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    I was hesitant to break out my crystal ball before the start of free agency because I needed a little more time and information to predict anything. However, I now believe Sam Bradford is a lock to be the first name called on April 22nd. For all I know, we could trade for Michael Vick in the next four days or have a draft day trade with Philadelphia but I don't really see either happening.

    The signing of A.J. Feeley speaks volumes. Why? I'll tell you. It's easy to rationalize by Devaney and Co. because all it looks like is a replacement for Kyle Boller. He is a perfect fit here because he has great knowledge of Shurmur's offense and worked with him in Philadelphia. I think this is exactly why we haven't cut Bulger yet. If we go into mini camps prior to the draft with Bulger and Feeley, it doesn't fully tip our hand towards what we are going to do with the #1 pick. It buys Devaney time to say we're evaluating our quarterbacks and we'll see who emerges as the starter. If they were to release Bulger today, we would only have Feeley, Null, and Reilly on the roster. At least if we keep Bulger, it wouldn't look painfully obvious that we are taking Bradford.

    I believe the plan of action is as follows: We enter mini camps with Bulger, Feeley, and Null fighting for the starting job. Spagnuolo does his usual "we already know Marc and we've seen Keith a little bit last year" routine when explaining how he's going to go about figuring out the position. Then, on April 22nd, we draft Sam Bradford first overall. The other up side of keeping Bulger on the roster until then is leverage in negotiations because there is the threat we can easily take Suh/McCoy and just go another year with Bulger as our QB. Suh/McCoy would both fall in slots two and three, where as Bradford would take a hit falling to number four. That would help us immensely in terms of getting a contract done before the draft. Afterwards, we shop Bulger around and see if we can get anything. If not, we release him soon afterwards. Feeley enters the season as the starter, lasts six-eight games, and the Bradford era begins.

    The only big hurdle keeping this from happening right now is how Bradford performs at his pro day. However, from everything I've read about the combine and his shoulder everything came back well and teams were satisfied with his progress. I can't say I agree totally with the pick, but I definitely see the logic and reasoning behind it. As of right now, I don't see anyway Sam's not a Ram on April 22nd. Not my preferred choice, but as always I'll stand behind the decision.

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    Re: I believe Bradford is now a lock to go first overall

    If spags wasn't our coach maybe, but I can't see our D-line driven coach letting suh go threw his fingers.. Even if he doesn't have all the control I don't think it will happen

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    • #3
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      Good post Bald. I tend to agree with your thinking. Devaney is a good poker player who holds his cards until it's the right time to play them. I would add that this adds some trade incentive to some teams who may be willing to move into the top pick. The conspiracy theory lives on!

      Go Rams!

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      • #4
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        The more I think about it, the less I'm sure Bradford's the pick. My gut feeling at first was that he was, but $3 million a year is an awful lot to spend on your backup QB, especially if you take Bradford in the first round, since he'll command $7-$8 million before incentives.

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          If the question is whether we are starting Bulger or Feeley for 8 games, why wouldn't we start Bulger?
          Feeley has been a backup most of his career. I don't think they're bringing him in to start the first part of the season. If they plan on starting Bradford right away, it makes more sense. Then you have a solid backup for Bradford in his rookie year. But I really DO think this was just a replacement for Boller, so if the goal was to fool other teams they definitely fooled me. I just think that if my job was on the line, I would not put it in the hands of Feeley for half the season.

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            Originally posted by PeoriaRam View Post
            The more I think about it, the less I'm sure Bradford's the pick. My gut feeling at first was that he was, but $3 million a year is an awful lot to spend on your backup QB, especially if you take Bradford in the first round, since he'll command $7-$8 million before incentives.
            Bradford will be $10-11 million per year (roughly). Marc Bulger is pretty much at $10.5 million right now. Not far off a straight exchange.

            And $3 million is the rumored average for the contract. No word on how the 2 seasons are broken down or guaranteed money. My guess is it's structured so that he's paid very close to how Boller was paid last year and he'll be cut after one season.

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              Re: I believe Bradford is now a lock to go first overall

              Bradford's worth our 1st round pick if we trade our 1st pick of the draft to either Tampa or Detroit.


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                Re: I believe Bradford is now a lock to go first overall

                Originally posted by BigGameTH View Post
                If the question is whether we are starting Bulger or Feeley for 8 games, why wouldn't we start Bulger?
                Feeley has been a backup most of his career. I don't think they're bringing him in to start the first part of the season. If they plan on starting Bradford right away, it makes more sense. Then you have a solid backup for Bradford in his rookie year. But I really DO think this was just a replacement for Boller, so if the goal was to fool other teams they definitely fooled me. I just think that if my job was on the line, I would not put it in the hands of Feeley for half the season.
                If they draft Bradford, what makes you think the plan is for AJ Feeley to ever see the field? Sanchez, Stafford, Ryan and Flacco all started week 1. So you'd put 8-10% of your entire salary budget on the bench as a backup?

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                  Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                  Bradford will be $10-11 million per year (roughly). Marc Bulger is pretty much at $10.5 million right now. Not far off a straight exchange.

                  And $3 million is the rumored average for the contract. No word on how the 2 seasons are broken down or guaranteed money. My guess is it's structured so that he's paid very close to how Boller was paid last year and he'll be cut after one season.
                  Feeley's not going to be so dumb as to sign a heavily back-loaded deal. Our intentions would be way too transparent if we offered one of those.

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                    Originally posted by PeoriaRam View Post
                    Feeley's not going to be so dumb as to sign a heavily back-loaded deal. Our intentions would be way too transparent if we offered one of those.
                    He's a career backup who ended up being the #3 QB in Carolina at 30 years of age. He hasn't been in an actual game since 2007 and has something like 5 starts in his career (I think that's what I heard)? How many deals do you think he was expecting to receive?

                    Boller signed a 1 year deal last year and everyone expects 2011 to be a lockout seasons. So effectively, it's a 1 year deal anyway.

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                      Re: I believe Bradford is now a lock to go first overall

                      Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                      He's a career backup who ended up being the #3 QB in Carolina at 30 years of age. He hasn't been in an actual game since 2007 and has something like 5 starts in his career (I think that's what I heard)? How many deals do you think he was expecting to receive?

                      Boller signed a 1 year deal last year and everyone expects 2011 to be a lockout seasons. So effectively, it's a 1 year deal anyway.
                      Based on my recollection of the NHL when they nuked that season a couple of years ago, the players did not "lose" that year on their contract.

                      And I'm sorry, nothing about this contract makes sense if we assume "backup" in 2010, followed by cut. Why give him the extra year in the first place? Why go spectacularly over the top at any point in the contract? This does not compute.

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                      • #12
                        Re: I believe Bradford is now a lock to go first overall

                        Are you unaware the players routinely sign back loaded contracts because it sounds better? Is this something you've never heard of?

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                          Re: I believe Bradford is now a lock to go first overall

                          Originally posted by Bald_81 View Post
                          I believe the plan of action is as follows: We enter mini camps with Bulger, Feeley, and Null fighting for the starting job. Spagnuolo does his usual "we already know Marc and we've seen Keith a little bit last year" routine when explaining how he's going to go about figuring out the position. Then, on April 22nd, we draft Sam Bradford first overall. The other up side of keeping Bulger on the roster until then is leverage in negotiations because there is the threat we can easily take Suh/McCoy and just go another year with Bulger as our QB. Suh/McCoy would both fall in slots two and three, where as Bradford would take a hit falling to number four. That would help us immensely in terms of getting a contract done before the draft. Afterwards, we shop Bulger around and see if we can get anything. If not, we release him soon afterwards. Feeley enters the season as the starter, lasts six-eight games, and the Bradford era begins.
                          Overall I think you're right regarding how it will play out, as the Rams gain nothing by releasing Bulger now. If they keep him, they can continue to maintain that they don't have to take a QB.

                          The only thing I'd add is that if the Rams try to shop Bulger after drafting Bradford, the only response I think they'll get is the sound of silence. I'm just not sure what team is going to trade for Bulger after the Rams draft Bradford, because by then, the writing will be on the wall and they'll just wait for him to be cut. Which benefits them because they don't have to take on his contract.

                          Originally posted by PeoriaRam View Post
                          The more I think about it, the less I'm sure Bradford's the pick. My gut feeling at first was that he was, but $3 million a year is an awful lot to spend on your backup QB, especially if you take Bradford in the first round, since he'll command $7-$8 million before incentives.
                          Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                          Bradford will be $10-11 million per year (roughly). Marc Bulger is pretty much at $10.5 million right now. Not far off a straight exchange.
                          Stafford's deal as the top pick last year was $72 million over six years, which averages to $12 million a year. So, being picked first overall a year later means Bradford's contract will in all likelihood average more.

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                            Re: I believe Bradford is now a lock to go first overall

                            Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                            Are you unaware the players routinely sign back loaded contracts because it sounds better? Is this something you've never heard of?
                            Two year long backloaded contracts? Without renegotiation? With a team that has a fairly naked intention of not honoring final years of the contracts? At what point does the agent step in and say "no."

                            Also, wouldn't there end up being a larger cap hit if we backloaded the contract and the NFL somehow reinstated it?

                            A backloaded contract, at least one to the scale that would make Feeley's current salary palatable for a backup, doesn't make sense at all.

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                              Re: I believe Bradford is now a lock to go first overall

                              Originally posted by PeoriaRam View Post
                              Also, wouldn't there end up being a larger cap hit if we backloaded the contract and the NFL somehow reinstated it?

                              A backloaded contract, at least one to the scale that would make Feeley's current salary palatable for a backup, doesn't make sense at all.
                              You have absolutely no idea how contracts versus the salary cap works do you? Tell me, if he's due $4 million next year and the Rams cut him, what's his cap hit if there isn't a signing bonus?

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                              • RockinRam
                                For vs. Against Drafting Bradford Articles
                                by RockinRam
                                Found this on BleacherReport. The second article written by Meily is a response to Hughes' article.

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                              • sonnyjames
                                Does Bulger being cut make Bradford MORE or LESS likely, in your opinion?
                                by sonnyjames
                                My first reaction was that this meant Bradford was nailed on...but I've had a nagging question (like others) that the timing *might* have something to do with McNabb going to Washington and Campbell being up for grabs. Trading for Campbell would allow us to get Suh...or do we go for the guy some think can be our face for the future?

                                I'd still prefer Suh, personally. I think whoever plays at QB is gonna take a lot of hits until our O is strengthened. Certainly wouldn't want to see the rookie in there, but the alternatives (currently) aren't huge. I do think it all points to Bradford, but I'm not sure he'd be my #1 choice.
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                              • RockinRam
                                Rams rookie QB Bradford staying grounded as he learns the ropes
                                by RockinRam
                                By Steve Wyche

                                ST. LOUIS -- The about face is radical.
                                Before the April 22 draft, the mention of Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford as the Rams' savior drew ire and scorn -- seriously. Supporters of this woebegone franchise wanted no part of him, even though they were exasperated with oft-injured veteran Marc Bulger. To them, Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh was the answer, not a shotgun quarterback who barely played last season because of a shoulder injury.
                                The Rams, 1-15 last season, wisely paid no attention to public sentiment and selected the quarterback they desperately needed with the first overall pick. Since then, sentiment has flipped. The tall, strong-armed kid from Oklahoma who shares a lot of the same Midwestern values as the people here is nearing folk-hero status before he's even played a game. Bradford drew a standing ovation when he recently threw out the first pitch at a Cardinals game.


                                In this town, that's a huge deal.
                                Bradford isn't quite comfortable with the adoration or attention, especially when he's around his teammates who've actually taken snaps in the NFL. During a recent building of a playground at a needy neighborhood school, Bradford denied media requests for interviews because he didn't want to upstage his teammates, telling reporters to speak to players like current/temporary starting quarterback A.J. Feeley instead. Smart move.


                                "That's something that I am conscious about," Bradford said in an exclusive interview. "I understand that being the No. 1 draft pick is a huge honor, but I also realize I haven't done anything yet at the pro level. I have a long way to go before I am where I want to be. I have to put in so much work to get there.
                                "Being a rookie quarterback you do have to have confidence in yourself and be able to walk into the huddle and take command. The guys who are on the field with you have to believe in you. There's a little bit of a balancing act, and I'm trying to do it the best I can."
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                                "He's everything and little bit more," coach Steve Spagnuolo said. "He's got a long way to go. This thing's a process. He's been terrific with it. He's the ultimate team guy. He is singled out a lot because of what he means and where he was picked, but he always asks, 'Can I do it with the other rookies?' He gets that part of it, which is huge. This is all about team; it won't be about one person."

                                Here's where the real message kicks in:
                                "But in this league," Spagnuolo said, "the focus is on the quarterback, and he understands that."
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                                -06-15-2010, 10:20 PM
                              • RockinRam
                                Why I think Sam Bradford should be our guy
                                by RockinRam




                                First off, I am not an Oklahoma Sooner fan. On the contrary, I am a UT (Texas) fan, which makes it quite of a surprise that I like Bradford so much.



                                Now let's get down to business.


                                In this opinionated argument, I'm not going to harp on Suh. I'm going to stay closely to Bradford.

                                Okay, first point.

                                Devaney and Spags are trying to remake this franchise into their own philosophy and dynasty. In order to do that, they need a "fresh" start. And by fresh start it means setting the future for the most important position the field. The QB. In this perspective, ignoring everything else, Sam Bradford comes in to this team giving the Rams a new identity. It's the start of a new decade, and it should be the start of a new decade of Ram's football. We ended the last decade on a horrible note, stats wise, and it's time to start anew. Bradford coming in gives us that fresh start. No matter what people say about Suh, a fresh QB gives fans and the organization a much needed rejuvinator than a DT would ever give.


                                Second point

                                We are trying to run a West Coast Offense. And by what that means, we are not going to be consistently running huge pass plays, pass plays that require 50 yard bombs. We are running a timing offense, backed by a ground and pound running game led by Steven Jackson.

                                And Sam Bradford would excel in our offense. Why you ask?

                                Because,

                                1) Bradford excels in the short and medium pass routes. His accuracy in these departments are spot-on elite, and he has enough zip to be solid in the WCO.

                                2) He knows how to develop timing with his receivers. That is why the 2008 Oklahoma offense was so prolific. Bradford's timing with his receivers was insane. He is an amazingly smart QB who has great touch, feel, and timing to win in the NFL.

                                That is why he would succeed in our offense. A WCO is based on timing between the QB and WR, and Bradford would wreck havoc once he gets the timing down with our young WR's.


                                Third point

                                More of why Bradford is a close to perfect fit for our scheme.

                                Bradford is not a gun-slinger. That's been determined. He has above average arm strength, but he is by no means a Derek Anderson-Jamarcus Russell type QB.

                                But that's better for Bradford. You know why?

                                Because I would take a precision QB over a gun-slinging QB anyday of the week.


                                Let's compare Bradford and other similar QB's (For example a young Marc Bulger) to a sniper. A sniper is patient, he doesn't make foolish decisions. He intelligently picks his target, and once he does, he delivers to his target with precision and timing. Snipers excel.

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                                -03-25-2010, 08:22 PM
                              • dave626
                                What about keeping Bulger as a starter
                                by dave626
                                I am not in any shape form or fashion a Bulger fan, however if we keep him as the starter for 1 more year and let Bradford (assuming and hoping we draft him) stand next to Feely for a year and absorb what he can from both of them I think may, in the long run, benefit Bradford a great deal.

                                I dont think throwing Bradford or any other QB out there in the first year is the way to go no matter where they are drafted, I would much prefer a mentoring situation to be there, and to increase his chances of holding a clipboard his first year we would have 2 QBs in front of him, and at this point I still think Bulger would give us our best chance to win in 2010.

                                Null could be on the PS for a year and bring him up next year after Bulger moves on, as the 2nd or 3rd QB.

                                Bulger will probably go down at some point during the season and while Feely is playing Bradford could be learning from Bulger on the sidelines instead of Null, and come next year we have our QB and are in a much better position to take the BPA. In this draft I think we have to address the QB with the first pick, I believe the drop off in talant is just to great to wait until the 2nd or 3rd round.

                                So let me know what you guys think, who knows maybe thats the reason Bulger is still on the roster with a starters contract.
                                -03-20-2010, 02:32 PM
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