve days after watching some hyperbolic television snippets following Tim Tebow’s workout at the University of Florida, Bradford knew what to expect if he performed to his capabilities.

                                So when the former Oklahoma Sooners quarterback wrapped his largely flawless 63-pass effort in front of more than 50 NFL coaches, scouts and executives, he girded himself for some of the hype that was bound to come with it. Tebow can have the circus. Bradford will take the business. And judging by the direction he’s headed, business will open with him becoming the No. 1 pick in April’s NFL draft.

                                “When it’s all said and done, I know it’s just a workout,” Bradford said, leaning against a wall inside Oklahoma’s Memorial Stadium. “But I know that for me, it might have been more important than usual because I got hurt this year. People haven’t seen me throw and play in a while. I think there were a lot of questions about how my arm was going to come back from the [shoulder] surgery.”

                                Where it concerns workload and health, Bradford whisked through his latest benchmark, stretching his scheduled 50-ball regimen to a briskly paced 63 passes. And by the time he was through, he’d gone through the entire route tree with only one pass hitting the turf. And as one NFC assistant pointed out, “That one could have been caught.” The workout included all the passes coaches expected to see, including a handful of deep outs and deep posts that put plenty of stress on the throwing (right) shoulder that Dr. James Andrews surgically repaired last October.

                                While analysts are prone to placing grandiose labels on what such a workout means, there may not have been a single person more dialed into reality than Bradford. He’d rather be measured against healthy, 2008 Heisman Trophy-winning Sam Bradford before the proclamations move on to someone even bigger.

                                “This was just me answering questions,” said Bradford, who was limited to just three games in 2009. “And I felt like I answered a lot about my arm strength, my accuracy, my throwing motion. I feel like everything came back the way I expected it to. I feel good about my arm. Now hopefully I won’t have to answer questions about my shoulder anymore.”

                                Even with his latest showing, that’s not likely. One NFC executive said any personal workout with Bradford – and he’s got them scheduled with the Washington Redskins and St. Louis Rams – will include a more rigorous run than Monday’s script. That means more out routes, more posts, more throwing on the run and plenty of snaps from an actual center, rather than the simulated ones he has been taking.

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                              • eldfan
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                                by eldfan
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                                At the NFL scouting combine one month ago, Rams general manager Billy Devaney said the team planned to have an independent third party — a "neutral" doctor, if you will — check out quarterback Sam Bradford's surgically repaired throwing shoulder.

                                Those plans have been scratched.

                                "At that point, (the shoulder) was such a big question mark," Devaney said Wednesday. "Since then, we've talked to so many people that have looked at him from other teams. And our doctors — they've gone over him with a fine-tooth comb — we're completely satisfied. We don't need a follow-up."

                                Devaney said he and coach Steve Spagnuolo have done some checking on their own over the last several weeks to get medical opinions from other voices. Devaney didn't specify which teams, but Devaney and Spagnuolo have worked with several other teams over the years, and as Devaney put it: "You have friends around the league."

                                Bradford underwent a reconstruction of the AC joint surrounding his shoulder in late October, with the procedure performed by noted orthopedic surgeon James Andrews.

                                "They just went in and with like a nylon braid pretty much put the clavicle (collarbone) back in place and re-secured the joint," Bradford said at the scouting combine.

                                Bradford injured the shoulder twice during the University of Oklahoma's 2009 season.

                                "It was a grade 3 (shoulder) separation," Bradford said.

                                In some cases even after a second separation, surgery isn't required. Rest and rehab can get a shoulder back to health. But in this case, Bradford decided not to take any chances. If he had done nothing but rest and rehab, there might have been even more doubts about the shoulder during the pre-draft process. Having the surgery — and having it performed by Andrews — would lessen those doubts.

                                (In fact, there was an undercurrent at the combine that the injury was so minor, relatively speaking, that some medical officials privately wondered if surgery was even necessary.)

                                But Bradford decided he would be better safe than sorry in choosing surgery.

                                "From what I've heard from doctors, after the second (injury), for my long-term health, if I wanted to continue playing football and get stronger in the weight room, I needed to have the surgery," Bradford said.

                                Before the surgery, Bradford approached San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith for advice.

                                "I know that he had the same procedure by Dr. Andrews," Bradford said. "From what I understand, it was pretty successful. He just told me what to expect from the rehab standpoint. Kind of what he went through when he went through the whole process, trying to decide if he should have surgery or not." ...
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                              • eldfan
                                Is Sam Bradford No. 1? Pro day will show QB's worth to Rams
                                by eldfan
                                By Jim Corbett, USA TODAY

                                When Sam Bradford shows off his surgically repaired throwing shoulder at his March 29 pro day in Norman, Okla., the St. Louis Rams should get a good indication whether the quarterback factors into their plans as the clock ticks toward their first overall pick in the April 22 draft.
                                Rams general manager Billy Devaney, coach Steve Spagnuolo and the Rams staff must decide whether to pull the trigger on the 2008 Heisman Trophy winner from Oklahoma.

                                ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay says the top pick in this year's draft is Bradford's to lose after the quarterback met with Devaney and offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur last week at the Athletes' Performance Institute training facility near Pensacola, Fla.


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                                "Unless something is fundamentally wrong — his throwing motion has changed, if he's not getting nearly as much zip on the ball, if there's something that just jumps out at you and is alarming and creates concern — I don't think his pro day will affect that opportunity to be the No. 1 pick," McShay says. "It's the (Rams') biggest need and the most important position."

                                Defensive tackles Ndamukong Suh of Nebraska and Gerald McCoy of Oklahoma are widely considered the best players in this draft, rare talents at a valued position.

                                But if Bradford proves healthy, he's the best quarterback at the NFL's most critical position. And no matter how good Suh and McCoy appear, a franchise quarterback makes their worth pale.

                                In a quarterback-driven league, the Rams have two designated drivers — banged-up veteran Marc Bulger and perennial backup A.J. Feeley, two potential bridges to whomever they designate as their future.

                                So the pressure is on Bradford to win his pro day and win over the Rams.

                                "Franchise quarterback trumps all," NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock says. "No matter how good you think Suh and McCoy are, if you believe Bradford is a franchise quarterback — and by the way, your building is kind of empty of franchise quarterbacks — Bradford has to be the first discussion.

                                "If the medical question is blessed by their doctors, it makes it easy.

                                "The Rams passed on (Mark) Sanchez and Matt Ryan (in the 2009 and 2008 drafts, respectively). Do they want to pass on another potential franchise quarterback?"

                                What will Spagnuolo be looking for on Bradford's pro day?

                                "I'll be looking for the presence, how he is around teammates because he's in his own setting now," Spagnuolo said. "Then, medically, (assessing) the shoulder. I'll try and grab him early by myself just come away with an overall impression."

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