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  • If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

    Report from Rotoworld:
    According to FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki, Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo would select Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy if the draft was today.
    Spags apparently feels strongly enough about McCoy that the rest of the front office would go along the pick. Fans of Sam Bradford in the organization will have to wait for his pro day in late March to build momentum. If Bradford is able to allay doubts about his shoulder, we still believe the Rams will end up going quarterback at No. 1.

    What Jon Czarnecki actually said on his post:
    If the draft was today, the Rams would select Oklahoma defensive tackle Gerald McCoy because he is the player that head coach Steve Spagnuolo likes better. Fortunately for Rams fans who want a quarterback after passing on Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez the past two Aprils, the team has seven weeks to change Spags’ mind. McCoy’s OU teammate, quarterback Sam Bradford, plans to throw and show off his surgically repaired right shoulder on March 25. A year ago, Bradford was the consensus top quarterback, ahead of Matthew Stafford, but he opted to return to play college football.

    Interesting, but also unsurprising considering the timing. We have heard people talk about Suh going number 1, and about Bradford, but not much about McCoy going there. No surprise to see the Rams make it a definite three horse race and keep people guessing til the draft gets closer. I have heard Mike Mayock's reasons for putting McCoy over Suh, but the two players were tied going in to the combine and Suh did better in almost every drill, so i see no reason to think McCoy is better personally
    @EssexRam_

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    Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

    I will say this for McCoy, he has tons of personality. Always smiling and cracking jokes, he seemed real loose during the combine. Unfortunately for him we aren't drafting a guy for Public Relations, commercials, or halftime shows, we are drafting him to play football. On that note, Steve Spagnuolo forgets more about defensive lineman every time he sleeps then I will ever know in my life, so I'll trust the Ram's decision. That being said, the Rams aren't going to tip their hand as to who they are picking, so yeah, what does this John guy know? Nothing more than you and me.

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      Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

      C-Mob I know what you mean. I have to keep telling myself that they know what they're doing. After the college season ended, I kept hearing about how there was such a clear cut #1.

      I'm not sure whats happened between now and then to change that, but if the Rams do pick McCoy, I believe at least Spags will live and die with that pick. If he passes on both Suh and Bradford, and McCoy isn't the best of the three, I believe it could cost him his job (IMO). It worries me that this is a 3-horse race. Makes it easier to pick the wrong horse...Thanks for posting Tomahawk.

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      • #4
        Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

        Yea in my opinion if you pick McCoy over Suh you are just over thinking the process.

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        • #5
          Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

          This is silly. Czarnecki doesn't offer any reason to believe that he knows Spags' mind. The quote from his blog doesn't say that he heard this from Spags or from a source within the organization or even from an NFL source at all. For all we know, he could be basing this on how much Spags was smiling while each man ran his forty. Rotoworld's speculation that the front office would fall in line is doubly silly because they're making unfounded assumptions on an unsourced claim.

          But why stop there? Given that Czarnecki has read Spags' mind and Rotoworld has read Czarnecki's mind regarding his reading of Spags' mind, I will read Rotoworld's mind and throw out another assertion that is just as credible--Khan is going to compel the team to draft a kicker with the first pick overall because he is a closet ***** fan who wants us to lose, and the bid to buy the team is nothing more than a clever ploy.

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            Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

            Smoooooooke smoke smoke smoke

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            • #7
              Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

              if we pass up on Ndamukong suh we will make the BIGGEST MISTAKE!!! This will come out on one of those Top 10's they feature on NFL network. (Top 10 worst draft misses)
              LA RAMMER

              It's Jim not Chris
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNgqQVHI_8

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                Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

                Originally posted by LA Rammer View Post
                if we pass up on Ndamukong suh we will make the BIGGEST MISTAKE!!! This will come out on one of those Top 10's they feature on NFL network. (Top 10 worst draft misses)
                true you can't pass on a guy that weights over 300 pounds runs a 40 under 5 seconds (way faster than me, and i play basketball for a semi pro team) and had the highest veritcal in 10 years for a dline. plus his 2009 totals were almost identical to the stats it took mccoy 3 years to produce.

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                • #9
                  Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

                  Remember the Eugene Monroe vs Jason Smith debate last year. Monroe was the more proven guy, Smith had more upside. This debate definately isn't on that level, but upside is going to be a huge factor

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                    Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

                    Originally posted by 39thebeast View Post
                    Remember the Eugene Monroe vs Jason Smith debate last year. Monroe was the more proven guy, Smith had more upside. This debate definately isn't on that level, but upside is going to be a huge factor
                    Yeah, and I recall people going berserk on Rams boards during the season Monroe and Smiths comparative performance.

                    -----------------------------------

                    I'd really like to know which rumors are sourced by everybody's favorite Ram consultant and former team President. Those are the ones I can safely ignore.

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                      Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

                      Originally posted by PeoriaRam View Post
                      Yeah, and I recall people going berserk on Rams boards during the season Monroe and Smiths comparative performance.
                      i dont remember seeing any of that on here. Especially didnt see much negative stuff about Smith. He spent a lot of time injured, first with the knee and with the concussion. But i dont remember Smith being benched like Monroe was in week 5.
                      @EssexRam_

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                        Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

                        Originally posted by tomahawk247 View Post
                        Fortunately for Rams fans who want a quarterback after passing on Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez the past two Aprils, the team has seven weeks to change Spags’ mind.
                        Amazing how he and all the other tards who write about this stuff assume that all Rams fans want a QB just because they think we should take one.

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                          Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

                          According to FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki, Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo would select Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy if the draft was today.
                          We here at ClanRam daily strive to bring you, our members, a better message forum to discuss Rams football. To that end, we have installed a new program that we're very excited about.

                          We have scoured the world to find the most advanced technology available. Utilizing laser-guided, nano-machines created from the stem cells of Albert Einstein's cryogenically frozen umbilical cord DNA, our new program is a B.S. detector and filter. By applying our new program to the previous quote, we now have what was really on John Czarnecki's mind when he wrote that line.......
                          Originally posted by Czarnecki's thoughts run through the Crap-o-matic 2010
                          I have absolutely no idea what Coach Spagnuolo is thinking. But I have to write something that will gain attention and make me look like I'm on the inside of the Rams Warroom.
                          There you go. That should straighten it out for everyone.
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                          • #14
                            Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

                            Well I think it's becoming pretty clear...the Rams are trading into the nos. 2 AND 3 spots in addition to the first pick, and selecting Suh, McCoy and Bradford. That way we can please every pundit who has already declared our pick for us.

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                              Re: If draft was today, Rams would apparently select DT McCoy

                              Originally posted by HUbison View Post
                              We here at ClanRam daily strive to bring you, our members, a better message forum to discuss Rams football. To that end, we have installed a new program that we're very excited about.

                              We have scoured the world to find the most advanced technology available. Utilizing laser-guided, nano-machines created from the stem cells of Albert Einstein's cryogenically frozen umbilical cord DNA, our new program is a B.S. detector and filter. By applying our new program to the previous quote, we now have what was really on John Czarnecki's mind when he wrote that line.......There you go. That should straighten it out for everyone.
                              That is exactly right. Czarnecki does not know anything more than any other sportswriter, and the sportswriters really don't know any more than we do at this point. There is no doubt that McCoy is one of the 3 or 4 players the Rams are considering, so he has either a 1/3 or 1/4 chance that his guess will prove to be correct.

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                                McCoy > Bradford?
                                by Guest
                                as per another thread..

                                Quote:
                                Originally Posted by GROUND DOG 39
                                Listening to 101 ESPN St Louis Radio and Trent Dilfer was giving his opinion on this years QB's in the draft. He has watched every snap of Bradford, Colt McCoy and Jimmy Clausen. In fact he has watched all Bradford's career three times.
                                He believes the Rams are making a grave mistake, if they draft Bradford.
                                Colt McCoy is much the better prospect in his eyes, showing the skills, which will much better to translate to the NFL. He believes Bradford will struggle with pressure, be unable to keep plays alive, and struggle with the mental side.
                                He said he is very worried for the Rams and was quite convincing with his points.
                                Is anyone in the same mindset?...

                                Yes 100%. McCoy will be a better NFL QB than Bradford will be. I'm sorry if you are on the Bradford band wagon and put your future Rams success and hopes already in Bradford, but the media and whoever else has blown up Bradford.

                                Why is it when they were playing football still SUH was the number one draft pick hands down? Because he was the best college football player that was playing that had a impact on his team. Now Bradford is? what has changed? Nothing! Media blows things up and changes so many things that it changes peoples mindsets.

                                McCoy and Bradford have both had bad games like any human being has bad games or times, thats a none issue. But what McCoy has to offer has far more upside, he doesn't have that media storm to build up his stock. The people who think he has this great potential aren't saying anything because they want everyone to think he will slip to the 2nd round. Those same people will take him sometime in the mid 1st round.

                                I pray and hope we take BPA SUH as our no.1 pick and we trade up and take McCoy in the first. We get a generation DT and our QB of the future. With great leadership and a will to be the best.

                                Before you respond in negative please open your mind up and think about
                                -04-03-2010, 05:08 PM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                The Value of a Plan B (or... why the Rams are meeting with Colt McCoy)
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                I'm starting to wonder if there might be a parallel between the Rams' situation this year and the one faced by the Texans in 2006.

                                As I recall it, in the weeks leading up to the draft, the Texans were believed by all to be targeting Reggie Bush as the first pick in the draft. Then, when negotiations broke down, they went to their Plan B, Mario Williams (and, of course, it all worked out fairly well for them).

                                Similarly, the Rams are believed by most to be targeting Sam Bradford. I presume that they will be negotiating with his agent soon, if they are not already doing so.

                                In this context, it is necessary to have viable "Plan B." Otherwise, Bradford's agent can take a hard line with the Rams, basically stating "you have no choice but to pay what we ask."

                                Ndamukong Suh, standing alone, is not a viable "Plan B." The reason: nobody is going to buy that the Rams are willing to go to battle next year with Feeley and Null as their top 2 QBs.

                                Add Colt McCoy to the equation, and now you have a viable "Plan B" (Suh in Round 1, McCoy in Round 2).

                                In another thread, I posed the question: why release Bulger now?

                                Perhaps, part of the reason was the possibility that some team that might take McCoy late in Round 2 would instead sign Bulger. Or, if that was not the plan, maybe it could work just work out that way (i.e. maybe the Vikings will sign Bulger to back up Favre rather than considering a QB in Round 1).

                                In any event, I think that, if Bradford and his agent are unreasonable, the Rams have their "Mario Williams" plan in Suh/McCoy.

                                Who knows... Plan B might even become Plan A.
                                -04-06-2010, 10:18 AM
                              • Dominating D
                                Colt McCoy
                                by Dominating D
                                NFL Network reports Rams did not attend Colt pro-day workout. I can only assume that the Rams have no plans to draft a QB in the 2nd round?

                                Looks like Bradford is the only QB on the Rams radar?

                                Anythoughts as to why the Rams did not attend his pro-day workout?

                                Go Rams
                                -04-01-2010, 05:34 AM
                              • xkidflowx
                                Colt Mccoy + Suh..
                                by xkidflowx
                                WHAT IF... we had drafted Suh.. then colt mccoy in the 2nd.. do you think we would have been a better team? because me and my friends had a arguement and me defending bradford. My point was that, Bradford was the best thing that can ever happen to any organziation.

                                their point.. Colt Mccoy is the REAL DEAL and SUH is the real deal....

                                So let me hear your guys thoughts!
                                -11-30-2010, 01:56 PM
                              • Bald_81
                                Mayock calls taking QB #1 a 'big reach'
                                by Bald_81
                                He's basically enforcing what I've thought all along. Unless we trade down, there is no way I can see it being justified if we select a QB with the first overall pick....
                                -01-22-2010, 02:41 PM
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