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  • 10 Random Trade/Free Agency Thoughts

    1. There is a lot of talk today about what will happen with O.J. Atogwe. In my opinion, he's a player who should be retained, but not at all costs. If the Rams do let him go, however, it MUST be with some compensation.

    2. I don't think we'll hear much about Marc Bulger's status for a while, as I doubt the Rams will make any moves for a starting QB in the near future.

    3. The restricted free agency system is unfair to teams with bad records. If the Saints want to sign a player with a second round tender, they only have to give up the 64th pick in the draft. To get the same player, the Rams would have to give up the 33rd pick. I think the system should be that the signing team should have to give up their highest pick (assuming they have one at least in the next round) following the old team's pick in the tender level round. For example, if the Rams sign a player (with a Round 2 tender) from a team with the 60th pick, the compensation should be the Rams' next highest pick (the 65th pick), even though its in the third round.

    4. One RFA I'd consider giving up a pick for is Richard Marshall (CB, Carolina). He has a round 2 price tag. I wouldn't give the 33rd pick, but if a sign and trade deal for pick #65 could be worked out, I'd consider it.

    5. I sure hope some team comes forward and makes an offer for Alex Barron, but I'm not expecting it to happen.

    6. I'm glad that Victor Adeyanju worked his way out of the doghouse and has been tendered. That said, could another team give up a Round 4 pick for him? I'd say its possible.

    7. For all the draft choice failures, Clifton Ryan is a success story. For a former late round pick to get a Round 2 tender, there must be some recognition of his progress. I, for one, am glad we have that guy on the roster.

    8. I find it interesting when people argue that a bad team can't sign good players. While that may be true of older guys looking for their last shot at the Super Bowl, I think in most cases it comes down to money, location, and connections with the coaching staff.

    9. While I previously stated my top UFA target is Karlos Dansby, from a positional standpoint, DE may be the best place to start in the FA market.
    The Rams need an established pass rusher, and there are a few on the market.

    10. Aside from Julius Peppers, I'm not sure that any real "A list" players will change teams this year.

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  • AvengerRam_old
    I think the Rams should consider trading their first round pick...
    by AvengerRam_old
    ... their 2009 first round pick, that is.

    Here's my thinking...

    The Rams have a lot of needs, and this is a pretty deep draft. If they were to offer their 2009 first round pick for a pick in the 20-30 range of the first round (the other team doing so on the hope that they would end up with a much higher pick next year), they could fill a lot of needs without having to dip into free agency.

    For example, how about a scenario in which the Rams can get Jake Long (Rd. 1A), Derrick Harvey (Rd. 1B), Josh Barrett (Rd. 2), and Donnie Avery (Rd. 3)?
    -02-26-2008, 01:56 PM
  • richtree
    What would be the best way to get another pick in the first 3 rounds?
    by richtree
    Obviously, the Rams have needs. Without trading the #1 pick, what other way can the Rams get another Pick in the top 3 rounds?

    We have picks 1, 33, 65. This draft is so deep I am hoping we can get another pick somewhere in the 20-40 range.

    Lets say we did get 5 picks and could add:

    N. Suh

    Tony Pike or Dan LeFevour (prefer Pike)

    Sean Weatherspoon

    Danario Alexander

    Dexter McCluster


    If we could trade from pick #1 that would be great but seems unlikely right now, but adding 2 picks in top 3 rounds could turn the team into and a solid ball club with play makers.

    In round 4-7 we could draft a OG, TE, DE, CB and still go after guys like

    Vick, Scheffler, and DE/OL help in free agency.

    I think our best chance to turn around the Rams is to do it this season while Warner leaves, a new coach in Seattle, and before the ***** put it all together.

    Do most people agree we need another pick?

    Do we have any tradable pieces to help get a pick?

    I would even go as far as trading a 2nd rounder to get 2 guys we love this year.

    Say we get Suh -- and trade back up to get PIKE and Alexander or PIke and Weatherspoon.

    We have great opportunity this off-season to turn the franchise around.
    Trade up get it done this season even if we have to give up a pick next season in round 2.

    This is one of the deepest drafts in years and I don't see this depth coming back for many seasons. Espccially where those 5 guys above are potentially available at later picks for a cheaper price.
    -01-28-2010, 03:13 PM
  • AvengerRam_old
    Don't Turn Off Your TV After Pick #35
    by AvengerRam_old
    I think it would be a mistake to assume that the Rams will be done for the day after they make their second round pick (#35 overall) on Saturday. In fact, I'd place good odds on the Rams trying to move up to get a second pick in Round 2.

    According to the Trade Value Chart, a package of the Rams 3rd Round pick (#66) and their 4th round pick (#103) would be sufficient to move up to pick number 55 or 56 in Round 2. A package of their 3rd round pick and 5th Round pick would be equivalent to obtain pick number 61 or 62.

    If the Rams have their eyes set on a guy who is still there around the 50th pick, they will likely start working the phones. I think a lot of teams would be happy to get an extra selection, so there could be a number of takers.

    Don't touch that dial!
    -04-21-2009, 09:45 AM
  • AvengerRam_old
    Forget about trading down. The Rams should be thinking about trading up.
    by AvengerRam_old
    In a previous thread, I noted that the Rams will have few (if any) viable options for trading out of the second pick of the draft. In my opinion, that should not even be the focus. Instead, the Rams should be thinking about trading up.

    Trading up from pick #2 to pick #1? No. The Rams should be thinking about trading up from their second round pick (#35) into the late first round of the draft. In fact, I think they are already thinking about just that.

    Based upon the the trade value chart, if the Rams packaged their second round pick (#35) with any third round selection, the value would be equal to a first round pick ranging from selection number 21 through 32 (depending on how late in the round the third round pick would be).

    I would not want the Rams to limit themselves to only two total selections in the first three rounds of the draft. However, if the Rams can trade Holt, Pace or even Little for a third round pick, the result could be very beneficial.

    First, you can't discount the cap room gained by such a trade, particularly if it involves Holt or Pace. If a trade up from pick #35, made in exchange for the that pick and a third round selection acquired for Pace/Holt/Little, the Rams would then have two first rounders (#2, #21-32) and their current third round pick (#66).

    This opens up some very intriguing possibilities.

    For example, if the Rams have a pick in the 20s, they could afford to consider taking Aaron Curry, B.J. Raji or Michael Crabtree at #2, knowing that there is a good chance that a quality OT is likely to still be available in the late first round.

    Or, they could take Eugene Monroe at #2, and use the late first round selection to go for a WR (i.e. Heyward-Bey), a MLB (i.e. Laurinaitis), or even a QB if a guy like Sanchez drops to that point in the first round.

    In this scenario, they would still have a high third rounder as well, which could be used to fill another need, or packaged with a later pick to get back in Round 2.

    The more I look at this draft class, the more I think there will be some real quality in the late first round. If the Rams can get a pick in that range, and still stay at #2, they can make great strides on draft day.
    -02-13-2009, 01:12 PM
  • AvengerRam_old
    Pick #14 Puts Rams in Perfect Trading Position
    by AvengerRam_old
    As of now, my "Plan A" for the first round of the draft remains the same. A.J. Green will be gone, but if either Julio Jones or Justin Blackmon (if he declares) is available, I think the Rams can fill their biggest need while also adhering to a BPA philosophy.

    But what if Blackmon returns to OSU (seems to be leaning that way) and Jones is already gone?

    "Plan B" may very well be a trade down for extra picks.

    There are a couple of reasons why this would make sense.

    First, unlike the last three years, when the Rams selected 2nd, 2nd and 1st, the 14th pick is an attractive trade target. It is high enough to obtain a potentially elite player (though perhaps not at a position the Rams might need, i.e. QB, OT), but low enough that it would not force a team to pay outrageous (i.e. Top 10) money to a rookie.

    Second, if the Rams can't get one of the "Big 3" WRs, the next tier at that position will likely be rated as players who should go in the pick 25-50 range (i.e. Jonathan Baldwin, Leonard Hankerson, Greg Little).

    Possible trade partners?

    There's New England, which has their first pick (which will be between 29-32) and the first pick in the second round.

    There's also Denver, which has the 4th and 14th picks of the second round.

    Either of these teams could offer a package that would be fairly even under the "Trade Value Chart." In fact, any team willing to offer a late first round pick and a second round (perhaps enhanced by a "day 3" pick) could offer a reasonable package.

    This will be new territory for Devaney and Co., as they have not made any major draft day trades.

    This could be the year it happens.
    -01-12-2011, 08:22 AM
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