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    Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

    Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford reportedly scored an impressive 36 on the Wonderlic Test.

    For comparison, Matt Ryan scored a 32 in 2008. Florida QB Tim Tebow had a 22 the 50-question test, and was outdone by both Colt McCoy of Texas (25) and Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen (23). None of the scores are close to the red-flag range. Bradford's might have helped his draft stock slightly. Mar. 10 - 1:07 pm et

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    If i remember right, didnt VY have a 7? haha
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    Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

    Bradfor ?! You might want to fix that thread title typo unless you want to get grief for spelling a guy's name wrong in a post about an IQ test...lol..

    That is an impressive score but is it really that important? Marino famously sucked at the Wonderlic & our own Paper Lion, Ryan Fitzpatrick, scored a 48 & completed the test in about ten minutes, if I remember correctly.

    I always found it interesting that OTs often get the highest scores. So much for the big dumb "Mungo" stereotype.

    Unless they change the overtime rules to include a sudden death multiple choice test, I'm not sure that an exceptionally high Wonderlic helps much. Anything above 20 is fine.

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      Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

      That's a very impressive number.

      If I remember correctly, Mario Manningham scored a 6 when he took his, but in his defense he has a tricky last name.

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        Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

        If you are a bus driver, three kids get on, ten get off, what are the names of the parents of the kids whose best friends were on the bus before 8:00 am, but not still on it at 8:15 am?

        Ok so maybe that wasn't directly pulled from the test, but the wonderlick imho, is the biggest joke of any one of the pre draft evaluation tools.

        I want my football players to be good at football, not good at figuring out riddles and math patterns.

        That being said, i realize what the wonderlick is trying to do, figure out if you can think on your toes and be a problem solver. I just think that there are better ways to do it. Though it is comforting to note that Bradford isnt a dummy, but a better reflection of that is his straight A's in college, and his ability to play the cello, not doing good on this joke of a test.
        Last edited by C-Mob 71; -03-10-2010, 12:29 PM.

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          Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

          Originally posted by Azul e Oro View Post
          That is an impressive score but is it really that important? Marino famously sucked at the Wonderlic & our own Paper Lion, Ryan Fitzpatrick, scored a 48 & completed the test in about ten minutes, if I remember correctly.
          I think this puts the wonderlic test in proper perspective. Marino scored a 16 by the way.

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            Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

            cmob, i appreciate your perspective that the test is a joke. We have used it in business in the employment context for years. it is NOT a joke. Like any other test, its not intended to be perfect or outcome determinative. However, it is helpful and shockingly reliable in many areas. The test is not as easy as you think.

            In addition, play football and thinking on your feet (especially at the qb position) are not mutually exclusive. Personally, i think this test is an awful lot more relevant to success than how high a qb can jump or how fast an offensive lineman can run the 40 yard dash.

            ramming speed to all

            general counsel

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              Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

              This does speak well of Bradford's mental agility. Which is rather important when you'll have to shuffle through checkdowns very quickly thanks to our collapsing line and bad wideouts.

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                Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

                Originally posted by general counsel View Post
                cmob, i appreciate your perspective that the test is a joke. We have used it in business in the employment context for years. it is NOT a joke. Like any other test, its not intended to be perfect or outcome determinative. However, it is helpful and shockingly reliable in many areas. The test is not as easy as you think.

                In addition, play football and thinking on your feet (especially at the qb position) are not mutually exclusive. Personally, i think this test is an awful lot more relevant to success than how high a qb can jump or how fast an offensive lineman can run the 40 yard dash.

                ramming speed to all

                general counsel
                By no means do I think the wonderlic is easy, I just don't see what it has to do with being a good football player is all. Much like how a vertical tells you nothing about how good of a QB you are.

                You did point out to me that it is more of a measure of success off the field. We don't want to draft anyone who is unintelligent and will cause problems or get into trouble off the field. I suppose it is just another tool in our talent evaluators' toolbox, I just don't think it should be the end all, which of course it is not.

                So... the wonderlic tells us if they are a smart person, and smart people usually are more successful in this world. I can buy that.

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                  Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

                  While I'd rather the QB score a 35 than a 15, it doesn't preclude the scorer of the 15 from being better than the scorer of the 35. It's about increasing your odds of success on and off the field. The scorer of a 35 might have better odds of having a longer career because he was smarter. Things such as going into a hotel room with a young girl alone and opening yourself up to claims of rape, repeatedly because you weren't smart enough to learn the first time? Not driving drunk? Not flipping off the fans as you walk out of the stadium. Some times it's the small things that make a massive difference.

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                    Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

                    Since so many players pick and choose what they will and won't participate in at the combine, I wonder if anyone ever declines to take the Wonderlic?
                    Last edited by harrydog; -03-10-2010, 02:14 PM.

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                      Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

                      I really don't think the Wonderlic means much in the sense that there doesn't seem to be much correlation between Wonderlic score and pro success - Ryan Leaf (27) scored one point lower than Peyton Manning (28); Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, and Terry Bradshaw all scored a 15; Donovan McNabb a 14; Drew Henson a 42; Alex Smith scored a 40; Brian Griese a 39, Matt Leinart a 35; Steve McNair a 15, Brett Favre a 22, etc.

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                        Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

                        didnt Frank Gore score 5 on the Wonderlic?..obviously i know a RB and a QB is totally different..but i just imagine when they are goin` through the playbook..Gore is on the floor playing with building blocks..

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                          Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

                          Originally posted by Ramblin` Ram View Post
                          didnt Frank Gore score 5 on the Wonderlic?
                          I believe he scored a six, though I've read he has a learning disability.

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                            Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

                            It's either 6 or 7 that was classified as literate and could actually read the questions.

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                              Re: Bradfor Scores 36 on Wonderlic

                              what did Ben Roethlis"some girl's"berger score?

                              Somehow I think that could help put it in perspective as well...

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