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    Are Detroit still in the game for one of the DT's?

    I was just thinking with the upgrades Detroit have done on their D-line so fare is Detroit still in for McCoy or Suh? They really need a OT to protect their QB this year.

    Should we risk it and swap picks with Redskins? They get Bradford with the nr 1 and we get Suh or McCoy (I think Bucs will take Suh) with the nr 4 pick? and some extra picks for us?
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    Re: Are Detroit still in the game for one of the DT's?

    if the Skins came calling with an acceptable trade package..then even if i knew beforehand it meant Bradford,Suh & McCoy being off the boards when we pick..id still give it serious consideration..and look towards Clausen,Bryant or Berry..or even trade down again and get extra picks..i wouldnt trade outside of the top 10 tho.

    just like our situation tho..i dont think the new addition/s on our respective D-lines completely rules out us going Suh & McCoy with the first two picks.

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    • #3
      Re: Are Detroit still in the game for one of the DT's?

      they haven't done much with their D-line.. the got vanden-bosch which will get double teamed, just like Chris Long. they probly will go for one of those beast DT's so that they can get some better pressure.

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      • #4
        Re: Are Detroit still in the game for one of the DT's?

        They also signed DT Grady Jackson

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        • #5
          Re: Are Detroit still in the game for one of the DT's?

          I think they could still go OT since anything is possible, but as horrible as they were on Defense, I think they have to go w/ either Suh or McCoy they literally got gashed against the run last year....but wait so did we yet so many want us to take a QB this year.

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          • #6
            Re: Are Detroit still in the game for one of the DT's?

            Originally posted by clarasDK View Post
            They also signed DT Grady Jackson
            Actually they cut Grady Jackson. They traded with the Browns to get Corey Williams.

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            • #7
              Re: Are Detroit still in the game for one of the DT's?

              Originally posted by ManofGod View Post
              I think they could still go OT since anything is possible, but as horrible as they were on Defense, I think they have to go w/ either Suh or McCoy they literally got gashed against the run last year....but wait so did we yet so many want us to take a QB this year.
              well 2 years ago the Lions got gashed in the run and they took a QB, so why don't we? not saying that I want any of these QB's over Suh...

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              • #8
                Re: Are Detroit still in the game for one of the DT's?

                Originally posted by cfh128 View Post
                Actually they cut Grady Jackson. They traded with the Browns to get Corey Williams.
                Yea sorry my bad got it mixed up.

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                  I think the Rams will draft Suh at no. 1, but wont necessarily keep him...
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                  So if the Rams do trade down with Tampa before the first pick is made, a team like Washington could easily switch with Detroit and steal the QB the Rams are after. That would leave the Rams in quandary as they would presumably then take someone like Gerald McCoy. Who while still a good DT, wasnt one of the guys they wanted.

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