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    I'm curious as it looks like, for the most part, people think it will be either Suh or Bradford. My question is what would you expect from them? If we draft Suh what kind of season do you think he would have? Same question with Bradford.

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    Re: What would you expect?

    I'm pretty sure if we get Suh he won't be that big in stats himself, Long will start getting more sacks/pressure because Suh will have double teamed, our secondary will start getting better because of the extra pressure on the QB, etc...... Bradford, I can't tell you what I expect out of him right now until we get some weapons in the draft for him.

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      Re: What would you expect?

      Originally posted by CanadianRamsFan View Post
      I'm curious as it looks like, for the most part, people think it will be either Suh or Bradford. My question is what would you expect from them? If we draft Suh what kind of season do you think he would have? Same question with Bradford.
      Suh will get plugged in right away, and will get multiple TFL because everyone will still be double teaming ling until he proves himself, I dont think he comes in and puts up great sack numbers, he probably has to adjust to the NFL level a little bit.


      Bradford on the other hand will sit the bench until at the very very least, the bye week.(I hope) Sitting a QB gives him a good time to adjust to the Speed of the game and time to learn the playbook and build a rhythm with receivers.

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      • HUbison
        My final take on Bradford vs. Suh.
        by HUbison
        These thoughts will not change over the next month.......assuming neither of them molests a goat or some such thing. Here's a few things that I think will happen over the next decade (barring injury or end-of-the-world type stuff):

        Bradford will be a very good QB.

        Suh will be an elite DT.

        With Suh, the Rams defense will show serious improvement, including better ypa in the rush D, and more pressure on the QB. The offense won't change all that much.

        With Bradford, the Rams offense will show some improvement, but will require improvements to the receiving corp to make any large steps forward. The defense won't change much at all.




        I understand the QB choice. I do, I get it. And Bradford will be a really solid QB. He'll show it on his pro day; he'll make crisp accurate passes, he'll dazzle in interviews, he will demonstrate to franchises that he is an intelligent, articulate young man with all the intangibles you'd ever want.

        But he won't be the player that Suh will be.

        Bradford will walk into Rams Park, and on the practice field, he will make everyone believe that scientists cloned Phillip Rivers and Kurt Warner, combined the DNA, and out popped Sammy.

        But he won't raise the offense the way that Suh will raise the defense.

        With Bradford, his success will rely on other pieces. Will the receivers be able to separate so that his amazing accuracy can be demonstrated? Will the line protect him the way that his Oklahoma line (manned by 5 NFL lineman in 2008) protected him?

        With Suh, his success will not be as dependent on those around him. Rather the opposite. The DEs will see more lanes as Suh occupies the interior. Same for blitzers. The DBs will look better as pockets collapse and QBs have to rush passes.

        Bradford will be good.......but every draft has a "Bradford".
        Suh will be great........and there may be one "Suh" a decade. (Not my words, by the way.)

        So do we draft a Bradford, then wait a decade for the next Suh?
        Or do we draft Suh, and pick up next year's Bradford?



        Look, I'm not saying Bradford isn't worth the #1 pick......if Suh weren't in it. Take Suh out of the draft, and Bradford is the #1 pick (though McCoy fans would have their valid points as well). So, no, I'm not going to complain about drafting Bradford at #1. In any ordinary year, he is a #1 pick.

        I'm just saying that with Suh available, this isn't an "ordinary" year.

        I'm sure Bradford will do fine. But I would be lying if I said his long-term health isn't a concern. The Rams have protected their QB with a sack % of 7.5% to 8.0% over the past few years. But he's coming from an offense that protected him with a sack % of 2.7%. And even then (as Nick has pointed out),...
        -03-12-2010, 11:33 AM
      • Bing69
        I still want Suh over Bradford
        by Bing69
        I know ill get bashed for this but i really think Suh would be the better choice as the no.1 pick. Now that Carriker is gone, we can forget about that 'we've made 2 high defensive picks in the last 3 years,we have to draft Bradford ahhhhhh' thing. We only have Long now.

        Lets think about our defensive line

        Long Ryan Robbins Little? Hall

        That line aint gonna do very well now is it. Especially if Little doesnt come back. Now if we draft Suh it will look like this

        Long Ryan/Robbins Suh Little?Hall

        Already looks more solid. Now what if we trade for Osi

        Osi Ryan/Robbins Suh Long

        That line looks like it could cause trouble.

        If we draft Bradford, sure the offense would improve slightly, or it could be just a dire. I understand the logic of picking Bradford, give us hope, a new face for the franchise etc. but Jackson is the face of our franchise. Maybe McCoy will be a wonderful hit (if we draft him)

        This is just how i feel, and i can say honestly if we pick Bradford tomorrow i will not be happy! But i will support the lad, and hope he brings the business. I just want us to shun the media and experts by taking Suh and continue to build a good , talented, young base which will put in a good position for years to come
        -04-21-2010, 07:58 AM
      • jerseyramsfan
        Bradford of Suh ?
        by jerseyramsfan
        After last season I wanted the Rams to finish near the bottom to have a shot at Sam Bradford. Well now a year later my wish for a franchise QB is a reality. But all I've been hearing about is how Suh is the best DT to come out in decades. Man now I'm really torn. Lets get some discussion going between the two players...
        -01-03-2010, 03:17 PM
      • ramhard
        Bradford vs. Suh
        by ramhard
        I think this season is a great example of how drafting is as much about fit as it is about talent. There was a heavy debate on Suh vs. Bradford. Both are having great years so far. Suh has been downright amazing, and from a stat perspective, you could even argue that Suh is having a better rookie year at DT (he is a leader in many DT stats - e.g. 8th in league in sacks, leading all DT's in sacks, 1 interception and 1 fumble recovery for a TD as a DT), than Bradford is having at QB. Yet, the choice of Bradford was best for the Rams and Suh will be a beast for the Lions for years to come.
        -11-01-2010, 11:01 AM
      • turbofargo
        No stopping the Suh express
        by turbofargo
        I see us getting Bradford, but there is an article on Suh over at espn, and man do I want this kid on our team. Character, physical traits, a winner, never ever satisfied with his skill set. I would be doing cartwheels if we called his name in April!!!
        -03-24-2010, 11:50 AM
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